Hudson River Pilot Answers Prayer Question

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Hudson River Pilot Answers Prayer Question

Full article is here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6829332

But this is my favorite part:

Sullenberger, a former Air Force fighter pilot who has flown commercial planes for nearly three decades, said he knew he had to touch down with the wings level and the nose slightly up, and "at a descent rate that was survivable."

"Did you, at any point, pray?" CBS' Katie Couric asked.

"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

 

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Quote:"I would imagine

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"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

 

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Quote:"I would imagine

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"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

 

A brilliant answer to a fucking stupid question. I can't believe she didn't see some variation on that answer coming.

"Um, Katie - I was a little busy trying to fly the airplane."

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Quote:"I would imagine

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"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

 

A brilliant answer to a fucking stupid question. I can't believe she didn't see some variation on that answer coming.

"Um, Katie - I was a little busy trying to fly the airplane."

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geirj wrote:"Did you, at any

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"Did you, at any point, pray?" CBS' Katie Couric asked.

"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

Ha, brilliant.

 

 

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If he is an atheist, he

If he is an atheist, he should come out and say it. I think it would bother lots of Christians, even those on the plane, if they knew that a cootie spreader saved their lives.

What Christians cant stand is that atheists are capable of doing good and the thought of someone doing good without believing in poof logic, frightens them.

I am not sure exactly what he claims to be as the pilot. But he also commented in his hometown speech that "circumstances and training lead us to the outcome".

I love that admission that reality took priority over superstition. The reality is that any sane person is not, in that situtation going to want the pilot to stop what they are doing to solicite the help of an invisable friend. I am glad his attention was on the controls and not on some fictional being.

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The last pilot to pray while

My response to the question would be:  "The last pilot to pray while he was flying the plane was named Mohammed Atta."

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Well, I don't know if

Well, I don't know if he is a theist or not and google was no help on that matter. Even so I could make the bold conjecture that he is one.

 

However, I don't see how that would modify the fact that he did something that few people will ever be called on to do and fewer still will actually manage to pull off correctly. And he did so without any help from the magical sky daddy.

 

Then, having done what he did, he does not choose to make a public comment attributing what he did to any source past the basic fact of the matter. He is really good at his job and that is all that matters to him and to the people who are alive today because of that basic fact.

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I am so sick of the word

I am so sick of the word "miricle". In his "Key to the city" acceptance in NY the media anchors were spouting that word left and right ad nausium.

The introducer of the pilot said, "Thank you for making the impossible possible"

I HATE THAT FUCKING LOGIC!

If it was not possible it would not have happened.

 

Something  either happens or it does not happen. The rarity of an event doesnt mean that magic exists, it merely means that the conditions were in place.

The water was flat, and the skies were clear and the training of the pilot were there. Any slight deviation otherwise might have resulted in a different outcome. BUT this is what happened, so it was possible.

AGAIN, no magic needed to explain reality. These people survived, not because of a man in a white robe and the birds didn't hit the engines because of a man with a pitchfork.

I am so sick of that shit. I am glad the people survived. But they survived because of nature, not fictional Superman vs Kriptonite or 4 leaf clovers or rabbit's feet. If they had all died I would say the same thing, NATURE not magic.

 

 

 

 

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Well Brian, when I hear

Well Brian, when I hear people flipping that word around too damned much, I like to remember that “miracle” was the name of the horse in the Roman Empire part of History of the World part 1. That may be poor help by itself but once you get to the point where you can define a miracle as something other that supernatural, then you can call something that really is extraordinary a miracle with no god strings attached.

 

So where does that take us? Well, I have a couple of friends who are professional pilots and they tell me that pretty much the whole community of pilots hates the Airbus A320 with a passion. You see, they have one of the most intricate flight control systems in the skies. In theory, they can fly themselves from beginning to end. Just put a GPS coordinate in and the plane can take off, fly to the correct city and interface with ground control for landing with no human intervention.

 

Now this could be a good thing in some cases. For example, if the pilot dies in flight, there will be no 70's made for TV movie cliché where the stewardess call out over the intercom to see if anyone knows how to fly. Or if such a system was used in Boeing 767 jets, then LGA ground control would have been able to prevent the worst part of 9/11.

 

Sadly, the system does more harm that good. In theory the real pilot should be present as a safety feature and let the plane take care of itself until something bad happens. In reality, the engineers took into account the fact that pilot error is the leading cause of accidents and they granted the avionics the ability to “second guess” the pilot. However, they failed to provide an emergency switch that can shut the system down.

 

So, when the worst happens with one of those beasts, the pilot is not simply trying to bring the plane down safely (which is nearly impossible to do in a water landing at the best of times) but he is also doing that while fighting the avionics which have hard coded instructions on how to fly an airplane.

 

So if we allow the idea of a miracle that is really only an extraordinary feat,then yah, we are good to go. He not only did something that was so hard that most professional pilots can't manage such a task but he did it while the avionics were actually trying to kill everyone on the plane.

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Brian37 wrote:I am so sick

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I am so sick of the word "miricle".

I too am tiring of the word "miracle" being applied to this incident. There was actually little about it that was miraculous. A seasoned pilot, a plane that is designed to land in the water in case of emergency...I'm not seeing the miracle.

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geirj wrote:"I would imagine

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"I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane," he said.

I was visiting my mother and she was watching that. All I said was, "That guy is the man." Holy shit he was awesome. Couric was asking all the middle America questions for the audience, you could tell, and his answers were fantastic.

At one point she asked him something like, "did it feel like slow motion?" and he said, no, it felt just like three minutes, and I wish I did go into slow motion, because then I would have had more time to think. Then she asked him if he was relieved to land, and he said no, because the job wasn't done.

It wasn't until he heard that everyone survived that he relaxed. That is what I call the man.

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geirj wrote:Brian37 wrote:I

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Brian37 wrote:

I am so sick of the word "miricle".

I too am tiring of the word "miracle" being applied to this incident. There was actually little about it that was miraculous. A seasoned pilot, a plane that is designed to land in the water in case of emergency...I'm not seeing the miracle.

Right. It's a bad explanation, too. Those passengers were lucky to have that pilot, and "miracle" makes it seem like he didn't do anything.

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Well, I don't know if he is a theist or not and google was no help on that matter. Even so I could make the bold conjecture that he is one.

You must not have heard. It's a federal regulation that there be at least one atheist pilot on board in case of rapture.

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spike.barnett wrote:Answers

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Well, I don't know if he is a theist or not and google was no help on that matter. Even so I could make the bold conjecture that he is one.

You must not have heard. It's a federal regulation that there be at least one atheist pilot on board in case of rapture.

Just checking, but that's not true, right? Or is it Poe's law in action?