For the awesome pompousness you exhibit, I do not feel sorry for the coming pwnage that will ensue.

Sadly, I agree.

Original poster, prepare to be pwn3d. 

My my, what a strawman. First of all....the theory of evolution does not claim that life comes from non-life. Evolution is gradual change through time by means of natural selection. It would be wise for you to perhaps be intellecutally honest or perhaps get educated on the subject matter before you spit out straw man arguments. Evolution is proved every day in every single biology laboratory, from molecular to organsimal to paleobiology. The evidence is larger than god's cock.

Abiogeneis is a theory. Pasteur confirmed that diseases are caused by germs. He did not disprove evolution.

I can prove to you right now that evolution is real. Simply by showing you the conservation of genes in various Apicomplexan parasites which have similar life cycles. Apicomplexan parasites are a family of parasites that contain the genus Plasmodium which is the genus of the parasite that causes Malaria. There are various species of Plasmodium and each of these species have specific hosts, some cause disease in lizards only, some in birds only, and some in humans and other non-human primates. All apicomplexans of various genuses share the apical complex, a group of organelles used for invasion.

Plasmodium sp. cause disease by invading red blood cells. The way they do this is by means of proteins on the parasite's cell surface that recognize and bind to surface antigens on red blood cells which initiates a set of events that ultimately results in the parasite's entry inside red blood cells. Then the parasite essentially turns the red blood cell into a factory for growth and division.

One of the species of Plasmodium, P. vivax invades only humans that have the Duffy antigen on their red blood cells. This is because the molecular invasion pathway uses a protein on the parasite surface that recognizes only the Duffy antigen on red blood cells (Duffy blood group, as you may or may not know, different people have various antigens on their cell surface, an easy example is: the A or B or O blood groups). The protein responsible for recognizing and binding to the Duffy blood group antigen has a specific series of amino acids that give the protein it's name: the Duffy binding ligand (DBL).

Now, OTHER species of malaria can invade red blood cells that lack the Duffy blood group antigen, which shows that they have other means of invasion. Another species of Plasmodium, P. falciparum does not contain the DBL gene but has genes for similar proteins (very similar to the DBL) which recognize and invade red blood cells. This is a product of evolution. All species of Plasmodium have a family of proteins that share homology with DBL. They have conserved genes that through evolution have slightly changed to take advantage of other blood group antigens but still share homology with DBL, showing common ancestry. This is due to natural selection from blood cells that assert pressure on the likely hood for these parasites to survive. If a blood cell is Duffy negative, then it exerts a selective pressure for that gene to change. The key is that they all share common descent.  And in turn the parasites exert pressure on humans to change their blood chemistry composition, hence, why certain areas in africa, the population lacks Duffy blood group on their red blood cell surfaces and are immune to Plasmodium vivax malaria, but NOT to P. falciparum or P. ovale malaria.  One would argue god's design her in making humans resistant to the P. vivax malaria, but then why would god allow disease from the other species of plasmodium?  hmmm...anyway.

Read about it more here:

Evolutionary relationships of conserved cysteine-rich motifs in adhesive molecules of malaria parasites.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=12082132&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_...

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/19/7/1128

Evolution requires 3 major ingredients: Time, mutations and selective pressures. Given the right kind of mutations, the selective pressure of red blood cells on the parasites, and time, species evolve. This, my friend, is FACT.

This is just a small piece of evidence...obviously there are plenty, more obvious examples...especially stemming from the fossil record, vestigial organs, and fossil genes, such as fossil genes in a species of fish that have evolved to not have red blood cells....yet still show remnants of the hemoglobin genes in their genome, proving yet again evolution through natural selection. You can read about that in the book titled "The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution

http://www2.wwnorton.com/catalog/fall06/006163.htm

The reason why I chose this small and specific example is because 1. I research malaria, and 2. to show you that there is evidence across the board and how this evidence manifests itself in a more specific environment. Most theists and the general public have no idea on how evolution works. THey use straw man arguments much like yourself..to convince themselves that evolution is wrong without giving so much of a single thought on trying to analyze actual evidence. What you guys do instead, is set up straw man arguments and pull some obscure experiment someone did 100 years ago and claim victory, while ignoring the insurmountable amount of evidence. The theory of evolution, NEVER claims abiogenesis. That is a whole other theory in and of itself. Get your facts straight.

Joeparker, you are on the verge of being banned for plagiarism and spamming. Your last thread on evolution got frozen. You have provided no evidence to substantiate your claims that evolution has been disproven. You have only cut and pasted theist sites.

Would you like to say something in your own words?

In lieu of your own words, would you like to provide a link to a peer reviewed journal that backs up your arrogant claims?

Please be aware that you are about one plagiarized post from being banned. Make your next post a good one.

I'm thinking joe isn't a native english speaker.

as he likes TO EXCLAIM LONG BITS OF SENTENCES IN GLORIOUS UPPERCAPS (to emphezise some mighty glory). And the TITLE IN ALL CAPS! and the singular where there should be plurals. 

