Truth, or something like it...

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Truth, or something like it...

 

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 Perhaps, but I’m cynical enough to think that the truth, and a goodly supply of tactical battlefield weapons with the trained personnel to use them might make you free. However, people don’t really want truth as such.Truth is often messy, and cold.The universe itself doesn’t care if you are good or bad, rich or poor, young or old, it will treat you with the same indifference, and you are resigned to the same fate regardless. This is truth. The lie is much more comfortable, much more pleasant and warm.The lie conforms to our own conceptions, our own prejudices, it enfolds us and makes us secure.The lie offers promises and demands only that we obey its precepts. And, if the lie becomes uncomfortable, if it no longer serves our needs, we can always shift to a new lie.The same can’t be said for truth, it remains, fixed and obstinate in the face of our desires and fears.You can’t shop around for new truth. It has been said, that a drunk is arguably happier than a sober man.This does not imply that it is better to be a drunk.Religion is the lie we drink in to make ourselves happy. Yes, the truth might make you free, but it will seldom make you happy.For that, you are on your own. LC >;-}>

 

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Why can't the truth make you

Why can't the truth make you happy? I guess it's not as romantically beautiful as "you can live and be happy for all eternity" and that kind of crap, but just because my life wasn't created by a big invisible man who supposedly loves me very much doesn't mean it isn't beautiful. If you can get past the fact that yes, you will one day cease to exist, you can see there's still a lot to enjoy while you do exist. The truth DOES set me free; more happy and free than people living under their dogmatic belief systems will ever be.

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Well said....period.

Well said....period.


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Tht is probably one of the

Tht is probably one of the most ironic verses ever.Coming from people who lie to themselves everyday. The christian claims to be set free by the truth. Yet so does every other theist.They can't all be right, but apparently christians have a monopoly o the truth. Probably why it's so hard to get them to even consider they could be wrong.

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

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This is getting redudnant. My patience with the unteachable[atheists] is limited.

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 Perhaps, but I’m cynical enough to think that the truth, and a goodly supply of tactical battlefield weapons with the trained personnel to use them might make you free.

Agreed. To believe that a nation can exist long enough to try to free its citizens without a military is to engage in fantasy. However, the cleverest thing that Geneva Convention forces do when engaging in war is to offer POWs food and reasonable shelter. People surrender very quickly in war when they realize that you're not joking - you'll give them a place to stay and a decent meal if they just put down the guns. It costs about the same to deliver food as it does ammo. The Nobel Peace Prize should go to someone who can enforce this military policy: "Want to fight? We'll blow you up from a mile away. Want to surrender? Have a hot meal, accomodation, and friendly treatment for a while."

The passage would hold more water if its context meant that with truth, one could be free of the fear that comes from superstition. Knowledge always crushes superstition, and the greatest freedom is freedom from fear. So knowledge should set you free. But the "truth" called up by that quote is filled with bondage to an entity that cannot be known, only feared. That's not freedom, so not only is the quote misleading, it's a huge lie.

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