Income Tax Reality Check

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Income Tax Reality Check

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Government that relies on

Government that relies on taxing income to sustain itself is unsustainable. The current tax policy encourages exploitation, waist and pollution of our natural resources while punishing hard work and innovation.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen


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EXC wrote:Governments that relies on

taxing income to sustain itself is unsustainable.I agree whole heartily,That's why I consider my self an Anarchist,and not like the ones that we see on the boob tube,but like Noam Chomsky explains in his book "Chomsky on Anarchism" a really good read,check it out  flag.blackened.net/revolt/rbr/noamrbr2.html

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I'm a fan of the fair tax.

I'm a fan of the fair tax.


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spike.barnett wrote : I'm a fan of the fair tax.

  Well in my opinion,a fair tax needs a real Democracy.Politicians tried to convince us that NAFTA would be good for a fair trade economy,and that turned out to be a bunch of shit.That why we need a participatory Democratic society. 

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Usual crap about some how a

Usual crap about some how a person has the right to live and work in a country without paying for it

The only rights you have are the ones you pay for via taxes and responsbility, you don't pay taxes you don't have the right to work or live in a country simply as that

 

 


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mrjonno wrote:Usual crap

mrjonno wrote:

Usual crap about some how a person has the right to live and work in a country without paying for it

The only rights you have are the ones you pay for via taxes and responsbility, you don't pay taxes you don't have the right to work or live in a country simply as that 

I'm all for paying for what you use. The problem is, you treat all income the same. Someone could be a computer programmer make millions a year while only using a small office, very little water, land, utilities or government services. What's this person going to do if a government thinks it has right to 60% or more of their income? There going to move, so you'll be stuck with people demanding tons of government services that can't pay much taxes.

Then you have farmers and industry that use old technology, waist water, waist land, dump pesticides on the land and water. The land is for personal profit and not public benefit. You got people owning McMansions in the suburbs. They all get a subsidy and tax breaks. That's why California is broke, that's why the whole USA soon will be as well.

If you believe in paying for what you use, then support a system where people are charged user fees for using the land, water, air, oil, minerals, etc...Then use this money to train people for the jobs in demand. But why punish people just for working hard and being innovative? They are not using a lot of services and they can easily relocate.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen


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EXC wrote:I'm all for paying

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I'm all for paying for what you use. The problem is, you treat all income the same. Someone could be a computer programmer make millions a year while only using a small office, very little water, land, utilities or government services. What's this person going to do if a government thinks it has right to 60% or more of their income? There going to move, so you'll be stuck with people demanding tons of government services that can't pay much taxes.

Then you have farmers and industry that use old technology, waist water, waist land, dump pesticides on the land and water. The land is for personal profit and not public benefit. You got people owning McMansions in the suburbs. They all get a subsidy and tax breaks. That's why California is broke, that's why the whole USA soon will be as well.

If you believe in paying for what you use, then support a system where people are charged user fees for using the land, water, air, oil, minerals, etc...Then use this money to train people for the jobs in demand. But why punish people just for working hard and being innovative? They are not using a lot of services and they can easily relocate.

I am quite prepared to admit that it might be possible to improve on the current tax system but while the system is democratic designed then tax evasion is theft not tax, ie in most cases bad laws are better than no laws at all


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mrjonno wrote:I am quite

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I am quite prepared to admit that it might be possible to improve on the current tax system but while the system is democratic designed then tax evasion is theft not tax, ie in most cases bad laws are better than no laws at all

The current laws are not designed to provide good jobs, protect the environment, etc... They have only one purpose: to keep the people who make the laws in power and to help their cronies become wealthy without work.

Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen


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EXC wrote:the current laws are not designed to provide good jobs

and protect the environment. Yes indeed,the laws are here to protect the rich from the poor,but they're also here to sustain the American Empire,59% of our tax dollars go into "The Military Industrial Complex"they are also here to maintain our prison industrial complex and let's not forget the Banking complex,NASA (what a waste) and yet we can't get a universal health-care plan.We find ourselves living in an Illusion about FREEDOM,we live in a time of GREED,GOD and Narcissism.   

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Ken G. wrote:   Well in my

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  Well in my opinion,a fair tax needs a real Democracy.Politicians tried to convince us that NAFTA would be good for a fair trade economy,and that turned out to be a bunch of shit.That why we need a participatory Democratic society. 

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spikewrote:Not fair trade.Fair Tax

 Yes ,I know what you were saying about fair tax,but according to the website Fair Tax,one of the main principals is for American products to compete fairly.And Nafta clearly ain't fair,it hurts us and the other countries that follow it's rules.I also disagree with Paul's video about this so called "great nation" is the only nation that gives the individual this great potential.How about Norway,Sweden and Iceland ,these great nation start you off with free access to a Health Care plan and a Free Education,we're at the bottom of the list when it comes down to the individual potentiality.  

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mrjonno wrote:Usual crap

mrjonno wrote:

Usual crap about some how a person has the right to live and work in a country without paying for it

The only rights you have are the ones you pay for via taxes and responsbility, you don't pay taxes you don't have the right to work or live in a country simply as that

 

 

 

Its obvious you know nothing about taxes if you think our income tax goes to pay for anything or our rights are derived from government. I suggest you take a moment and research Grace Commission to find out where our income tax goes to.

 

Also, read the declaration of independance. It states our rights are Derived from our creator and are UNALIENABLE.

 

Also to those using the word democracy, your all completely incorrect.  The constitution gave rise to a constitutional REPUBLIC. Nothing worse then seeing a bunch of "ACTIVISTS" that do not know what their talking about.