 Hi, I'm joe I'M A GROUP OF CHRISTIAN!

so when someone challenges the   evolution theory or evolutionist is called plagaims??
 from:hambydammit
Regardless of who this troll is or is not, I'm of the opinion that being caught in plagiarism and continuing to plagiarize is a clear case of spamming the boards, which is a violation of the rules.

So, to any trolls who might be reading...

I'm checking for cut and paste jobs.

Joeparker, you are on the verge of being banned for plagiarism and spamming.
Please be aware that you are about one plagiarized post from being banned. Make your next post a good one.

from :deludedgod ,I'll play along with this copy-paste idiot.

from: american atheist,Yeah, it's probably the same person, we'll have him banned.

from :mrRage: Heh, it is. What's funny is as soon as you point out he's cut-n-pasting he goes into super troll mode.

Someone needs to ban his IP address.

from where does the energy and matter of the bigbang come from?

I thought you were here to discuss evolution. Why are you moving from biology to cosmology? You clearly don't know much about evolution if you can't work out the difference...

Anyway, here are some answers for you to completely ignore:

Where would the matter come from?

"While there would be no matter prior to the big bang, the big bang would release an enormous amount of energy in the form of light, which comes in discrete packets called photons. When photons have enough energy, they can spontaneously decay into a particle and an antiparticle. This is easily observed today, as gamma rays have enough energy to create measurable electron-antielectron pairs (the antielectron is usually called a positron). This would explain the existence of matter."

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=631

Ok then, where does the energy come from?

As for the source of the original energy? There are several theories:

a) Edward Tryon has put forth the idea of a vacuum fluctation, which is NOT a violation of physical law, as the original source. Alan Guth's Inflationary Model explains the rapid expansion of this energy. Source: The Inflationary Universe by Alan Guth. Tryon makes the point that the total sum of positive and negative energy in the universe may well be ZERO, indicating again, that no physical laws are violated by the big bang event. As Tryon writes: "Im my model, I assume that our present universe did appear out of nowhere 10 to the 10th power years ago. Contrary to the popular belief, such an event need not have violated any of the conventional laws of physics. Source: The Inflationary Universe by Alan Guth. Note: this version is akin to ex nihlio creation, except that it does NOT violate any laws of physics and does not require a 'miracle'.

b) Alex Vilenkin proposed, in contrast to the Hartle-Hawkings boundless model, an initial state of no dimensional nothingness that is overcome by vacuum tunneling to a dimensional state. As per his model, 'eternal nothingness' is an absolute impossibility.

See my audio file on this: http://www.candleinthedark.com/exnihilo.mp3

Taken from my own writing, here, where I discuss other origin theories besides ex nihilo (i.e. such as Multiverse/Brane theory):

http://www.rationalresponders.com/common_cosmological_misconceptions

I am no expert in physics.science or evolution  I am just joeparker  an interested outsider. Also, I am not saying that I actually believe this hypothesis (avoiding the incorrect use of the word "evolution theory" within the context of science). I am merely positing this as food for thought.
Time is a Pandora's Box that mankind is obsessed with. For some reason we just HAVE to know when this all started, where, why, and how.
 cheers joeparker

The quote "So nothing comes from nothing? where did God come from? maybe the same place all that matter did... besides remember back in 6th grade when you learned that matter cannot be CREATED or destroyed?" can be found here in a post with under the handle "Scott." joeparker add "stupid bible" before "God."

And guess what the title of the of page is? "Where did the matter dispersed by Big Bang come from?"

This just goes to show how much of a dumb ass joeparker is.

So he can't even steal a good argument? I bet he stole the other response as well. What a joke.

Good question. We're not sure yet, more data is required. 

If it's not yours QUOTE IT! Plagiarism is dishonest. If you did this in any school you'd be given an F. If a journalist did this they'd get fired. If you keep doing this you'll be banned.

Are you retarded? (If you actually are, sorry for calling you names.) You just completely ignore everything said to you.

My trigger finger is itchy.  Joeparker, would you like to talk about evolution?   Since you've avoided plagiarism, you've said virtually nothing.  Do you have anything to contribute?

What exactly are you smoking?

sorry dud I 'm not a smoker 

That or a thousand monkeys typing at a thousand typewriters.

Matt is not a dud. He's the real thing, dude.

Good. When he wasn't plagiarising he wasn't even coherent. Hopefully he's not back again with another name.

He had previously been banned under the name "anonymousmaster" 

I try not to debate creationists because no debate exists. Debates occur in evolutionary biology all the time but that is on evolutionary areas which people have different ideas about. Evolution is a fact and a theory which is complex and widespead but also simple and easy to understand.

1. Evolution is a theory the same way as "atomic theory", "the theory of gravity", "special and general relativity" etcs.

2. The only "controversy" is that morons don't believe it.

Thank you

-Steven

lol matt, the real question apparently should be "How many different IP bans can the same asshat earn?"  He's got quite a collection going.

Well, I'm sure he'll be back.  I think he was a kid probably middle school.  Oh well...good job looking out.