if you goddamn atheists are so SMART...
Offline how do you explain the following miracles:
bob dylan
tom waits
van morrison
johnny cash
nick cave
i'm pretty sure they're all theists too! so just what makes you so much goddamn smarter than the man who wrote, "there ain't no devil, that's just god when he's drunk." THERE HAS TO BE A GOD IF HE GETS DRUNK!!! DUUUUHHHHHH!!!!!
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
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Maybe you'd give some links to those people and their aledged miracles,since I have no idea who they are.Instead of expecting us to do your homework.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
The burden of proof is on the one(you) making the extrondinary claim.
If God created man in his own image, explain the following:
Pee Wee Herman
You
Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen
Haha - thanks for that. It's good to have a sense of humour about the whole thing.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
For shame, Loc. You don't know who they are?
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Ok I've heard of Johnny Cash, but that's about it. Thought he had something to do with music but wasn't sure..judge me all you want
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
eh I don't mean it personally, sorry Loc
just kidding around.
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Ah I know.I'm not that sensitive
I think most of them were before my time so that's why I don't know them
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
they didn't do no miracles! they WAS the miracles! go online and check out they music n sich, because
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDD!!!!!
is sending you a miracle right now!
check out my new preachin tape, son:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/6243/
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
simple. his hand slipped.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
I never heard of Tom Waits or Nick Cave.
This is seriously a joke isn't it. You're not theist..you're just making fun of them right. In any case, I'm not going to go look them up. You're the one with the claim, you provide the evidence.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
My wife points out (apropos of nothing): Bob Dylan, like Jesus, was Jewish.
Thanks, man. I like every one of 'em. You have excellent taste in miracles.
"Yes, I seriously believe that consciousness is a product of a natural process. I find that the neuroscientists, psychologists, and philosophers who proceed from that premise are the ones who are actually making useful contributions to our understanding of the mind." - PZ Myers
i forgot warren zevon. also jewish. and van morrison's mother was a jehovah's witness.
Allegidly a devout Christian but in most countries would be considered a war crime.
why do i get the feeling "I am god as you" made another account so he could talk to us in a more... familiar language... and not screw up his persona?
I could be wrong, its just a gut feeling of similarity
What Would Kharn Do?
They're two of the greatest living songwriters in the world in my opinion. You should check them out.
Another male chauvinist!
The human men that you listed can be explained by meiosis and sexual reproduction, among other things.
But you left out some females, so I thought I would add to your list:
Joni Mitchell
Carly Simon
Carole King
Joan Baez
Dolly Parton
Beethoven and Mozart were atheists, by the way.
Matt, I'll try not to hold it against you...
i'm not a male chauvinist! i'm a huge fan of billie holiday, jane monheit, and the lovely sister rosetta tharpe. yes, she was a gospel singer, but goddamn what a voice, not to mention her guitar playing. check her out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaBNAXfHfQ
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
the easiest way would be to compare our IP addresses, i would think.
i am an american living in europe, married, and teach english. do i fit the mold so far?
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Where's Janis? WHERE'S JANIS? That list is woefully incomplete with Janis.
"Yes, I seriously believe that consciousness is a product of a natural process. I find that the neuroscientists, psychologists, and philosophers who proceed from that premise are the ones who are actually making useful contributions to our understanding of the mind." - PZ Myers
Im not sure... no ones really asked him... anything >.> hehehe
but there is an undeniable similairity... "infinite number of monkeys" clause?
What Would Kharn Do?
Hmmm !
Also Theists:
- Michael Jackson
- Jessica Simpson
- Clay Aiken
- Paris Hilton
- Scott Stapp
Atheists:
- John Lennon
- Rush
- REM
-Trent Reznor
- Pink Floyd
- Eddie Vedder
- Tool
- Bjork
- Dave Matthews
Now Compare........This is fun !
"Give me the satan-worhsipping family down the block.. the one w/ the good albums". Bill H.
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
Without a doubt - the best.
See, atheists and theists CAN agree on something, lol.
If god takes life he's an indian giver
Let's not forget that Creed is a theist group. Do we need any more evidence?
(By the way, I'm just throwing evidence out there. I'm not even sure what we're trying to prove. I just think Creed is one of the best arguments out there)
Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/
Books about atheism
Shania Twain -- Theist.
Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/
Books about atheism
Nix Dolly Parton and add Janis Joplin, and you've got a decent list.
When God get drunk does he see Jesus?
Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen
Dolly Parton should count for 2 miracles.
Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen
I think the argument was, some famous people were theists, hence god exists. How could we have been so blind!
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
actually the argument was god gets drunk, therefore there must be a god.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
when god gets drunk, he sees ME! i'm his dream. i'm an american dream.
now a word from my pastuh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16YGYVEuWRs&feature=related
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Everyone knows the devil has the best tunes not atheists or theists
i don't know about that. death metal blows ass.
i am a h.i.m. fan however.
