So creepy...
Posted on: January 3, 2009 - 11:38pm
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So creepy...
People walk these around on strollers, talk to them, throw them birthday parties, treat them like real babies. Some are given breathing and heartbeat simulators. Some are made "squishy" soft to feel like a baby. It is a painstaking process to make them, and people pay top dollar to own them.
They're called Reborns. And they creep me out.
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My bet is that these people believe there's god also.
One question:
Are they machine washable?
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It's... it's like having a baby only you can still spend the college fund money.
Egads, some folks just can't let go. I worry that these dolls have the potential to feed a minor neurosis until it's a major one.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Or worse... they could one day replace humanity! OH NOES!
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Well, I can't say I really mind people picking-up an artificial companion (whether it's these, the Japanese sex dolls or something like the little digital pets kids used to be into) in lieu of being able to find a living companion if that's what pleases them. If memory serves, I believe in one country they were at least planning on releasing a line of lifelike children models for pedophiles to purchase, which (IMHO) is one of the more constructive ideas I've heard of for people with that particular disorder.
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
If that really keeps them away from real children then good. It is creepy as all hell, but if it helps even a small portion of pedos away from real kids then I support this. In the same sense that I support castration for convicted pedophiles.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
British General Charles Napier while in India
I think I'll stick with my pet rock for the time being.
... would anyone notice?
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
That sounds suspiciously like the women I used to date. Then one evening it dawned on me that if I dated women with brains, I could have intelligent conversation after sex without having to get dressed and leave the house. My bimbo dating brother attributes this to laziness on my part. I like to think of it as conservation of energy.
It takes a village to raise an idiot.
Save a tree, eat a vegetarian.
Sometimes " The Majority " only means that all the fools are on the same side.
Maybe it's a good thing. If people buy fake babies maybe they'll stop make so many real fucking kids. I wouldn't bet on it though. Who wants to wear a rain coat in the shower right?
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For the record, pay me $15,000 US and for 3 months I will lay around, suck tittie, shit myself, and cry about it.
I'm just sayin'.
Doesn't having a fake baby around remind you as to why you don't have a real one?
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ah, but this baby doesn't cry or crap... it just looks cute.
Can I get a black one?
I see a white doll and I want it painted black...
No colors anymore?
No, I want them to turn black.
"Nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes. There's too much fraternizing with the enemy."
I wonder if they could pass a Voight-Kampf test?
And could I get one built with the head and torso of a human baby, but with spider-like robotic limbs?
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--Bertrand Russell
DDA, what I really want to know is... did you have to look up the spelling for Voight-Kampf or did you just happen to know it off the top of your head?
Speaking of creepy artificial companions people will pay top dollar for...
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I guessed at it but I was pretty sure. That's a John Voight-Mein Kampf, test, right?
Edit: upon wikipedia inspection, it appears that "Kampff" with two f's is the proper spelling.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
Now imagine those dolls with robotics and an AI, scary right? Robotic sex dolls there's birth control for ya.
I have never seen anything like that before... I wonder if they float in a pool.
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This is like religion isn't it? Something that should be kept at home and kept private. Some women that are barren, might want one. Scary though.
Can you eat it? If not, I'm not interested.
There was an indie film about a lonely guy who bought one last year, though the name escapes me right now. I'm shocked at the price. You can rent a great deal of actual human attention for that much money, though the doll can obviously be sent across state lines, so I suppose that's an advantage of a sort.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
Holy Stupid CRAP!
That is just plain weird. I don't want to be judgemental, but what the hell kinda life do you hafta have to think that getting a freakin' DOLL to tote about like a REAL BABY is a good idea?!?! I mean...go out and volunTEER, or travel, or make something, or exercise, or get drunk, or SOMEthing! Wow. The most troubling part of that 'baby'-selling website is this quote, "God kept his promise and brought you home a lifelike baby doll". I mean...that's fucked up people! I'm just sayin'.
You are so right, peppermint...this is creepy.
Hamby...are you trying to get me in trouble at work?? The computer gods said that that link was PORNOGRAPHIC! You KNOW I don't like vulgar imagery!!!
DDA...I know the movie you are speaking of...it's in my netflix queue...it looks pretty funny, but I cannot find the title for you.
I don't know, some of the testimonials there look a lot like his writing style. Just saying.
Seven grand for a woman who won't complain about her needs being fulfilled. If she could be robotized and programmed to bring her owner a beer on command, all "natural" procreation would stop.
Only lesbian couples, gay couples and single mothers would have kids. Yay IVF, it saves humanity!
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Did you read some of the testimonials? Apparently they feel pretty real, too. By the way, if you have a favorite searchable porn site and think you have the stomach for what you'll find, try digging around for videos including "Real Doll." Don't say I didn't warn you, though.
In all fairness, I think I can half understand this. Let's be honest. There are women with whole drawers full of sex toys, and our normal reaction to them is, "Wow... you go girl!"
Have you seen the sex toys available for men? Most of them are not exactly.... um... inspiring. Men are mostly stimulated visually. As you say, these things are damn realistic looking, and dare I say... attractive. And as you also rightly point out, they don't get headaches, they don't insist that you go down on them for thirty minutes before you get your jollies, they don't demand that you cuddle afterwards. They just lay there and take it. I can imagine that for a man with the spare change to drop seven grand on a sex toy, it's probably worth the money.
Then again, maybe it's just creepy. I've never been a man with enough money to drop seven grand on a sex toy, so I guess I can't really relate.
