if you goddamn atheists are so SMART...
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bob dylan
tom waits
van morrison
johnny cash
nick cave
i'm pretty sure they're all theists too! so just what makes you so much goddamn smarter than the man who wrote, "there ain't no devil, that's just god when he's drunk." THERE HAS TO BE A GOD IF HE GETS DRUNK!!! DUUUUHHHHHH!!!!!
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
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You teach English, and yet you are yet to make a single post which doesn't rectally violate the most basic rules of the English language.
Organised religion is the ultimate form of blasphemy.
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I'm still coming to terms with the fact that BARRY MANILOW is an atheist.
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Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacraments of cannibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.
Isn't Children of Bodom classified as Melodic Death Metal? I can't think of any examples of Power Metal right now. Funny enought, most of my favorite bands are christian metal from when I started getting into it but was still xtain.There are a lot of xtian bands in the Metalcore and hardcore genres, which is mosly what I listen to.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
i'm sorry to offend your sensibilities, but like most people, i don't like to take my fucking work home.
by the way, the correct construction is you HAVE yet to make... also two yets practically on top of each other in the same sentence is horrible syntax.
no charge.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Have mercy on me pj for leaving them out, ( ha ha ) I don't work in a record store ya know !!!
let us close the debate. we all know the greatest of all time is jim nabors.
Jim Nabors, in whose presence I stand in awe !!!
Boudica didn't kick enough ass. She lost against the Romans. tsk, tsk.
"I am an atheist, thank God." -Oriana Fallaci
True and The Sacred Band of Thebes lost against King Philip of Macedon but still they fought to the last man against overwhelming odds which places them in a category deserving of honor and respect ( which they received, incidentally from King Philip himself, who was the very agent who destroyed them. )
Losing a battle doesn't mean that the losers were pussies.
Yeah, I play guitar (which I occasionally play with a violin bow), bass, keyboard, piano, sing, mandolin. I'm sure I could probably play other instruments if I put my mind to it. Just as you've started out in a band, I've got my first practice with my new band on Saturday. Really looking forward to it.
As for Celtic blood. I got loads of the stuff. I'm pretty much half Irish, although I'm the third generation of that side of the family (mum's side) to be born here in England, so I'm not sure if it counts. I don't bare a grudge against the Romans though, since my dad's side all look very mediterranean. Plus its more than 2,000 years ago, no one bares a grudge that long!
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Nope, I'm sorry. NO excuse. lol
If god takes life he's an indian giver
Ah come on if we are going to name bands
How about:
Anti-nowhere league
Sex Pistols
DropKick Murphy's
The Clash
The Dils
The Slits (all female band and one of the first in US punk history)
Dead Kennedy's
The Buzzcocks
The Damned
New York dolls
The Ramones
The Velvet underground
The Dead boys
Joy Division
The Smiths
Siouxsie and the Banshees
The Viletones
Teenage head
Oh i can go on and on about bands, especially punk bands
You forgot Crass. Oh, and Born Against. Refused was a pretty good punk band, definitely atheist (and communist). Sorry, I just can't help but hop on other people's lists, lol. I'm annoying like that.
I still have completely lost sight as to what this thread was about in the first place. Religious bands? Non-religious bands?
If god takes life he's an indian giver
But naming bands is alright
The Cure
Talking Heads
Blondie
Elvis Costello (yes he started in the new wave/punk era)
Iggy Pop
Richard Hell and the Voidiods
Generation X
The Misfits
Television
The Stranglers
and for the most part many of the early punk bands where atheists....well at least claimed it.
From the dead kennedy's I say listen to Religious Vomit
Dead Kennedys are always a good listen though I'm not really into punk rock anymore. I'm more into bands like Mogwai, Liars, Arcade Fire, etc.
If you want a seriously anti-Christ punk song (literally, not anti-christ as in Satan) definitely check out Crass. Here are the lyrics from Reality Asylum
I am no feeble Christ, not me
He hangs in glib delight upon his cross, upon his cross,
Above my body, lowly me
Christ forgive, forgive?
Holy He, He holy, He holy?
Shit He forgives, Forgive? Forgive?
I? I? Me? I? I vomit for you Jesu
Christy Christus
Puke upon your papal throne
Wrapped I am in the muddy cloud
Of hellish genocide
Petulant child
I have suffered for you
Where you have never known me
I too must die
Will you be shadowed in the arrogance of my death?
Your valley truth
What light pass those pious heights?
What passing bells for these in their trucks?
For you lord.
You are the flag-bearer of these nations
One against the other that die in the mud
No piety. No deity
Is that your forgiveness?
Saint. Martyr. Goat. Billy.
Forgive? Shit he forgives
He hangs upon his cross
In self-righteous judgment
Hangs in crucified delight
Nailed to the extend of His vision
His cross. His manhood. His violence. Guilt. Sin.
He would nail my body upon his cross
As if I might have waited for him in the garden
As if I might have perfumed His body
Washed those bloody feet
This woman that he seeks
Suicide visionary. Death reveller. Rake. Rapist.
Gravedigger. Earthmover. Lifefucker. Jesu.
You scooped the pits of Auschwitz
The soil of Treblinka is rich in your guilt
The sorrow of your tradition
Your stupid humility is the crown of thorn we all must wear.
For you. Ha. Master. Master of gore. Enigma. Stigma. Stigmata. Errata. Eraser.
The cross is the mast of our oppression.
You fly there, vain flag.
