God exists: yet another proof

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God exists: yet another proof

Hello all,

I recently stumbled upon this website: SOURCE. It has a few HUNDRED proofs of God's existence. I haven't really looked at all of them yet but the first few seem okay. Give it a look, it might make you think. Anyway, I figure that the following argument should give you pause about being an atheist.

1. This website has many arguments for God.

2. An atheist cannot say with 100% certainty that any empirical statement is false.

3. Many of these arguments use nothing but empirical premises.

4. Therefore, many of these arguments have a nonzero probability of being true.

5. If these arguments are true, God exists.

6. Therefore, there is a nonzero probability that God exists.

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~Presuppositionalist

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JillSwift wrote:And so the

JillSwift wrote:

And so the agnostic-atheists shrug and say "We knew that."

So if the chances of there being a god is 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001:1, what's the point of beliving? Or is this some variation on Pascal's wager?

Pascal's wager is a skunk dressed up in a tuxedo based on sappy sweat emotional appeal. The problem is, no matter how much a theist re-wraps the box, it is still empty. I have to give them credit though, they can be creative in saying, "Pay no attention to the myth behind the curtain."

"A pile of crap, by any other name, would still smell as shitty"

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I stand corrected, a bit, on

I stand corrected, a bit, on my last post.  The value of Presup's post is that it gives us an opportunity to mock people.  I am strongly in favor of mocking supernaturalists.

 

What is crazy is that many of these arguments are often used by supernaturalists (esp. religionists) in complete sincerity.

For example, this one:

 

MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

 

I could find you at least 10 people on 3 or 4 forums who not only used this, but used it as the major part of their entire argument and reduced their entire god-belief to it.

 

I know a guy who reduced his entire belief in Jesus to a night he went out for another binge-drinking fest, was driving home and narrowly escaped getting in a head-on collision with a car driving the wrong way with its lights off. Later, he found out that the driver was wasted and minutes later slammed into a car with a family in it, killing everyone.

 

This selfish fuck thinks it was a sign from God - and Jesus, no less - that he was spared.  Forget the fact that he should have been the one killed if a Just God existed. He was a wasteoid. A burned out junkie with no value to the world and the family should have lived.  Instead, the world is given another stupid Xian fucktard.  Praise Jesus!

 

(I can follow this up by the actual post)

 

Have I mentioned that I can't stand these people and feel they should be ruthlessly mocked?

Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly.
Isaac Asimov


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Yes Yes daedalus, that it

Yes Yes daedalus, that it why I try to remember to thank them idol worshipers for posting, because they serve an important pupose in showing others how silly and awful religion is. Plus they also make fun "chew toys" as some say. Study (love) the enemy, someone once wrote, and many others, in different words.


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daedalus wrote:Why do we

daedalus wrote:

Why do we give attention-seekers like Presup any of our time?  He is obviously just saying stupid things to get a response because he doesn't have any friends.  He is obviously a retard, a child or both.

 

Nah, He's just a poe.

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