Most actual Satanists (ie members of the Church of Satan or Levayan Satanists) don't actually believe in Satan. They are actually atheists who just do it for the lulz or to piss off Christards.

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Ditto on the Lavey Satanists. 

I'd say 90% or more of the Satanists out there use Satan as a metaphor for something that is in opposition to the bible.  They don't actually believe a Satan exists or worship Satan, he's simply a figure to represent their anti-Jesus stance. 

Here are the principles from wikipedia...

The Nine Satanic Statements

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you, unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them. 

The Nine Satanic Sins

1. Stupidity — The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2. Pretentiousness — Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. This is on equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3. Solipsism — Projecting your reactions, responses, and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are can be very dangerous for Satanists. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us, and requires constant vigilance, lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As it has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian standpoint) we are far from that point.
4. Self-deceit — It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements”, but deserves to be repeated here. It is another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred vows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!
5. Herd Conformity — That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely, instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.
6. Lack of perspective — Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints: Know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies — Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8. Counterproductive Pride — That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: If it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it.
9. Lack of Aesthetics — This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time, so they are discouraged in a consumer society; but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing: It’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

1. Lack of Aesthetics — This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time, so they are discouraged in a consumer society; but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing: It’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

that's been covered.

this is actually really interesting... i had no idea - when i was growing up our pastor used to tell us atheists were satanists - i guess there's some truth behind that.  although, i always thought he meant that either you worshiped god or the devil but not believing at all was not an option.

ya

Ahhh, I am a fan of killing god of abe by any peaceful means. All battle plans welcomed .... Shout at the real devil , that god of abe , go all  Motley Crue  ' ssssss 

Satan doesn't exist. Neither does God.

Is english your first language?

That begs the question: are you an eighth grader like your profile states? If so, that makes me sad to think English isn't being taught.

i dohave english in school, im 13 years old, and im very mature for my age, please dont judge me until you know me thanks,(((( KAY CAT.))))

No one is judging your personality, and no one is claiming you can't improve your communications skills. No need to be angry or hurt about the truth.

ALSO, kay cat,

They do teach english/grammar in my school, It doesnt matter how im saying these things, its what the meaning of my opinions are resulting.

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Now I'm not a native English speaker myself, so my impression of Amoron's linguistic cohension may be a bit off, but I have worked extensively with children her age, and to be honest I think she comes across as a fairly normal 13 year old. Both in her spelling, her cohesion, and the things she's posting about.

I think we are just taken a little aback because the average age of the posters here is closer to my age (27).

Amoron is the first 13 year old I've seen here at least.

Give her a break, she's young.

And to Amoron:

Welcome to the forums. Good to have you here. I think you should take a moment to consider, before starting more posts, because while I think it's perfectly allright that you have alot of things on your mind, you are currently flooding the boards with alot of long threads that aren't really saying much.

This is a message board, and not a chatroom, and small, whimsical threads, where you often answer just: "ya" in response will quickly clog up the boards.

There are chatrooms here on RRS as well that you can visit if you just wanna make smalltalk, and if you post here, you should probably take a little more time with the posts you make, and give them a little more thought.

Just for reference, I usually spend at least ten minutes composing something, when I write on these boards.

It gives me time to consider things like:

 - Have I spelled everything more or less correctly, and re-read what I've written, so I am fairly certain people will understand what I'm saying?

 - Is what I'm saying even relevant to the discussion, or should I simply leave it out, or wait for another discussion to pop up, where these thoughts will be more relevant?

Just take this into consideration. Trust me, you'll learn to be a good poster, with a little patience.

Thanks for considering this, and again, welcome to the forums.

Umm, I AM in a heap of trouble! ....     

Glad that you are here, "Just the way you are" ...... clever Amoron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAw_gJ6wS44&feature=related

I don't think it is so much that English is not being taught. As 13 year old, her social circle are going to be people her age and she is likely conditioned by talking to them over text messages and instant messengers, which is likely the extent of her writing experience outside of writing things for class.

Amoron, we understand and welcome you to our community but be mindful that your words are your weapons on a discussion forum and you should be mindful of the care you put into them.

Basically, this is a forum, not a text message. As a teen myself, I sometimes wonder what happened to the English language as my counterparts 'tlk lyk dis lol bt dnt jdge me jst coz i haz da spelin of a drnk idot.'

Don't post one word replies,and if you do make sure they're spelt right.

Other than that, Welcome.

What the hell is your definition of LOSE?...

