Fist of all it is ok that you do not believe in God you can say evil against the Holy Spirit fine. But please don't braudcast this all over the
internet.

Excuse me? Christians broadcast their message over the internet all the time. There are loads of idiotic psuedoscientific sites devoted to intelligent design and creationism. Evangelizing online is a big business. Islamic terrorists use the web as a huge source of new recruits. Religions uses the web for it's sick twisted goals all the time. Who are you to tell us we can't broadcast this?

You say Christians only believe in Faith wrong (although it
is big part of it) but there is also LOTS of facts about the Bible,
Christ, God and the Holy Spirit. (book: "Case For Christ").

Excuse me. The bible says the Earth is 6000 years old. Radiocarbon dating disproves this. The bible says Jesus was created out of immaculate conception. Last time I checked, a haploid could not undergo embryogenesis. The bible (both OT and NT) say some disgusting, revolting things like that you must stone your children to death if they turn to another religion. As for the idea of God, that is a ridiculous man made assertion. I often point out the fallacy of the circular reasoning I hear Christians use, it goes like this:

1. I believe in God because it says so in the Bible

2. How do I know the Bible is true? Because it was written by God (actually man under "divine inspiration&quot

3. How do I know this is true? Because it says so in the Bible.

This is what passes for reasoning to a theological mind. There is no proof whatsoever that God exists because we created him, we built him a shield from sane criticism by saying he was beyond our understanding.

You haven't looked deep into the bible and found answers,
I have foudn that those who don't study the bible (which in the bible
says you should) don't know or understand what certain things mean. It is not about being scared abotu going to Hell or anything it is about knowing what is right seeing the facts that point to Christianity.

When I read the Bible, I saw some wonderful stories, and some good messages. But I used the word STORIES. These are just STORIES. The Bible is not a science text. I would rather trust a drunk with my money than the Bible. There are no facts that point to Christianity. There is no logic. In sum, Christians believe that a man was sent from heaven to Earth, was nailed to a cross after blaspheming and then arose ressurected three days later after being hidden in a cave.

Even if you do not believe why would you toy with the possiblility that it could possibly true and you have lost the chance to be redeemed?

Pascals wager is a pile of shit.

First of all, this argument merely leads one to feign belief in God. Even if one reasons that it is a better gamble, one cannot necessarily convince onself that God actually exists based on this wager. If God was indeed the violent, murderous, physcopath as described by the Holy Books, he would see through this feign and cast the gambling theist into hell.

Second of all, there are so many ridiculous human deities to choose from. Any of them can be slotted in place of God. Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, etc. And he/she/it/they probably wont be too happy for people to wager the existence of another God.

Third of all, you can't make up a concept through armchair raciocintation (which is basically how we created him) and then insist that people wager he exist because then you make up another story that this deity you just created is vengeful and will send you to hell.

I find it really sad and my hart goes out to those who are lost and need to be found again. I am not classing this as hate mail for I do not hate you, mind you I hate what you guys are doing. Thank you for hearing me out and let me know... I am not asking for a debate, but just let God help you understand.

Your heart may go out to me, but my brain goes to you. People like you really need a healthy dose of mental intelligence.

"I am not asking for a debate, but just let God
help you understand."
Hahahahaha!

I've been reading a-lot of these debates, discussions, what have you, and us atheists come off as a real angry, snippy bunch.

I just imagine my brother or my mom and I assume that I'm talking with someone who is probably a nice person, possibly even an intelligent person and I feel no need to talk down to them. I see too many of us writing in a way that comes across as compassionate and/or friendly. 

I didn't see this Christians post as intentionaly angry or offensive, and if some of his idea are offensive can't we explain this to him politely?

I love to see blunt, honest answers, but I also would love to see us behaving like the caring kind people that I know most of us are and not letting the frustration of dealing with that which we find offensive and irrational get the best of us.  

 And if you are talking to someone who is incredibly uninteligent, should they recieve your sympathy, your compassion or your anger?

KLJ, I think a lot of it is bluntness. If your coming on this site as a theist, your basically looking for a fight.

Anyway, we're only treating them with the respect they deserve. This person is using the same idiodic tactics like "Atheist need to shut up," you guys are just blind, Pascal's wager, etc. It gets really tiring.

If an intelligent theist comes on here and has a decent conversation (and there are a few) then we're a pretty nice bunch.

Hmm, maybe intelligent isn't the right word. Maybe thoughtful is a better one.

Yes, I don't like fighting, but it's rare to meet someone who doesn't get their panties in a wad when you say you don't believe in god. I know it sounds childish, but they started it. Whether we like it or not, in the US it's an emotionally charged thing.

I agree with you, KLJ, we should try to be as nice as possible. We already have this perception of being angry, and that needs to end. (But I think that perception is a projection.)

Niceness has its limits, and this person doesn't deserve any sympathy. Anyone telling me to shut up gets the treatment.

Thats cool Rage. I just hope we remember that it may be a redundant argument to us, but this person may not have been having this argument as long was we have, and I hope we'll give them the benefit of the doubt as far as where they're coming from; angry condemner/concerned and sincere.

And above all, God bless the slow people.

PS: Ha ha, I said "cool rage". That's what I should name my band.

I don't really like responding in these mail bags unless the people who wrote them themselves come in here and engage in dialogue.  
Yeah KLJ, I have to agree with you. Although I don't even blame some of the people who post on here all of the time. It gets frustrating seeing the same stereotypical arguments, the same straw man fallacies, over and over. I'm only wasting my breath over the ones that come here to learn. That's what I'm here for as well. To learn.
I have a friend who likes to use different tactics though. He has been debating people for years and now he likes to use street art to provoke thought. He thinks that you have to shock people, and be offensive with it, to provoke thought. He uses wheat paste to put up large posters on walls in areas with heavy traffic that show messed up images of war, or the world trade centers with the planes exploding, and at the bottom in huge letters they say "YOUR RELIGION IS DESTROYING ALL OF US."
This isn't something I do, and is irrelevant to debating theists, but I think the offensive approach is an interesting tactic sometimes.
Even he said to me that sometimes there is just nothing the facts can do for theists when they start claiming that the earth is 6,000 years old. Sometimes he feels that no further discussion is required and that offending them might piss them off, but they might think about it later on.
That's not the approach I take of course, but it's an interesting one. I think Sapient can do it very well sometimes too. He's one of my favorite debaters when it comes to this idea. You would have to listen to/read more of his arguments to understand what I'm talking about. Sapient isn't much of a dick at all. He just engages in friendly conversation, but when theists are blatantly irrational he's very good at pointing out their absurdity to the point where it's almost insulting, but rational enough to make them really think about it.

Poor poor guy, afriad of compitition. You are right, we dont have to broadcast it across the internet. But, here is the thing, WE CAN and fortunatly for us Thomas Jefferson and the founders wrote the constitution, and NOT YOU.

And why would God need a falible human to do his bidding for him? Tell daddy if he wants us, he knows where he can find us. 

Lmao! I love this. Let's see him do it then. I'm still waiting.

An apple cart that is not upset rots. Growth is gained not upon complacancy, but willigingess to think.