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Mom claims Daughter possessed--stabs her

What is going on with Illinois and its religious population lately!

A woman was arrested and charged with the murder of her 6 year old daughter. Nelly Vazquez-Salazar, 25, at first claimed that her daughter 'attacked' her with a knife (umm..she is 6) forcing her to push her daughter up against the wall and stab her.

Nelly's actions : Stabs her daughter in the face, neck, chest and arms...slashes her neck and proceeds to stab through a picture with jesus, mary and joseph and leave it next to her daughter, tells the police her daughter was possessed.

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I really want to know, I mean it is eating me alive: Do people that commit violent crimes think that stating they are religious or that they were defending themselves against some 'evil' demon think it will lessen the severity of the punishment? Is this Nelly Vazquez-Salazar really that religious or using it to make her seem like a good person in the eyes of other 'religious' people?

 


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I can see your...DIRTY

I can see your...DIRTY PILLOWS!

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DamnDirtyApe wrote:I can see

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I can see your...DIRTY PILLOWS!

Couldn't resist.

LOL I had to double check which picture I had up there(no dirty pillows showing).... Anyway, a 'Carrie' reference in times like these always makes me smile Smiling

 

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 So it looks like the

 So it looks like the actual story is that the poor kid was sleepwalking and scared her half-awake mother so much that she lost it. Instead of calling an ambulance, she made up the demon bit. Wow. Thanks for the help, grandma (who put the idea into her head that the kid was possessed).

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This reminds me of a story

This reminds me of a story about a church I know.Apparently a demon possesed woman tried to attack the pastor. Frankly, if I'd been sitting there for a hour I would have tried to kill him too

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This is the sort of brain

This is the sort of brain dead quackery I am worried about.  I really need to finish that second part to the supernatural/haunting blog I was working on.  People are so quick to claim demon, as if that word signifies evil.  In fact that word means nothing of the sort.  People too ignorant to realize that are why we have murders like this occurring.  No, there is no devilish minion in your daughter, house or work place - just in your head.

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Ok first of all, why is

Ok first of all, why is everyone in my state suddenly going crazy? There must be something in the air, now that the weather just warmed up a week ago. Maybe the Holy Spirit?

 

Also, this was right on:

Rook_Hawkins wrote:

People are so quick to claim demon, as if that word signifies evil.  

.........

No, there is no devilish minion in your daughter, house or work place - just in your head.

If someone were to say that their invisible roommate Fred told them to kill their child, we'd put them in a mental institution.

But if someone says that Jesus told them to kill their child, they suddenly get special treatment.

Basically, the most special treatment this woman should get is a battery of psychological tests.

Plus, Rook's statement reminded me of a quote on fstdt. This woman's car alarm kept going off inappropriately, and she said something along the lines of, "I have no doubt that that car is possessed by demons." Really. Of all the prominent people Satan's minions could possess, they decided to go for a car. If that's not logical thinking, I don't know what is. That woman may want to get her car exorcised at the local auto repair shop.

 

Incidentally, whatever happened to those nice demons my Greek ancestors were so fond of? Why do they always have to get a bad reputation?


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Goddess, is that your pic? 

Goddess, is that your pic?  If it is did anybody ever tell you how remarkably similar you look to Topanga from Boy Meets World?

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greek goddess, your

  greek goddess, your picture is distracting as all get out.  Being a man is never ending lustful blessed horney torture .... Thanks ! Turn it up heat RRS girls, you're the best. GO Girl Power. Kelley wears lipstick !  .... So what the hell was the topic ???    Oh yeah , Demons .... an invention of the sick. Sad it is ..... kill the god of abe demon maker ......

   A picture forum of rrs girls would be nice .....  and a saving idea ....  a lure. "We are atheist girls .... too the rescue" !  

 

 

  

 


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Rook_Hawkins wrote:Goddess,

Rook_Hawkins wrote:

Goddess, is that your pic?  If it is did anybody ever tell you how remarkably similar you look to Topanga from Boy Meets World?

Topanga, from what I see on a quick google search, has lighter colored eyes, has much fuller cheeks, the mouth on Topanga is much more broad, topanga's jawline is stronger, nose is very different...

Eh, they are both very cute women.  So yeah, they are similar in that respect.  Sticking out tongue

Goddess, we need more pics to make a more comprehensive comparison please...

Full body shots would be a great help.  *raises one eyebrow in possible anticipation*

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Freakin Grandma

Yeah, Grandma put the thoughts of sleepwalking=demon possession into the woman's head and when something strange happened during her child's sleepwalking, she brutally murdered her because of a naive superstition planted in her head. What a terrible situation of yet another case where ignorance leads to violence.

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Truely frightening...

It scares the bejeebers out of me that in the 21st century, in the most technologically advance culture on the planet, that a statistically significant (up to 85%) portion of the population think that demons are REAL.

