It's garbage. Every single last piece. None of the 'new age' voodoo has proven to have any more effect than old-school voodoo (...I should say that with some caution, though, as some old school voodoo really DID work; using puffer fish to turn people into zombies, for example).

I suppose it does have the merit of being less invasive than orthodox religion, but I find that to be a weak excuse for allowing it to persist.

I especially hate it when they start using pseudoscience

The only thing I like about it is that it is an indication that they are turning away from organised religion. I think they realise their old religion is crap and are looking for something to fill the spot.

We were talking about dodgy business at work and a colleague said that karma would get them. I inquired when karma would kick in for us good folks and he admitted that it doesn't.

It's all crap.

Evolution is a slow process .... the tower of babel is still tall. Go communication science.

I'm a rockhound!  I'm so jealous!

I despise that hippy crap about metaphysical properties of rocks and minerals, with a FREAKING PASSION!

I practice yoga and I love it, but I know it's because it's exercise and exercise is good for the body.

I think a lot of it is bullshit, but the mind is a powerful thing. You can convince yourself you're healthy and speak positively to yourself and feel much better. The fact that the mind can, in some ways, help us feel better is the foundation for a lot of these "spiritual" movements. They just take it to a whole new level.

But it's way better than religious dogma...I'd rather hear people taking about meditation than Jesus.

Oh and karma? Complete lies.

Ahh Gezz KARMA: Like most all "religious/spiritual thinking" this stuff obviously gets way nuts.

  Sure add it all up, all religious ideas, and YES, you can't stamp "Truth" on it. All we can do is dissect it, which if done rationally, can be educational. Throwing all the religious books into the trash heap would be counter productive, as we would not have them to correct / dismantle / learn from. Without this evolutionary communication process we cannot improve as a whole connected world community.

 Karma obviously in it's totality is "false". We effecting past lives is fantasy.  But who would argue that we are NOT living the Karma of our ancestors? We are the Karma of the "Founding Fathers", religions, scientists, philosophers, etc.  We are the living Evolution of all that came before us. Our living Karma will effect the future.

This is why I often say, "changing the very definition of G-O-D is our number one world community goal". Recognizing the errors of religion are important to our learning process.

"Science leads in the study of gawed, Philosophy summarizes, Religion spins." ~ me

   RRS is living and creating Karma, of the positive and negative past. RRS is the positive reactor/transformer to the past Karma.  Ahh, something like that ....

   

 

 

I think it is just as dangerous to clear thinking as Creationism and Intelligent Design. It has absolutely no scientific merit, and yet even people with a college education buy into this shit. I mean, if I wanted to manipulate people for political ends, I'd be a so-called psychic (exploitation artist) too.

 .... )))) "well I'm a spiritual person regarding all that, what are you?"

Reply -  "Well I AM GOD, and both glad and sorry to hear that.  You could step up a notch ya know?"

    )))) "You are GOD ! ???"

Reply - Yep, 100%  .... wanna run some tests! ....

New Age is like a jungle of delusions, everyone finds there what feels good to them, and then they by time realize it's a delusion, so they go and find something else. People can search there for the greatest truth for decades. Superficial look shows you only a heap of garbage, to find something valuable you need insight. It's not like you read a few books and suddenly you're a spiritual guru in half a year. Of course, many will eventually find it, but it takes a lot of time and effort. I'm lucky that my parents pretty much managed it, so I already don't have to repeat the searching from the beginning and I can start where they managed to get.
Here, New Age isn't so rotten as in USA, separation in communistic regime made it something people valued (and smuggled here) and it's not yet all engulfed by commerce and scam.
New Age is another form of spirituality. Spirituality is innate to all human beings and everyone should find a form of spirituality which fits them. If it's for some New Age, so be it. Of course, here it's a headquarters of another form of spirituality, atheism, which has many good properties, but a tolerance isn't necessarily among them. 

My mother does this therapy professionally and it works. (yes, I was something like her lab rat when she was learning it, so I saw a few of my past lives as well) The amazing thing on it aren't just past visions of past lives, but feelings and emotions so strong, that it often makes people cry.