Oh, and sorry for derailing the original thread. I think it's so creepy, I can't even begin to formulate thoughts about it.
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I'd like to visit the local zoo and while visiting the Big Cat exhibit heave one of the little rb's into the tiger's cage just to liven things up
for my fellow zoo-goers.
It’s apparent that Kim in the second video misses being a mother and that during the time while nursing her infant children she probably had gotten that very special attention from everyone that she craved for or had never gotten before or since.
I've encountered a few pet owners who could have been described as having “deeper psychological concerns” as Sara (can’t make out last name) put it. They will have lengthy conversations with them and pamper them beyond the deeper psychological concern.
Most theists are comparable to these people
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
Specifically how?
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They need to believe big daddy is up in the sky taking care of things.
They feel safer with this thought; they feel a need for god to have a reason/purpose to live. A god fills emotional holes.
And they do in fact talk to god.
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
Hmm. I guess I'm confused. I don't see how wanting a god to take care of things is analogous to wanting lots of attention from everybody.
Filling an emotional hole of loneliness is different than filling an emotional hole of fear of death or the unknown or whatever else god's going to take care of.
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I see
Ok then do you disagree entirely that theists are comparable to these people?
I don't see the connection, honestly. Maybe I'm just being dense, but it seems like somebody who would get a surrogate baby has issues with loneliness or abandonment or loss... very serious issues. Most theists are moderates, and just don't get that God doesn't make any sense. I honestly don't think the average theist is using god to cover up a very serious psychological problem.
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And the really strong theist is generally a baby nut who's trying to fill up the world's nooks and crannies with people who think just like him. For someone to purchase a fake baby as an attention crutch would probably bother them greatly.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
Human-like puppets and things that look like people, act like people but aren't people give me chills. I have a pretty intense reaction to some kinds of humanoid creations. It's not a phobia like it was as a child as I've gotten used to them and realized they won't hurt me, but essentially:
In all seriousness, there's something very disturbing about replacing large portions of human interaction with an inanimate object. Especially human-like ones with big vacant eyes. It seems almost evolutionary.
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Well, I would not pay top dollar for one, but I would not at all mind having such a plaything - not because it has no emotional needs (well, not primarily, anyway), but because such a doll allows one to circumvent the process of courtship requesting.
I would imagine that these types of toys would be vastly more popular among the socially disinclined than those who simply want to do things durin sex that they aren't sure a normal girl would allow (though I could be mistaken).
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
It's been my observation that getting a girl who is willing to try "X" where X is any relatively unusual sexual practice is relatively easy. It's just a matter of finding a group of people who are into it. (Remember the Pagans... Remember the Pagans...) Put another way, if a guy can get sex, he can get the kind of sex he wants. I suspect there are two kinds of people who buy these things. First, as you say, the socially awkward or disinclined are prime suspects, especially guys with some kind of physical problem or defect. Second, I think there's probably a market in the total other end of the spectrum. Really over-sexed guys who will try anything. (Think Quagmire from Family Guy.) I may be wrong about this, but I imagine rich world traveler types who have collections of exotic stuff would be drawn to this type of thing.
Um... so... you're saying you'd pay for a used one?
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No, i'm saying that purchasing one may be tsomething that would cross my mind if they were a more reasonable price.
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
My favorite search-able site had nothing for "real doll". However, even without the visual, I can totally understand why a guy would want to get it on with one of these things. What I can't understand, is having a 'relationship' with one.
The jig is up, wimmin!
As soon as they invent a bagel toasting/assembly accessory for my PC, off the ship yer' go!
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
I wonder if there's a Poe's law equivalent for perverted Guys
Y'know Alison, it's kinda hard fer yer' to get my sammich all fixed-up when yer' spendin' all that time lookin' up vidders' on that Interweb.
My belly ain't gunna fill itself, yer' know.
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Pineapple, that's a good video... creepy.. but good.
Then again, this thread is about creepy
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Also, I'd just like to add that the real doll site that Hamby linked to is totally sexist! There's only one option for women, and I would never have sex with someone that looked like that dude. He looks old enough to be my dad - and that's not a good thing, since I'm not into incest or older men. Thanks, but I'll just stick with my imagination.
I think that voice is Ned from Bubba the Love Sponge...My favorite character
"can I git one with 2 heads on her...that would be freaky"
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Ahhh. But have you tried an older man to know you don't like it?
Just askin'. lol
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Well, no. Point taken, lol.
But I have hooked up with a couple people that were 8 & 9 years older than I was at the time, and I wasn't really into it. So based on those experiences, I don't really have any desire to try someone even older. I tend to be attracted to guys that are the same age as I, or younger, but I've never really had a strong attraction toward anyone more than a year or two older than I am.
I mean come on if ya haven't tried older, and I mean OOOLDER, say Hefner's age how the heck can ya know, I mean he's got 3, 20 year old GF's, how bad could it be.....man it's so hard to type this without laughing. Without knowing your age (gonna guess early 20's) Older guys have more money to spend on ya....and if your hefner, millions and millions, take you on better trips (cancun bah that's for cheap folks, I say a good week on a private Island is better, or off to Italy, the greek islands or my personal favorite Snowboarding in Switzerland or Sweden).
But no seriously stick with what your comfortable, for me no older than 3 years older than me, and no younger than oh 19 (legal drinking age in Canada, well Toronto), of course I am 33 at this point so I will wait till I hit 35 to see if the older part increses or....decreases.