I like naming artists and bands. I don't care whether they're religious or not. Here's some I like:
Muse (Atheist/ Conspiracy theorists)
Radiohead
Joni Mitchell
Laura Veirs
Jeff Buckley
Placebo
Feist
Sigur Ros
Mogwai
Nels Andrews
Amiina
Pulp
Morrissey/ Smiths
Editors
The Beatles
Nirvana
Jimi Hendrix
Explosions in the Sky
Me (Atheist)
So there are musical geniuses who are religious. So what? Most of my musical heroes are dicks anyway.
Atheist Books
Apparently you've never heard Satan play a fiddle before. Just visit attend a fiddling context next time you're in the southeast. Unfortunately Satan has a tendency to dip out at the last minute with a replacement. The people who sub in for him are always great though even if their music does lack soul.
jacob,
you're a musician? me too. what do you play? i play guitar, harmonica, banjo, autoharp, and bass. actually pretty much anything with strings i can figure out. i just joined a country band here in slovakia where i now live, of all things.
it's funny you mention morrisey. i love how lt. dangle on reno 911 periodically wears a morrisey t-shirt.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
...all of the above are accomplished female artists
to say the least, but too conventional for my twisted mind 
Musical females of my preference:
Bjork
Nina Hagen
Annie Preven ( Ednaswap )
Shirley Manson ( Garbage )
Linda Perry ( 4 Non Blondes )
Dolores Oriordon ( The Cranberries )
...and if I'm feeling really, really disconnected from reality
, then I'll listen to Laurie Anderson ( avant garde performance artist )
What? Where's your Kim Deal? Johnette Napolitano? Neko Case? And how about Louise Post? Or even Lucinda Williams, for crying out loud!
Laurie Anderson scares the livin' bejeezus out of me, though.
"Yes, I seriously believe that consciousness is a product of a natural process. I find that the neuroscientists, psychologists, and philosophers who proceed from that premise are the ones who are actually making useful contributions to our understanding of the mind." - PZ Myers
Really ?
They were the miracles ?
But lets back to topic, music and music talent have more common with mathematics then miracles. Do you have any proof for that a music talent is a miracle ? What about carpenter talent ? Programist talent ? Retoric talent ?
Give me a break...
Ecrasez l'infame!
Even Christian Death Metal like As I Lay Dying? What about Power Metal like Children of Bodom?
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
joan baez annoys the shit outta me. i think that's because i'm a huge fan and collector of early american music (blues, mountain, hillbilly, early jazz, celtic), mostly from the '20s and '30s, and she was one of the ones who turned that kind of music into poppy, politicized schmaltz. the same goes for pete seeger, the byrds, peter, paul and mary, etc. i can't stand any of them. dylan's early folk albums get on my nerves too. "blowin' in the wind" is one of my least favorite dylan songs.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Dont forget the Talent for looking good
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
Actually your list of female artists has sparked my interest ( although I am familiar with Napolitano / Concrete Blonde ) so now I'm off to YouTube and Dailymotion.com to browse around.
Incidentally, back in 1980 Laurie Anderson was a surprise guest at my art history class at North Texas State University. That was kind of neat.
touchy people on here. i thought one of the headings of this particular forum was "humor." do you people ALWAYS expect a battle?
i mean, i'm posting links to videos of crazy preachers. anybody here into irony? anybody?
p.s. yes, really.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
"Dolores Oriordon ( The Cranberries )"
DOLORES! fuckin A! as a man with a healthy dose of celtic blood (welsh), i am IN LOVE with dolores!
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Great list, Prozac, I concur.
LMFAO at Exc on Dolly's miracle[s].
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Yes, the ancient Celts were an awesome people. They conquered the city of Rome in 390 B.C., in 279 B.C. attacked and conquered the Greek city of Delphi and destroyed the Temple of Apollo, and kept the severed heads of their enemies as trophies....
....but were an artistic people, expert iron workers and considered females as the equal of men, ( eg, Boudica, their warrior queen who led them in rebellion against Rome .)
Yeah, the Celts kicked ass.
What about Kim Deal? Or Jenny Lewis & the Watson Twins? Or Kathleen Hanna (Bikini Kill, Le Tigre)? I'm almost surprised no one mentioned Beth Gibson from Portishead.
If god takes life he's an indian giver
I always thought Muse were religious for some reason. Who knew. Mogwai is another stellar band, as is Sigur Ros. Not a fan of Explosions in the Sky though I do like Mice Parade which is kind of in the same genre.
Liars is another 'best band ever', imo.
Oh, and The Roadside Graves - they even have a song called 'God touched Me and I didn't Like It' that they wrote for yours truly. lol
What the fuck is this thread about again?
If god takes life he's an indian giver