Because, past life regression is primarily for going to these past lives of people, when they died by so violent, bizarre or unpleasant death, that it has physical or mental effects on them even in this life. The regression helps to seal these feelings in that past life, so they don't get restimulated in this life.
It's usually about violent dying, it's not a pleasant kind of therapy at all, and people wants to have it finally done as soon as possible, and not to make things up by their own imagination.

Excuse me, but here you contradict astronomy. It's astronomical fact, that ecliptics of our solar system rotates and for a certain amount of time it's turned toward one of 12 constellations. The "new age" simply defines a period when that axis is turned toward the constellation of Aquarius. It's other end is at this time turned to Taurus.

The reason, why it's called Aquarius age and not Taurus age is not so scientific but based on historical traditions. In Taurus age there was cult of Egyptian bull Apis and a golden calf, in Aries age there was cult of God's sacrificial lamb, in Pisces age there was Christianic cult with a symbol of fish, and now it's gonna be a free movement having a symbol of a man, who pours a water from a jug, symbolizing some blessings or a water of life, given for free to everyone, or something like that. This is a history.

 

Want to buy some crystals?

 

Exactly. I start to get annoyed when someone tells me I'm doing anything but stretching, though. Oh yeah, stretching and breathing. Y'know, because you can just stop breathing and it'll be fine. Sigh.

 

The finger second from my thumb on my left hand (which also shares elements with fingers around it) is measurable when extended. Feel free to draw any cosmic conclusion you like from my extending it.

That breathing relaxation technique never worked for me - it always ended up pissing me off because of it's being utter mumbo-jumbo.

Like others before me I have decided not to waste time communicating with you Luminom. You are dishonest with yourself and therefore dishonest with everyone else. You espouse delusional theory and have the cheek to introduce it repeatedly in an area of the site that is supposedly reserved for rationality. That is disrespectful to the other site users, and further proof of your dishonesty and disrespect should you choose to defend it.

 

At this point you should take the hint, apologise, and shut up. But then Im not a site administrator, and nor am I a grass. I will leave it up to you to recognise the right action to take, though I seriously doubt that you would even begin to know how to recognise it, let alone take it.

I think I'm honest with myself. But the more I'm honest to others, the more some of them accuses me of dishonesty. 
I'm just a mirror to you. You think judge me, but you judge only a reflection of your beliefs and problems. You can not really see me, until you see only things you have a problem with. Don't blame the mirror, if you don't like what you see in it.
I seem delusional to those, who think that their way of thinking is the only right one.
It's ancient model of behavior, the fallacy of being (among) the most righteous. I can't stop showing a mirror to anyone, who repeats the same mistake as generations before him. Sun rotates around Earth. There are no stones in the sky. All what could be invented, was already invented. Luminon is deluded. (yeah, there really is 'n' letter in the end of my nickname) This is not really about me, this is about your problems you see exposed in reflection on me. I of course have my problems, but you didn't get to them yet,  so far, you see only your own.
What you should really look for, is an answer for question, what qualities can I teach you. I'm not your enemy, or anyone's enemy, I'm your opportunity to improve your character. There are people who doesn't already or yet need such lesson, there are no their issues I could reflect at this moment, so we get along. You're just not one of them.
Conflict is a way to resolve differences and estabilish a harmony, not to bestow trollship, theismship or ban.

Of course, there is also something I should learn from it, and I'd like to find out what it is. The only hint I see now is the ancient fight between rigid dogma and revolutionary development.
To my best knowledge, I'm honest with everything I perceive by my senses and extrasensorically. Thinking and perceiving within norms of majority doesn't lead to a development. Standards aren't pushed by themselves, but by a people who are outside of them. Stepping out of norms like I do here requires a courage. You think I don't know, how alien is my worldview to you, or to anyone who never ever saw anything beyond norms? You're right, but I'm trying to understand it.
What are you afraid of, that different people are dangerous, so you must make everyone like you, under control of one way of thinking? I'm much more afraid of stagnation, which would that bring. 
What if my lesson is to stop being a scapegoat for crowd, to show even more courage than I already did and tell YOU to shut the fuck up and go f...find yourself?


