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Hypothetical Arguments Are Still Annoying

 If there were two atheists baking, and one of them made a lemon pie, and put it in the oven without the other atheist's knowledge, wouldn't the other atheist have to take it on FAITH that there was a lemon pie in the oven?

C'mon. How many kicks do we really have to have at this virtual can? It's embarrassing.

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 If an atheist puts a rat

 If an atheist puts a rat in the oven, and another atheist opens the oven, what are the odds that Shrodinger's cat ate the rat?

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Hambydammit wrote: If an

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 If an atheist puts a rat in the oven, and another atheist opens the oven, what are the odds that Shrodinger's cat ate the rat?

Roughly 843%. You forget, of course, that the oven is a multi-oven, and spans more than one oven-space. Therefore, we can conclude that the rat is actually five-dimensional quiche.

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If an atheist has seen god

If an atheist has seen god and tells an atheist friend that she's seen god, wouldn't her friend have to take it on faith that his friend is an atheist?

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 If the moon was made of

 If the moon was made of cream cheese, and an atheist ate it, would I have to take it on faith that Harry Carey is God?

 

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It is raining out side.I am

It is raining out side.
I am outside.
Therefore the moon is made of blue cheese.


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Hambydammit wrote: If the

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 If the moon was made of cream cheese, and an atheist ate it, would I have to take it on faith that Harry Carey is God?

 

Obviously.

BigUniverse wrote,

"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."


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Thomathy wrote:It is raining

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It is raining out side.
I am outside.
Therefore the moon is made of blue cheese.

That's what I'm talking about. This is the kind of superior logic that really moves us forward.

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Thomathy wrote:Hambydammit

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 If the moon was made of cream cheese, and an atheist ate it, would I have to take it on faith that Harry Carey is God?

Obviously.

Pretty sure. I mean, it was an atheist who ate it, right? So ... yeah, that means God.

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 My favorite Monty Python

 My favorite Monty Python skit that nobody's ever heard (because it's only on the album release of The Holy Grail):

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Good evening.

The last scene was interesting from the point of view of a professional logician because it contained a number of logical fallacies; that is, invalid propositional constructions and syllogistic forms, of the type so often committed by my wife. "All wood burns," states Sir Bedevere. "Therefore," he concludes, "all that burns is wood." This is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think.

However, my wife does not understand this necessary limitation of the conversion of a proposition; consequently, she does not understand me. For how can a woman expect to appreciate a professor of logic, if the simplest cloth-eared syllogism causes her to flounder.

For example, given the premise, "all fish live underwater" and "all mackerel are fish", my wife will conclude, not that "all mackerel live underwater", but that "if she buys kippers it will not rain", or that "trout live in trees", or even that "I do not love her any more." This she calls "using her intuition". I call it "crap", and it gets me very irritated because it is not logical.

"There will be no supper tonight," she will sometimes cry upon my return home. "Why not?" I will ask. "Because I have been screwing the milkman all day," she will say, quite oblivious of the howling error she has made. "But," I will wearily point out, "even given that the activities of screwing the milkman and getting supper are mutually exclusive, now that the screwing is over, surely then, supper may, logically, be got." " You don't love me any more," she will now often postulate. "If you did, you would give me one now and again, so that I would not have to rely on that rancid Pakistani for my orgasms." "I will give you one after you have got me my supper," I now usually scream, "but not before" -- as you understand, making her bang contingent on the arrival of my supper.

"God, you turn me on when you're angry, you ancient brute!" she now mysteriously deduces, forcing her sweetly throbbing tongue down my throat. "Fuck supper!" I now invariably conclude, throwing logic somewhat joyously to the four winds, and so we thrash about on our milk-stained floor, transported by animal passion, until we sink back, exhausted, onto the cartons of yoghurt.

I'm afraid I seem to have strayed somewhat from my original brief. But in a nutshell:

Sex is more fun than logic -- one cannot prove this, but it "is" in the same sense that Mount Everest "is", or that Alma Cogan "isn't".

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Hamby, something awful has

Hamby, something awful has happened, you need to fix your post. 

I don't remember ever seeing that before.  Hilarious!

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I have no idea.  I've

I have no idea.  I've checked the source code, and I haven't the foggiest idea what happened.

