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Did Life Evolve in Ice?

Posted on: February 11, 2008 - 10:37pm
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Did Life Evolve in Ice?

 

I came across this very interesting story in Discover magazine. 

Did Life Evolve in Ice?

Funky properties of frozen water may have made life possible.

by Douglas Fox

 

 

 

 

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Posted on: February 11, 2008 - 10:45pm #1
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This would seem to be a

This would seem to be a competitor for the clay biogenesis model that Dawkins talks about in God Delusion.

I want one of our science heavyweights to give us some perspective on this story. Yellow? DG? BGH? (no, wait, this isn't physics...)

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Posted on: February 12, 2008 - 12:00am #2
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  Jake? 

 

Jake? 


Posted on: February 12, 2008 - 1:03am #3
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This is a great article to

This is a great article to back up my belief that the requirements for life is much broader than most people accept. I think as long as the right chemicals can move around and make contact with each other, it is only a matter of time before they form life.

I would see a problem if the claim was life formed inside of solid ice.. that would be a big difference considering the chemicals could no longer mingle. The article did not go into enough detail on the contents of the experiment, but it was not "ice" as the title suggests.

There are "ice worms" that live in ice so life inside ice is possible, but they most likely evolved to live in the ice and were not created there.


Posted on: February 12, 2008 - 2:34am #4
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Personally, I'd say there

Personally, I'd say there have been at LEAST a dozen better ideas than simply RNA clay biogenesis in the last few years - many of which incorporate ideas generated from clay biogenesis.

For example, liquid crystals:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071122151148.htm

and my new current favorite, zeolites:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071204102500.htm

The ice idea is not without merit, but I think you'll find the latter of my two links far more plausible.

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Posted on: February 14, 2008 - 3:52pm #5
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Yellow_Number_Five

Yellow_Number_Five wrote:
Personally, I'd say there have been at LEAST a dozen better ideas than simply RNA clay biogenesis in the last few years - many of which incorporate ideas generated from clay biogenesis. For example, liquid crystals: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071122151148.htm and my new current favorite, zeolites: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071204102500.htm The ice idea is not without merit, but I think you'll find the latter of my two links far more plausible.

You just like the second one because of the idea that life started as a sandwich Tongue out

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