So put on this LP you like to listen to that much, my friend There are lessons, which teaches us other people, and there are lessons taught to whole humanity by the ages themselves.
Last lesson was about finding our individuality and differences. We indeed found them, but we now ended with a world shattered to dualities and separation. We've got now a merciful God, cruel Satan, intelligent but dehumanized science, mystic but cloud-minded mysticism. Our politics offers us freedom, but can't guarantee justice, others promises justice, but tells us to forget about freedom.
This sense of bipolarity now became too old.
A new lesson is building up among us, and it's power is increasing every day. It's a lesson, when we will use our individualities for cooperation in brotherhood. It's a great lesson indeed and it will take about as long as the last one, two millenia.
Dogma shows up, when the old fights against the new. It was always like that, but now is the time, when the new is about equally powerful as the old. It creates an impression of stalemate, of a situation which can't be resolved and this crisis gets the world maybe on the edge of destruction.
Let's realize, that the old values of separation and competition can't go on anymore, they ruled for 2000 years! Trying to hold them is putting a great strain on everyone. Let's rather support the new ways of unity in diversity, so this diffcult time of changes will pass more quickly.

 

Nordmann and Luminon, I sense alot of unfinished business.

Like everybody else, I think it's all bullshit. My mother is into all this feng shui shit. No matter what I say, she still won't believe me when I tell her that no matter how she orients her furniture in the room, it has no effect on any "energies". It's the same kinda bullshit as horoscopes. Giant balls of dirt floating out in space billions of miles away have no effect on people's day to day lives.... gah!

Yeah, I got a friend who had her dining/living rooms feng shuied. Bleccccchhh.

And she loves horrorscopes too

Goofy, unsubstantiated crapola to me.

With all respect to you and your friends, do they have an evidence to believe that? I mean anything, personal proof or reason, own experience, anything besides just following a text in book.
I surely know Zecharia Sitchin, and some his remarks to Biblic texts are interesting (specially the true version of legend about Sodom and Gomorah) but the rest of this bullshit about reptilians and a shift to fourth dimension, this doesn't give a sense.
What the hell is fourth dimension? Time? Sure, we move in time. As for shape-shifting reptilian aliens, I really dislike them. I once had read a certain document about them and it was so scary, that I regretted for the first time that I learned English language. The best thing I can do to return that strike, is to joyfully ignore them, and be very skepic about their existence. If they would abduct me, they're supposed to feed on on fear, so I'll radiate an aura of unconditional love, that should give them a serious diarrhoea

The most reliable source I know about, was asked about Nibiru. He said only:
It was diverted.
Hooray, that's another problem we don't have to worry about. You can tell it to your friends.

 

 

Our difference in opinion is interesting: what I got from reading The End of Faith was that Harris saw various spiritual practices (meditation, specifically) as valuable tools to illuminate the concept of human consciousness, but that he placed absolutely no weight on any of the spiritual/mystical beliefs associated with those practices.  In that, I agree with him.  Yes, mediation, etc., can make your brain do some really bitchin' tricks, but that doesn't imply the soul/karma/nirvana exists.  He wants to research what consciousness is and how it works with these tools, along with purely materialistic approaches like MRIs and EEGs.

I still see "spirituality" as the refuge of people who reject the concept of gods, but don't want to lose the comfort they find in believing there is an "unseen reality".  They don't like where the chain of logic that lead them to reject religion (usually the one of their parents) leads, so they simply stop following it to avoid the hard work of becoming consistent.

I had a couple acquaintances who were into The Secret and loved What the Bleep Do We Know?.  I studiously avoided talking about this with them because I felt it wouldn't have been much of a conversation; they would have just chalked up my inability to accept it as being "blocked" or something.

One of my favourite authors made a rather excellent observation once: "It's amazing what people will do for money, but not nearly so amazing as what they'll do for free."  It always amuses me when people believe demonstrably crazy things of their own volition.

 It's just another way to easily separate morons form their money... a new spin on the same old invisible bullshit. Fuck, I am in the wrong racket.

Btw, are such things, you know, not necessarily theistic, but New-Ageish, discussed in RRS radio shows? If yes, can you please mention in which and what approximately? Just a professional interest, nothing more All of this movement needs a discerning anyway, the question is, if it's better from within or from the outside of it.

It's an easy way to make money, and some of the artwork is pretty, but substance wise, it has none.

Renee , oh yeah .... the million dollar offer still stands when I get the money !

All tickles and giggles for our Renee .... did ya know she is wild ! 

                      It's in the family tree !

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