Boobies?

The only part I found lame was the self-righteousness of "our struggle". There aren't any trumpets blaring in this strictly mental conflict, we're just talking here. And we talk shit a lot of the time. It's the internet - that's just the nature of the beast. If you don't want to be inundated with tits, stay off the internet.

Oh, and the fact that atheists are more attractive is merely a coincidence. We can't help it. Look in the mirror and just admit it.

I think you're right - to be perfectly correct, it would have been "happy brainwashed puritanical morality".

Uh, obviously. Haven't you heard any of the AWESOME Christian rap?

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Oh, I'm gagging after writing that. I'm going to need a drink of water.

It's not a sex symbol culture they need to buy into.  They need to accept that humans should utilize the freedom to do what they choose with their bodies.  The person admitted themselves that it's religious people they are succumbing to.  Stating that it's another thing for Christians to say something negative about.  Instead of bowing down to the Christian that says "you atheists are evil because Kelly was utilizing her beauty to her advantage" the atheist can take the time to explain why humans have different evolutionary advantages, how they work, what they are, and why they should and do get used.  The Christian that is bitching has the evolutionary advantage of speech, but have you ever heard an atheist say I don't like you Mr. Christian because it's clear you're just one of them... one of those people who utilizes your vocal chords to your advantage?  The notion that sexuality is some sort of secretive advantage that shouldn't be utilized in the same vein as muscular and mental advantages spawns from religion.  And the notion that you should change who you are or who you want to be because of said religion, is succumbing to the religious powers. 

We've only got one life to live, and I'll be damned if this life I live (or anyone I care about) will be governed solely on what religious people think of me.  Giving in to that, worrying about what they think of how you act is pathetic.  The bearer of such a mentality has been brainwashed by religion that such sexuality is wrong.  That the weight of your philosophical arguments diminishes when you exude such sexuality.  Such logic needs to be challenged at every turn, not given in to.  Those who would give in to such logic, rather than address it don't deserve to consider themselves part of "The Rational Response Squad."  It is not rational to succumb to 1,700 year old archaic and illogical beliefs, those who do are likely brainwashed... even as atheists.

 

I think America (in general) has a problem with the human body and sex. If you don't like it, "turn the channel". I'm glad you deleted that persons account.

Hmmmm, a ton of tits, now that would be interesting...

 

I would agree with the emailer if she was constantly flashing and/or if she had nothing worthwhile to say, but neither is obviously the case. If someone doesn't like it don't look.

I think when the topic of tits arises, one should always err on the side of more rather than less. Unfortunately, as far as I have seen, there is a serious lack of bare breasted cuties here, but since this is site related to rationality, atheism, and all things skeptical....the small doses of boobage are a breath of fresh air to me.

Give me boobs, or give me death!

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What was so rational about that response? It sure looked to me to be an emotional response based on puritanical sexuality taboo.

 

From where I sit* an aversion to sexuality has a rational explanation, but it isn't an inherently rational position.  That is to say, there are tons of legitimate reasons why a person would (forgive me) get their panties in a bunch about seeing a good looking girl showing off her body.  I'm going to list a bunch of them, and check this out... I'm making the disclaimer right now that none of these reasons are universal -- that is, not everyone who is opposed to boobs is opposed to them for some or all of these reasons -- and someone later in this thread is going to get mad about me lumping them into a generalization.  They're going to say, "That's not why I don't like boobs.  My reason is blah blah blah, and my reason is a really good one."  (Nevermind that it's probably not going to be scientifically accurate, but whatever...) Anyway, here goes:

* People who don't have a good enough body to sell sometimes feel cheated or disadvantaged, and want a more level playing field

* Sexual abuse often sours people's views on sexuality, particularly when they have been told the abuse was their own fault for being "slutty."

* Early religious indoctrination that sex is dirty is very, very, very difficult to shake in adulthood.  Many people who ditch the religion hold onto the religious views of sex.

* Regardless of religious indoctrination, America has an almost bipolar view of sex.  It's everywhere, and yet it's constantly being suppressed.  Should we be surprised when people have mixed emotions about it as adults?  Our cultural indoctrination is as strong as our religious indoctrination as children.

* Many people think that exposure to sex is harmful to children.  (This has never been demonstrated scientifically, and the opposite actually appears to be true, but nevermind the facts...)  The instinct to protect the children causes an exaggerated response to displays of sexuality.

* The culture of enforced strict monogamy perpetuates the myth that lusting after someone other than your mate is always bad.  Many people (women especially) feel threatened when their man gets to look at someone better looking than them in a socially approved way.  This can lead to the view that sexual advertising is bad.

* Many people are more afraid of STDs than the facts warrant, and are convinced that overt displays of sexuality are turning us all into horny bunnies, happily humping anything that passes by.  This could lead to the view that sexual advertising is bad.

* Many people (especially women) think of sexual advertising as being exploitive.  Since some women are exploited sexually, they conclude that any use of women's sexuality is exploitive.

* Some people think that a man's opinion of a woman goes down if he thinks of her as "a piece of meat."

The list could go on and on.  The fact is, each of these beliefs forms a solid foundation for a justified belief that sex shouldn't be used so much in advertising.  We need to realize that belief can be justified without being true.  In other words, regardless of whether any of these things are actually true (or true within the correct context), if someone believes them to be true, their belief that sexual advertising is bad is a justified belief.  If these things turn out to be false, or only partially true, we can say that they lead to a justified and untrue belief.

 

* I should note that where I sit is in a chair occupied by someone very learned in the science of human sexuality.

Hey thrutraffic, you know Jill Swift has breasts and she responded to you?  OH NOES!

Anyway, you said you didn't want to be part of this place, and frankly I wouldn't want to stand alongside of you in any battle against irrationality.  In fact, you said in email... "just fucking go away!" and "I've linked your videos to my porn favorites for those special times when I'm alone."  (your deeper issues show themselves here)

... OHHHHHH I guess you were alone!  Stop jerking off to my girl if you're gonna bitch about it.

 

 

 

Prozac, those black pasty bits make that look rather gross.

Yes, yes. But I was talking specifically of the response. He may feel any of the various things you listed or combinations thereof, but the primary failing is in the assumption that his sexual taboo standards trumped everyone else's - that is to say, he placed the onus on his decision to leave on the RRS where the fact is it is his responsibility through and through.

Disagreement is one thing. Indignation is another.

Yeah, every guy likes to think that. (Sorry, just teasin'.)

I'm just here for Kelly's milkshake.

 

Allegedly it brings all the boys to the yard. She has a graph, it must be true.

 

 

 

Word bitchez!

         Ha, I thought I recognized that band.  I've got their CD "Three Sides to Every Story".   Extreme is good band....especially like their song Warheads.

Rofl. Prudes limit themselves so much it astounds me.