You carry it, wear it on your back, Lord. Your back.
Enola is your gaiety.
Suffer little children (to come unto me)
Suffer in that horror. Hirohorror. Hirrohiro. Hiroshimmer. Shimmerhiro.
Hiroshima. Hiroshima. Hiroshima. Hiroshima.
The bodies are your delight
The incandescent flame is the spirit of it
They come to you Jesu. To you
The nails are the only trinity
Hold them in your corpsey gracelessness
The image that I have had to suffer
These nails at my temple
The cross is the virgin body of womanhood
That you defile
In your guilt you turn your back
Nailed to that body
Lame-arse Jesus calls me sister
There are no words for my contempt
Every woman is a cross in filthy theology
He turns His back on me in His fear
His vain delight is that pain I bear
Alone He hangs. His choice. His choice
Alone. Alone. His voice. His voice
He shares nothing, this Christ
Sterile. Impotent. Fucklove prophet of death
He's the ultimate pornography
He. He. Hear us Jesus
You sigh alone in your cockfear
You lie alone in your cuntfear.
You cry alone in your womanfear.
You die alone in you manfear.
Alone Jesu, alone
In your cockfear. Cuntfear. Womanfear. Manfear.
Alone in your fear. Alone in your fear. Alone in your fear.
Your fear. Your fear. Your fear. Your fear. Your fear. Your fear. Your fear.
Warfare. Warfare. Warfare. Warfare. Warfare.
Jesus died for his own sins. Not mine.
If god takes life he's an indian giver
HOnestl,y I have no clue how people draw the lines between different subgenres of metal but, Ive always called it power rock simply beucase they use a keyboard. One metal band that I think fits the more technical definitions of Power Metal might be Blind Gaurdian.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
Me either to be honest. I just go with whatever the wiki says, and people think I'm clever when I say something about Symphonic Metal vs Gothic Doom. Generally I can tell Death Metal from Thrash, and Metalcore from Hardcore, but when people say Progressive Technical Grindcore, I'm lost.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
For some reason I think people describe Cannibal Corpse as such.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff
Hmm wiki says Brutal Death Metal. I've never listened to CC anyway. You know, metal's like religion. Hundreds of different sects and no one knows why or understands them.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
Hmmm. I haven't heard of Nick Cave, but I arranged one of Tom Waits' songs for a performance last year: "Shiver Me Timbers." I've got several different versions: one for piano and vocalist; one for flute, piano and vocalist (which I performed at the local UU Church on live local TV for all two of those who were watching); and one for piano, flute, oboe, bass guitar and vocalist. I know an oboe player, but she's the one who played flute for me and doesn't have two mouths...that I know of.
My version was decidedly un-Waits-like. I can't sing like Waits. To even attempt it, I'd have to get drunk off my ass...then my diabetes would land me on my ass.
(Said "ass" got really huge after my recent battle with illnesses.)
Tom Waits doesn't so much sing as "groan" his lyrics.
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as for groaning, i'd have to disagree with you as far as "shiver me timbers" goes, since it's from his second album, "the heart of saturday night," which along with his first, "closing time," i consider his two "singing albums." he was still pretty influenced by folk at that time and had a decent voice; a certain mellowness of the kind bob dylan achieved on "nashville skyline" often crept in, especially on "shiver me timbers." after that came his hardcore hipster jazz phase and his trademark growl, and then, beginning in the '80s with "swordfishtrombones," the experimental music he still does today. his voice has become like another instrument, and it changes on every track sometimes. his trademark now is, in the words of his own children, something like the cookie monster.
as for his songwriting, it only gets better and better, and he's one of those few artists who has never released a crap album. even dylan can't say that.
nick cave was one of the founders of an early '80s australian punk band called "the birthday party." after it broke up he put together his famous backup group, "the bad seeds." he's a very literary songwriter, and very dark and depressing. many goths sort of see him as a godfather figure (like neil young is to grunge) but most of those little shits are too stupid to have ever followed the trail that leads back to him (no offense, but goth, not even to mention emo, can piss off and die). he's a good songwriter, even great, but my jury is still out as to whether or not he's genius, like tom waits, warren zevon, bob dylan, van morrison, townes van zandt, mose allison, sam cooke, etc., etc.
btw, if nobody here is familiar with warren zevon, you NEED to check him out. his songwriting, singing, arranging, everything is pure gold. he wrote such beautiful gems as "werewolves in london," "poor poor pitiful me," "lawyers, guns and money," "roland the headless thompson gunner," "life'll kill ya," and "my shit's fucked up." i think "gorilla, you're a desperado" should be the evolutionist anthem. the bridge alone is worth it:
then the ape grew very depressed
went through transactional analysis
he plays racquetball and runs in the rain
but still he's shackled to a platinum chain
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
I think Tom Waits did a voice over as the devil.
Hmm wiki says Brutal Death Metal. I've never listened to CC anyway. You know, metal's like religion. Hundreds of different sects and no one knows why or understands them.
But Metal has contributed so much more than religion has I would say. I mean, anyone can be metal regardless on one's beleifs. Furthermore, it requires quite a bit of talent to be recogniszed as any sort of metal artist. Pirests and Pastors rrarely seem talented at anything other than talking a good game while playig a horrible one.
" Why does God always got such wacky shit to say? . . . When was the last time you heard somebody say 'look God told me to get a muffin and a cup tea and cool out man'?" - Dov Davidoff