 

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Whoa! That's awesome. I wish

Whoa! That's awesome. I wish I knew how to do that. Lol.

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If an atheist makes a thread

If an atheist makes a thread go kablooey, do the other atheists have to take it on faith that he checked the source code? Eye-wink Sticking out tongue

"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray


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Quote:If an atheist makes a

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If an atheist makes a thread go kablooey, do the other atheists have to take it on faith that he checked the source code? Eye-wink Sticking out tongue

Notice that I didn't make any claims about my ability to interpret or fix source code?  I just said I looked at it.  Didn't look funny to me.  Then again... I wouldn't know what funny looked like.

I'm sort of like the guy who looks under the hood when the car breaks down just to impress his wife, because he doesn't know jack shit about how to fix cars.

 

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Hambydammit wrote:Quote:If

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If an atheist makes a thread go kablooey, do the other atheists have to take it on faith that he checked the source code? Eye-wink Sticking out tongue

Notice that I didn't make any claims about my ability to interpret or fix source code?  I just said I looked at it.  Didn't look funny to me.  Then again... I wouldn't know what funny looked like.

I'm sort of like the guy who looks under the hood when the car breaks down just to impress his wife, because he doesn't know jack shit about how to fix cars.

 

Hehehe Smiling

Well, the code made me laugh a bit, so it must be funny. Laughing out loud If you kill off all the embedded <tr>,<td>,</td>, and </tr> in your post it should unkablooey the thread.

Not that I advacate it, this way is far more interesting =^_^=

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That's the funny part.  I

That's the funny part.  I nuked those very codes several times, and they keep magically reappearing.

 

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Hambydammit wrote:That's the

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That's the funny part.  I nuked those very codes several times, and they keep magically reappearing.
This board software seems designed to make posting and maintaining forums a form of torture :\

Still, a little bizarre now and again keeps things interesting Laughing out loud

 

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You know what?  I even

You know what?  I even deleted the offending post, and guess what?  It's still here.

 

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This is proof that the board

This is proof that the board is haunted. I'm an atheist so that means you all can thake that on faith.

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If an atheist makes a thread go kablooey, do the other atheists have to take it on faith that he checked the source code? Eye-wink Sticking out tongue

Notice that I didn't make any claims about my ability to interpret or fix source code?  I just said I looked at it.  Didn't look funny to me.  Then again... I wouldn't know what funny looked like.

I'm sort of like the guy who looks under the hood when the car breaks down just to impress his wife, because he doesn't know jack shit about how to fix cars.

 

 

     Guys look under the hood hoping to see the gnome danceing around crying  "Ha ha  I broke the thingy-ma-hicky, see! " at which point  the guy can fix the thingy-ma-hicky and never tell anyone he saw a gnome.

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Holy fuck this is cool.

Holy fuck this is cool.


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Since it's cut and paste

Since it's cut and paste it's almost surely the source code. Just delete it and post it again, but before you post drop it in notepad or something else that reverts everything it touches to bare ascii.

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Hambydammit wrote:You know

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You know what?  I even deleted the offending post, and guess what?  It's still here.

 

Woah... Spooky.

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JillSwift wrote:If you kill

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If you kill off all the embedded <tr>,<td>,</td>, and </tr> in your post it should unkablooey the thread.

Not that I advacate it, this way is far more interesting =^_^=

Yeah, that was all it was. I hope I didn't spoil the fun by fixing it, but I couldn't actually read any threads after Hamby's -- that's how wonky it went on my browser.

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One of my favorite bits of

One of my favorite bits of logic goes like this:

 

P1:  A ham sandwich is better than nothing.

 

P2:  Nothing is better than eternal happiness.

 

C:  Therefore, a ham sandwich is clearly better than eternal happiness.

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HisWillness wrote:JillSwift

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If you kill off all the embedded <tr>,<td>,</td>, and </tr> in your post it should unkablooey the thread.

Not that I advacate it, this way is far more interesting =^_^=

Yeah, that was all it was. I hope I didn't spoil the fun by fixing it, but I couldn't actually read any threads after Hamby's -- that's how wonky it went on my browser.

Aww. No more schizoid thread.


