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As someone who has be mistaken for being a high-priestess or something silly, I guess. I tried to correct this. You do realize this is a costume. And Jean Chauvin 'avatar' looks like the cops were placing him under arrest (keep your hands where I can see them). What of it ? Not being in the occult myself; all I can do is echo the question.
.. This is a direct and simple question about are you really interested? Why is it that the simple questions are always the hardest to answer. Why again ? You are some sort of former occultist.
Remembering this in the “kill 'em with kindness” forum, so I have not asked for his Troll insignia badge, stating it's a Troll
Note this in the “kill 'em with kindness” forum. Everyone has to be nice here.
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Sorry, unrelated question here... there was a thread started regarding dark matter where you were commenting on it. I started to read it at work but got busy and now I can't find it again. Can you you give me the link to it if you can find it?
I am interested in some parts of the occult, I had a friend that claimed was a witch, but he never seemed interested in discussing it. He just wore a shit load of rings... otherwise pretty normal guy. Oh an he dressed in black a lot which did nothing for his 120lbs 5' 10" figure.
Maybe your take on it goes beyond what wikepedia has to offer.
"Don't seek these laws to understand. Only the mad can comprehend..." -- George Cosbuc
No skeletons in my closet. That was a stage that I went through on my way to atheism.
He has publicly stated an interest in the matter and I am willing to show him what is going on there.
As far as his avatar, I forget which movie it is from but it is a movie scene. Perhaps he shall choose to enlighten us on that matter.
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Are U asking about the practice, believes, or something else ?
The Goth look never really died yet. So, Could you be mistaken ? For all we know he may have been a first timer (externality and all). Not to be uncharitable but that is a vast topic, I "imagine" . You said, I am interested in some parts of the occult. So, Dont leave us hanging. To be Truthful, I am interested more in the original topic.
Dana, the goth thing has nothing to do with the occult. It is just a shock thing, like long hair in the 1960's. Get over that.
I sent Jean a PM requesting a comment, we shall see if he responds.
@Jean: If you really want to know, I am willing to help you out. However, it is not a simple thing. Tell me what that video means to you and we shall see what comes next.
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Just the basics, nothing too involved. I have a general grasp on the rituals and the 'karma' concept that they believe in, but I've never really took it to any extent. I just wanted an outline of it.
"Don't seek these laws to understand. Only the mad can comprehend..." -- George Cosbuc
There is no outline.
Is it true that Buckethead=Jordan Rudess?
State your case for or against.
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lol. No, it's a picture from a film about Luther. The guy who caused the reformation.
But... I thought Jean was a Calvinist, but Luther and Calvin had a number of opposing ideas (free will, par exemple). They only worked together because of a common enemy (the Pope).
weird.
On-topic: Randi is also interested in the occult. He is interested in how occult shit comes into existence and how you can eradicate it. It must be something similar with Jean...
Hi OP,
I've been studying the occult since the age of 15. I have an extensive library, and know the subject well. I am not interested in becoming OF the occult at all. This is absurd. I study in order to witness to these poor deceived people.
I know you're still dipped in occult hot chocolate. You said that you may attend Walpurgist night this April 30th.
The reason why I am kicked out, is becaues i'm honest, and shoot from the hip. I'm not into B.S.
Since the Occult is based on B.S. I'm banned. Most Occultist (serious ones) are esoteric and lie to their initiates. Since I blast them with their own thinking, the "higher ups" tend to get upset and bann me.
I've met many satanist by all types of traditions. I've also met many witches. I've met SRA victims via MPD/DID.
Im' a Christian. I will not be in the league of Satanism (Luciferianism - Michael W. Ford). God is source of knowing, thus why would I turn to his enemy and Molech in Missa Niger suggests. Why adhere to a loser.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
Hi Answers in Genesis,
Hey Answers in Genesis,
How high were you in the occult? Were your parents also in the occult making you a generational satanist/occultist? You ought to try me. I've studied it pretty intensively. I'm not talking about wannabe satanist LaVey. Most occultist that are known are kind of goof off.
There are rare exceptions. Aquino is absolutely an exception. In Portland, OR, here, there's a guy here with surgical horns attached to his head. He lives in a house of Urinals.
He says he's part of LaVey. But he may have been part of MI 6 along with Aquino. I've talked to him several times, and almost debated him. He backed out because I asked about his creditials.
So how "high" were you in the occult? Try me. Were you a gnostic satanist?
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
Yet you are an occult practitioner - you just claim a different power source.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
So much for "kill them with kindness".
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Truth is the best defense. I'm not being unkind. I'm just asking him to acknowledge he fits his definition.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
And I would not have expected any different. In any case, I fail to see why I would be motivated to make you change from vanilla to chocolate when the real goal is to get you to stop eating ice cream in the first place.
In any case, if you seek to affect a thing, you first need to understand what that thing is or you will fail automatically. Since you clearly do not know why you have been banned from several occult web sites, I am willing to work with you to show you what it is about.
Interesting. Tell me some titles and I will let you know if they are even any good as references.