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Rook_Hawkins wrote:Goddess,

Rook_Hawkins wrote:

Goddess, is that your pic?  If it is did anybody ever tell you how remarkably similar you look to Topanga from Boy Meets World?

Yes, it is my pic, although nobody has ever drawn a comparison between me & Topanga. I'm flattered though, cuz I'm a huuuuge Boy Meets World fan! I used to watch the reruns every day on Disney Channel (back when I was young enough to watch Disney Channel heh). My brother & I still quote stuff from it all the time.


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I AM GOD AS YOU wrote: 

I AM GOD AS YOU wrote:

  greek goddess, your picture is distracting as all get out.  Being a man is never ending lustful blessed horney torture .... Thanks ! Turn it up heat RRS girls, you're the best. GO Girl Power. Kelley wears lipstick !  .... So what the hell was the topic ???    Oh yeah , Demons .... an invention of the sick. Sad it is ..... kill the god of abe demon maker ......

   A picture forum of rrs girls would be nice .....  and a saving idea ....  a lure. "We are atheist girls .... too the rescue" !    

I apologize if my pic detracts from intellectual discussion! Most of the pictures of me have other people in them, and I don't like to use those on sites like this because I don't think my friends would be thrilled to have their image associated with causes like this without their permission. I only have a few good pics of only me, and I was sick of seeing the others cuz I use them as avatars/profile pics on other sites. But if people want me to change my photo, that can certainly be arranged.

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Keep it! You are a cutie,

Keep it! You are a cutie, and flat-chested has never been a problem for me at all (I'm one of the few men that doesn't care about breasts.)

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Watcher wrote:Goddess, we

Watcher wrote:

Goddess, we need more pics to make a more comprehensive comparison please...

Full body shots would be a great help.  *raises one eyebrow in possible anticipation*

Idk how many full body pics I have lol, but I can dig some out if necessary.

Furthermore, is this even necessary? Weren't we talking about demon-possessed children? - I feel like I've derailed the topic enough, haha.

Oh well, now that the damage is done, I'm just gonna throw it out there - why do we have a sombrero smiley? Is it in case we ever start talking about illegal immigrants or something?


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Attractive women do not have

Attractive women do not have a right to be self conscious.  =P  That being said, this topic has been derailed, but I think when it comes down to it, we derail these sorts of topics on purpose.  There is definitely something to be said psychologically for making light out of events of such a travesty.  This woman was a detriment to our society, our species, and intelligent people everywhere.  Taking it upon ourselves to distract from that is definitely a mechanism we have evolved for the sake of survival.  And, discussing another survival instinct - being attracted to and by the opposite sex - is just a course our mind takes I suppose.  It could be worse...we could all be discussing Matt Shizzles videos where he has underwear on his head...  I like this alternative better than that one.

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LOL! You watched that one? I

LOL! You watched that one? I know I didn't post it here.


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   Greek Goddess,  you doll, don't change a thing. I did say "thanks" .... and all you RRS girls "inspirer" me ..... I love knowing you are .....     I have all your pics in a folder to adore ...... 


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MattShizzle wrote:LOL! You

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LOL! You watched that one? I know I didn't post it here.

You missed the thread where everyone was discussing that video?  Crap, that thread was what?  300 or so posts long?  What situation would this smiley be called for to represent? --->

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Watcher wrote:MattShizzle

Watcher wrote:

MattShizzle wrote:

LOL! You watched that one? I know I didn't post it here.

You missed the thread where everyone was discussing that video?  Crap, that thread was what?  300 or so posts long?  What situation would this smiley be called for to represent? --->

 

Where? I generally skip everything below News and activism except trollville and definitely skip kill em with kindness.

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Watcher wrote:  What

Watcher wrote:

  What situation would this smiley be called for to represent? --->

I'm guessing if we ever have a longbow vs crossbow debate.

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MattShizzle wrote:Where? I

MattShizzle wrote:

Where? I generally skip everything below News and activism except trollville and definitely skip kill em with kindness.

Just joking, Matt.

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My point of view:

Religious reasons for a murder = electric chair.


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Renee Obsidianwords wrote:I

Renee Obsidianwords wrote:

I really want to know, I mean it is eating me alive: Do people that commit violent crimes think that stating they are religious or that they were defending themselves against some 'evil' demon think it will lessen the severity of the punishment? Is this Nelly Vazquez-Salazar really that religious or using it to make her seem like a good person in the eyes of other 'religious' people?

 

The sad thing is, yes, committing a religiously motivated crime can get you a lighter sentence in some states. Or at least it used to. I'm no lawyer so I can't say if any states have those laws still on the books or not.


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Quote:Of all the prominent

Quote:
Of all the prominent people Satan's minions could possess, they decided to go for a car.

That's 'cuz Satan's my kind of evil overlord.

Transforming robot demon cars FTW. Try shoving that one in your Army of Heaven's pipe and smoking it, Jesus!

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