News out of Iran???

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News out of Iran???

 ...I realize it's tough to get much of anything reported on in Iran, what with the government essentially declaring a state-wide media black-out and arresting/deporting any foreign media they catch trying to film there... but man, what the fuck? Where the Hell are the mainstream news stories??? Nothing on CBC today, nothing on CNN almost ever, not even C-Span or printed media are doing any justice to what's going on over there. 

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is shooting into crowds in broad daylight, invading homes, beating dissidents, transforming hospitals into checkpoints... so where the Hell is the coverage? Even if they cannot send in film crews, they sure as Hell could post-up the videos of people being shot and maimed that have gone out over the web and given some time to the story. 

Infuriating.

 

 

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Iran falls to US PSYOPS

 I think this is a very interesting article informationclearinghouse.info/article22882.htm


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Ken G. wrote: I think this

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 I think this is a very interesting article informationclearinghouse.info/article22882.htm

There was more objective evidence that George W. Bush stole his two elections than there is at this time of election theft in Iran.

 

I'm out......Information Clearing House is the bleeding edge of conspiracy BS.

 

I'm with Kevin on this: In this day and age there should be a wealth of information flooding out of Iran.

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Abu Lahab wrote:There was

Abu Lahab wrote:

There was more objective evidence that George W. Bush stole his two elections than there is at this time of election theft in Iran.

 

I'm out......Information Clearing House is the bleeding edge of conspiracy BS.

 

I'm with Kevin on this: In this day and age there should be a wealth of information flooding out of Iran.

I am curious though, is there any real evidence, to say the election was rigged? It seems that the most reliable polling taken suggests otherwise:

"An independent poll, conducted by Terror Free Tomorrow: The Center for Public Opinion, a nonprofit institute that researches attitudes toward extremism, found that Ahmadinejad was leading by a margin of 2 to 1. 34% said they'd vote for Ahmadinejad, 14% favored Mousavi, 2% favored Karroubi, 1% favored Rezaee and 27% were undecided. The poll was taken from May 11 to May 20. The poll was carried out by a company whose work for ABC News and the BBC in the Middle East has received an Emmy award. Polling itself was funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Writing in the Washington Post, pollsters Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty have used this to suggest that Ahmadinejad's apparent victory might reflect the will of the Iranian people.[51] The poll was quoted by Reuters,[52] Khaleej Times[53] and Jim Muir of BBC News.[54]   (Wikipedia)."

I think i agree with the view of the infomration clearing house here, that there's more reason to believe Bush stole his lost two elections, than Ahmadinejad did. 

 

 

 


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Yeah, only a conspiracy

Yeah, only a conspiracy theorist would believe that the US would foment a coup in another country. Especially a country like Iran...in 1953.

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Kevin R Brown wrote: ...I

Kevin R Brown wrote:

 ...I realize it's tough to get much of anything reported on in Iran, what with the government essentially declaring a state-wide media black-out and arresting/deporting any foreign media they catch trying to film there... but man, what the fuck? Where the Hell are the mainstream news stories??? Nothing on CBC today, nothing on CNN almost ever, not even C-Span or printed media are doing any justice to what's going on over there. 

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is shooting into crowds in broad daylight, invading homes, beating dissidents, transforming hospitals into checkpoints... so where the Hell is the coverage? Even if they cannot send in film crews, they sure as Hell could post-up the videos of people being shot and maimed that have gone out over the web and given some time to the story. 

Infuriating.

 

Just how do you propose reporters report, and information get out?

Iranian government has control of all TV, Phone, and Internet structures. Those that arent shut down, are under direct control of military/government officials.

Iranian reports and spokesmen opposion are being rounded up and jailed (or shot?)

Borders are on lock-down

Citizens are being shot in the street... yay mass riots!

 

Just how the hell is information going to get out, in a timely manner?

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The Doomed Soul wrote:Just

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Just how the hell is information going to get out, in a timely manner?

Ninja carrier pigeon.

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Abu Lahab wrote:Ninja

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Ninja carrier pigeon.

 

A pirate attack hawk would solve that...


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The Doomed Soul wrote:Abu

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Abu Lahab wrote:

Ninja carrier pigeon.

 

A pirate attack hawk would solve that...

 

 Too late to throw in 'Invisible, ultra-stealth, ninja carrier pigeon'? Damn it!

 

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The Doomed Soul wrote:Abu

The Doomed Soul wrote:

Abu Lahab wrote:

Ninja carrier pigeon.

 

A pirate attack hawk would solve that...

Fighter jets have some pretty cool names already, but the US seriously needs a ninja and pirate model. Or maybe just one Ninja-Pirate Zombie Slayer, or something


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bah the heck with the pirate.

This day and age we should have cyborg ninja carrier pigeons.