Ruler of Hell... check

Gatherer of Infinitely Damned Souls... check

Overlord of Horrors Beyond Reckoning... check

Come rapture, soon to be Ruler of the Mortal Plane...

You know the 1 thing Satan doesnt get in time? Heaven... so tell me, who loses again?

Satan: I HAZ ALL JOOR COOKIES!!!

God: Fine... but im keeping this banana

Amoron,

You are not a moron.  You can see that there are things going on in your life that are fucked up.  Right now, I am less concerned with you're belief than I am in your happiness.

You seem pretty unhappy to me.  I want you to know that you deserve happiness.  Not because of who you worship, but because of who you ARE.  You are a human being.  You are the most complex and amazing thing in the universe.  You are conscious and aware, and that's the best trick the universe has been able to do in 15 billion years!

I know your life sucks right now, but I want you to keep a few things in mind:

1)  All things in this universe are temporary.  Even the stars and galaxies.  You can count on the fact that you problems and pain are also temporary.

2)  You are deserving of love.  This sounds like a nice platitude, but let's get serious here - human being have evolved love as a way of bonding with each other.  If you are self-aware enough to be asking the questions you are asking, then you are self-aware enough to realize that you are SURROUNDED by people who want to love you, even if you don't feel it right now.

3)  Satan is a fantasy, but he is a negative fantasy.  If your life is so hard, do yourself the favor of staying away from the negative fantasies.  I know that if you have been taught to believe in magical beings, that it is easy to attribute your pain to them, but the truth is that all our lives have pain in them.  Pain has a purpose:  It's there to tell us that something is wrong and that it's time to get to work figuring out what it is.

4)  Share your pain with the people around you!  You will be surprised.  People want to hear your woes!  Showing people how you are hurt will make them feel closer to you and more protective and loving besides.  But be careful.  You need to find someone safe to share with.

Satan is a character in a story.  But he's not a happy character, and it's not a happy story.  If you are in a fragile state, it's best to keep your mind on the positive things you have going for you.  Trust your native intelligence and resourcefulness.  You have a lot more going for you than you realize, You are pretty, young, literate, living in a wealthy society, and smart enough to think for yourself.  That's a LOT more than many people have going for them.  The challenge is in figuring out how to put those resources to use.

If you are hurting.  Try reaching out for love and support.  It always works for me.

I hope this helps.

Exactly, Satan looses because he is thrown into the lake of fire. the end.  hence he looses. simple really. taking someone else's fairy tale and changing it to your liking doesn't make it anymore true. it's still BS. like i said Believers love to cherry pick...

Do you really think worshiping a fictional character that takes pleasure in torture etc is HEALTHY THINKING?

oops that was supposed to be directed at "the doomed soul" lol!

This site is much busier than our sister site so feel free to hang around here, but in case you haven't seen it we've set up a site just for teens to congregate with other freethinking teens.  You can access it by going to www.freethinkingteens.com or http://teens.rationalresponders.com

The login and password you use to get on this site is the exact same for that site.  Snoop around over there, and help keep it going.

...wait... what was the downside again?

Satanist, Christians, Muslims etc are all full of it. and by it i mean shit.  To me being a Satanist takes a person that is a bit more naive though. Satanism = A belief system that is made from another belief system to be rebellious. pffft! crap! not surprising though LaVey's biography describes dropping out of High School to join the circus and carnivals, first as a roustabout and cage boy in an act with the big cats, later as a musician playing the calliope. Becoming a local celebrity through his paranormal research and live performances as an organist. His whole life was a circus act that the naive bought into. i mean look at him lol! what a joke.

You think someone creating a religion is a big deal? Kids create their own make believe world everyday when going outside to play. But when they GROW UP they don't try to live in it still. i guess you are going to tell me ghost are real soon. typing fail over and over seems like a logical argument too. keep that up and you will win a prize I'm sure!

P.S "his" religion was not made entirely by him either. He stole most of it from Christianity! So much for being original... Without Christianity his religion would not exist!

I'm not sure I understand.  How is the way he lived his life and what he believed like a child making up their own make-believe world?

Also, I'd love to see where he stole most of his "religion" from Christianity.  Many times in his book he mentions how, instead of being a religion in opposition to Christianity, it is a freestanding alternative.  He mocks those who fight religion by creating religions, and instead seems content to do his own thing above the fray.  I can provide quotes to back that up, if you want; I'd like to see where your seemingly knee-jerk reactions are coming from as well.