Can you show me where I ever said that? Really, if you know anything about the occult, you would be aware that the highest holiday of the entire year is two days later.
Well, one thing that I think we can agree on is that it is based on BS. Although I don't think that you were banned for that so much as not being honest that your god is really Maat.
Well of course they do. When you know why they do that, you will have made an important insight into the matter.
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Hi Answers in Genesis,
There are basically two structures. The structure of anarchy (though controled), and the high elite. Picture a Triangle, I will start from the bottom up for sophisticated occultism:
Acolyte
Initiate
Member (at this level, the occult gives the members names)
Prophet
Priest
Dragon or Master (in some groups such as Manson's and the 4P: the Master is called the Grand Chingon
Interfacing men with the royal top elite bloodlines
The top Elite bloodlines (around 12 or 13).
Now, which level were you? If you do not recognize these levels, then please tell me the specific name of your level in the occult. OTO? Thelema. Werewolf Society. What?
And actually, the most important occult holiday is the FEAST OF THE BEAST that happens every 28 years. Thus, it happened last year 2010.
Have you ever been to the FEAST OF THE BEAST? Human Sacrifice is always done on this holiday. Alice Bailey talks about her experience at one of them indirectly.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
So this extensive library of the occult amounts to a bunch of the over priced paperbacks from christian book stores then. How nice.
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Minor aside- Walpurgisnacht is important to some Northern and Central Germanic Christian cultures. Thus, it is not unlike Yuletide.
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Theosophic esotericism is extremely moral. It's a lot about selfless service, unconditional love, harmlessness, responsibility, having a balanced life style and so on. Main activities seem to be doing charity work, meditating, preparing editions of writings and reading books that are extremely diffcult to read. Besides work and taking care of family, which AAB did like anyone else. Human sacrifices or any acts of worship or harm or hate just don't fit in there. Any such esotericist would probably just laugh off that idea. Would you please clarify?
Your descriptions seem to me like projecting stereotypes and fears of organized religion onto a broad sub-culture with highly diverse practices. Religious people often imagine, that their enemy is also religious, be it atheist or occultist.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Hi Luny,
Her book, the Exteralization of the Hierarchy. I'd have to get my copy to look it up. She also talks about the good forces that are running the U.N.
Her publisher buisness, Lucis Trust you do know Lucis is meant for Lucifer. Bailey was a prominent Luciferian. The Research Psychical Soceity was good in the 19th century, Theosophy was good in the 20th century, and now you can let it all hang out though the Club of Rome, or the Club 21 or Club 41, or p2 freemasonry, or the nine angles or Michael W. Ford. The theosophy soceity (break offs include Golden Dawn/OTO) to hide the satanists (I know they claim a technical difference between satanism and luciferarianism, I speak common here) and deny this to the lowely initiates.
Last years, Walpurgis was in Madison, WI, this year I hear it will be in Eugene, OR. I would like to go and pass out Christian tracts, though I may be killed.
The reason why theosophy like you say is good, and honorable, or whatever you said (they are also very evil) is because of their gnostic occult system of dualism. The serious occultists believe that there are two equal gods, that are equal, one good, one evil. So, they do "good" things to balance the spectrum with the bad things. Though they do bad things. To not understand this is to not know what you are talking about regarding the Occult and theosophy.
So, Answers in Genesis, are you going to tell me or not? You made this thread to help me, so how hight in the occult weer you? What was your level? Title? I'm assuming that you were via the cabala tree of life? What plane?
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
Yes, there are offshoots of Theosophy and some of them quite bad guys, like the I AM movement, but I doubt they'd be capable of working together.
Btw, what bad things are Theosophists doing? Kitten barbecue and eating babies like atheists? :P
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Hi Luny,
The feast of the beat was implied. I did not say she mentions sacrifice of humans, she'd be arrested. Go back and re read it. You took me out of context.
For the subtle implication, I will have to grab the book and review my notes.
Regarding the evil of theosophy, is that the forces (demons) which they worship in order to allow them to do magic. They are kind of a unitarian "church" of th occult. It's like a potluck of all kinds of traditions of eastern occult mysticism, and the west.
Regarding their view of Lucifer, yes, I am aware. I'm not sure how long you've been in theosophy and the occult, but you seem young, so you are obviously being lied to.
Go ask my bud Answers in Genesis, unless he changes his mind since he will never support a Christian.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
Each is entitled to obtaining his own evidence. My evidence points at Theosophy as the best explanation, it's not like anyone convinced me or needed to lie to me.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
It's a still from the movie "Luther" with Joseph Fiennes playing Martin Luther, he's the one in the picture. If you watch the movie, you'll notice the lack of cops arresting people.
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You mean Beltaine? Of course that isn't two days later, it's the very next **** day!
If it isn't Beltaine, would mind telling me what it is?
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Hi CIARIN,
You evidently have Chrisitan parents (or professing Christian parents). If so,why are you in the occult?
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.
Respectfully,
Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).
How did you deduce this, Jean? Or is this just your way of asking for a date?
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— George Carlin
But you are ok with your god setting up rigged bets with Satan using humans as guinea pigs.
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