 

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Yeah, I'm bummed too. Well,

Yeah, I'm bummed too.

 

Well, time to actually address the OP, I suppose.

 

I have faith that the two atheists have faith that one of them is cooking a pie.

Though of course, my faith is based on the faith that the one that didn't put the pie in the oven can't get near the oven or smell the cooking pie.

 

Faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith

 

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crazymonkie wrote:Yeah, I'm

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Yeah, I'm bummed too.

 

Well, time to actually address the OP, I suppose.

 

I have faith that the two atheists have faith that one of them is cooking a pie.

Though of course, my faith is based on the faith that the one that didn't put the pie in the oven can't get near the oven or smell the cooking pie.

 

Faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith faith

 

Yes, I am having fun with this.

I once dated a girl named Faith. She cheated on me with a girl named Chastity. Neither of them liked pie. I'm sure this proves something, I'm just not sure what.


 

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It proves you're a prophet,

It proves you're a prophet, obviously. Clearly it's not a coincidence- how could it be with that many righteous-sounding words all strung together?

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HisWillness wrote: If there

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 If there were two atheists baking, and one of them made a lemon pie, and put it in the oven without the other atheist's knowledge, wouldn't the other atheist have to take it on FAITH that there was a lemon pie in the oven?

C'mon. How many kicks do we really have to have at this virtual can? It's embarrassing.

Not at all. The other atheist can open the oven and check to see if there is indeed a pie.

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JillSwift wrote:I once dated

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I once dated a girl named Faith. She cheated on me with a girl named Chastity. Neither of them liked pie. I'm sure this proves something, I'm just not sure what.

You should have had some hot girl on girl on girl action.

I know if I were there, I'd have suggested a foursome.

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HisWillness wrote: If there

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 If there were two atheists baking, and one of them made a lemon pie, and put it in the oven without the other atheist's knowledge, wouldn't the other atheist have to take it on FAITH that there was a lemon pie in the oven?

C'mon. How many kicks do we really have to have at this virtual can? It's embarrassing.

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I once dated a girl named Faith. She cheated on me with a girl named Chastity. Neither of them liked pie. I'm sure this proves something, I'm just not sure what.

You should have had some hot girl on girl on girl action.

I know if I were there, I'd have suggested a foursome.

Knowing those two, they would have agreed under the sole condition you got gender reassignment surgery first. Sticking out tongue

I don't think that would be worth it for you, though, as I said: They didn't like pie. I mean... Pie! It's pie! How do you not like PIE!

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JillSwift wrote:Knowing

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Knowing those two, they would have agreed under the sole condition you got gender reassignment surgery first. Sticking out tongue

I don't think that would be worth it for you, though, as I said: They didn't like pie. I mean... Pie! It's pie! How do you not like PIE!

So you're saying they liked pie, they just didn't like pie.

I, myself, am a big fan of pie. It really goes without saying, despite my just saying it. Redundantly. Unnecessarily. Redundantly.

...

I'm just sayin' I like pie, is all.

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HisWillness wrote:JillSwift

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Knowing those two, they would have agreed under the sole condition you got gender reassignment surgery first. Sticking out tongue

I don't think that would be worth it for you, though, as I said: They didn't like pie. I mean... Pie! It's pie! How do you not like PIE!

So you're saying they liked pie, they just didn't like pie.

I, myself, am a big fan of pie. It really goes without saying, despite my just saying it. Redundantly. Unnecessarily. Redundantly.

...

I'm just sayin' I like pie, is all.

So we agree, then, that no one really likes pie.


 

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JillSwift wrote:I once dated

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I once dated a girl named Faith. She cheated on me with a girl named Chastity. Neither of them liked pie. I'm sure this proves something, I'm just not sure what.

 

 

Wait. Ummm. Wasn't liking 'pie' a prerequisite for dating you???

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I once dated a girl named Faith. She cheated on me with a girl named Chastity. Neither of them liked pie. I'm sure this proves something, I'm just not sure what.
Wait. Ummm. Wasn't liking 'pie' a prerequisite for dating you???
Hmm. That just might explain the brevity of the relationship.


 

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Didn't Buffy the Vampire

Didn't Buffy the Vampire Slayer have Faith?