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Here's some

Here's some info:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/iran-the-revolution/

The prevailing wisdom in Middle Eastern circles is that the Iranian protests will only grow ............. here is a translation of an influential editorial in CAIRO. I have reviewed a number of pieces like this ....

EDITORIAL EXPECTS FURTHER ESCALATION OF IRANIAN PROTESTS

CAIRO AL-AHRAM IN ARABIC 23 JUN 09 P 11(U)

Editorial: "Escalation of the Iranian Political Crisis"

No signs are visible in Iran of a possible waning of the movement of protests and demonstrations that flared up in opposition to Ahmadinejad's victory in the presidential elections held on 12 June. The political crisis, which is almost blowing Tehran away, will likely escalate.

Perhaps the main reason for the worsening of the Iranian crisis is the state of confusion dominating the ruling circles. These have ignored the reasons why Iranians are protesting the election results and have resorted to describing the protesters as terrorist groups. This amounts to slander against the patriotism of the Iranians and a great insult to their legitimate aspirations and hopes for freedom and democracy.

This official Iranian position will tend to inflame the moves of the demonstrators. It will not divert them from striving to realize their demands, especially after members of the Iranian people have been killed or wounded, in addition to the campaign of arrests of demonstrators.

Neutral political observers therefore deem it likely that the protest movement will escalate and that the country will fall into spirals of bloodshed, since the Iranian protest movement is gaining new crowds of people every day opposing the results of the presidential elections, despite the official repression and violence.

This means that the current confrontation between the mass protest movement and the Iranian authorities will escalate in the next few days in a way that may portend a further disturbance of Iranian conditions.

  Cairo Al-Ahram in Arabic -- State-Owned daily newspaper of record

 

In all honesty you have to poke about and do some work to get really good reports, but they are out there. Still no Cyborg-Ninja-Ultra-Stealth Carrier pigeons, which is a pisser.

 

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latincanuck wrote:This day

latincanuck wrote:

This day and age we should have cyborg ninja carrier pigeons.

 

Aahh... the cyborg enchancements would just make them easier to track for the catapult launched, heat-seeking mutant sparrows...

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Abu Lahab wrote: Here's some info........

 you gotta be kidding me,a web site that is called Atlas Shrugs,and supports this clown Geert Wilders (who is an Extreme right winger) in the Dutch Parliament,who's hero is Margaret Thatcher,and hates Islam and Socialism. Yeah this is a good source for information (NOT), and then in your first post you call "information clearing house.info" the bleeding edge of conspiracy BS. Well excuse......me ,but I would seriously disagree with your assessment about " ICH " ,this site post many blogs that are written by the likes of " Seymour Hersh (Pulitzer prize winner), Jeremy Scahill (Blackwater) Ray McGovern former CIA analyst and wrote the daily briefing for two US presidents,Noam Chomsky (denies conspiracy's) Howard Zinn (People's History of the US) and a few other investigative journalist.

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And then have swallows carry them outside the borders.

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manofmanynames wrote:I

manofmanynames wrote:
I am curious though, is there any real evidence, to say the election was rigged? It seems that the most reliable polling taken suggests otherwise:

 

Yah, sure.

 

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THE Guardian Council, an unelected committee that is meant to oversee Iran’s elections, declared on Tuesday June 23rd that it was happy with the presidential poll and that the result would stand. The body continued to uphold Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s victory despite grudgingly conceding on Monday that there were indeed inconsistencies with the polling. Indeed the number of votes in 50 cities exceeded by 3m the number of voters actually registered there.

 

www.economist.com/world/mideast-africa/displayStory.cfm

 

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Ken G. wrote: you gotta be

Ken G. wrote:

 you gotta be kidding me,a web site that is called Atlas Shrugs,and supports this clown Geert Wilders (who is an Extreme right winger) in the Dutch Parliament,who's hero is Margaret Thatcher,and hates Islam and Socialism. Yeah this is a good source for information (NOT), and then in your first post you call "information clearing house.info" the bleeding edge of conspiracy BS. Well excuse......me ,but I would seriously disagree with your assessment about " ICH " ,this site post many blogs that are written by the likes of " Seymour Hersh (Pulitzer prize winner), Jeremy Scahill (Blackwater) Ray McGovern former CIA analyst and wrote the daily briefing for two US presidents,Noam Chomsky (denies conspiracy's) Howard Zinn (People's History of the US) and a few other investigative journalist.

You can seriously disagree all you want, that's what is so cool about the Internet:

Hersh: "... made a distinction between the standards of strict factual accuracy for his print reporting and the leeway he allows himself in speeches." Liar.

Chomsky: Fool

Scahill, McGovern : Worth reading/listening to.

Geert Wilders is a lone voice in the EU wilderness of dhimmitude.

 

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