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Can I get some help possibly?

I'm currently in the military and I'm do to get out in January. I am hoping to start school, but I'm a little torn on what I would like to focus on. I have an interest in Biology but my math is sub par, so I was looking at physical anthropology as an alternative. I'm trying to find some information or literature to look at on anthropology before I commit to something and find that it's not what I was expecting. I can't find a thing on the topic though.


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Big E wrote:I'm currently in

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I'm currently in the military and I'm do to get out in January. I am hoping to start school, but I'm a little torn on what I would like to focus on. I have an interest in Biology but my math is sub par, so I was looking at physical anthropology as an alternative. I'm trying to find some information or literature to look at on anthropology before I commit to something and find that it's not what I was expecting. I can't find a thing on the topic though.

They let atheists in our military? WHAT THE FUCK! You do know that because you joined you are defending Jesus and the Republican party. I bet you defend pesky nonsense like "No Religious Test". You are destroying OUR beloved theocracy you you you you "wall" lover you!

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LOL.Thanks for the welcome

LOL.Thanks for the welcome bro. And yes, they do let Atheists/Anti-Theists in the military, but they don't like it much! It's insane how much of the military is comprised of those good ol' southern boys that love god and country.


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Big E wrote:LOL.Thanks for

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LOL.Thanks for the welcome bro. And yes, they do let Atheists/Anti-Theists in the military, but they don't like it much! It's insane how much of the military is comprised of those good ol' southern boys that love god and country.

Would you mind coming over to a local message board to remind a guy who served who is a believer that people like you do exist. He seems to think you are like Thor, just a product of my imagination because I didn't serve.

http://www.thesunnews.com/forums/?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aa61ac900-dab6-4e8c-9f86-fcbcda72abcfForum%3...

And I also welcome anyone else serving to jump in too. Even Christians who voted for Obama, or Jews who served. Just trying to drive home the point to this guy that he doesn't own a monopoly on what it means to be an American because he served.

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It's telling me that an

It's telling me that an unexpected error has occured. What am I looking for here? I will gladly show that I'm not a yetti.


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Big E wrote:It's telling me

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It's telling me that an unexpected error has occured. What am I looking for here? I will gladly show that I'm not a yetti.

 

Of course you're not a Yetti... you dont live in Canada!

You happen to be American, which makes you a... Sasquatch!

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It is "TheSunNews". 

It is "TheSunNews".  Register first.

Then the dropdown menue under "opinions" go to "Disscussion boards". Then "General", then the title of the thread by a guy named Kuma, the title of the thread is something like "Brian, here is what real men do NOT FOR KIDS"

Sorry the link didn't work. Hope you don't mind doing it this way. I always fuck up links. Could you imagine me serving.....shit.....we'd all be fucked.

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Good call. The funny thing

Good call. The funny thing about your correction, I've been called that many times. I actually had a role in Harry and the Henderson's . Have you seen it?


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BTW, don't go over there

BTW, don't go over there challenging him to a physical fight. I think he is already mad enough that I burst his bubble. Not what anyone should do in any case. I just want him to know he has no monopoly on the military.

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Ok brother, I let kuma or

Ok brother, I let kuma or whoever he is know a thing or 2. I enjoy that so much though that I'm going to check the rest of it.


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I don't usually challenge

I don't usually challenge for physical fights, at my size I never have to...lol


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Big E wrote:I don't usually

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I don't usually challenge for physical fights, at my size I never have to...lol

I am afraid of my own shadow so I am glad their are people like you, AND KUMA, despite his wrongheadness, am glad that I live in a country where he can bitch at me without fear and I can bitch at him without fear. I just wish people like him would accept that YOU are an equal citizen.

I am quite sure BOTH OF YOU could mop the floor with me.

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Hi and welcome!I can tell

Hi and welcome!

I can tell you a few things about physical anthropology, also called biological anthropology. First, it is only called that at universities and in academia. If you have a job "doing" physical anthropology, you'll likely be working as a human osteologist or archaeologist specializing in human remains, or something similar. Anthropology, as I'm sure you know, is the study of humans. Physical anthropology is the study of the physical parts (ie the human body). Rather than study the body for medical purposes, phsical anthropologists study it to see what it can tell us about humans (either in general or, more likely, about a specific population). There are many kinds of biological anthropologists. The professor who taught my first year class was a specialist in ancient disease. You might want to buy a used  first year text book (if you look around you can find people selling old editions for ~$20). Hope this helps


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An overdo welcome appears to

An overdo welcome appears to be in order. Smiling

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Big E wrote:

It's telling me that an unexpected error has occured. What am I looking for here? I will gladly show that I'm not a yetti.

 

Of course you're not a Yetti... you dont live in Canada!

You happen to be American, which makes you a... Sasquatch!

I nearly burst a gut on that one. Laughing out loud

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Thanks for the welcome and

Thanks for the welcome and the response. Basically, as I said, I was hoping to do something involving science and the evolutionary process, but I'm no good with numbers so that takes a lot of things away. That's why I was leaning toward biological anthropology. Anybody have an opinion of a good field? I'm  not so sure that I want to go home and be a cop, but if I don't figure things out, that might be what I get stuck with.


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No good with math *at all*?

No good with math *at all*? I think once you get past undergrad, most of the math will be in statistics (correct me if I'm wrong, anybody), which is not really that hard math at all, once you get the hang of it. I think only the more technical branches of biology (e.g. genetics) will involve more than statistics.

You may have to get through a calculus course in undergrad, but I'm sure you'd be able to tough it out for just one course. (Unless you're completely hopeless at math?) Find a friend who's a whiz and get him/her to help you out.

Even the stats will be handled mostly by stats programs when you get to the research side of things, so I'm not sure how much math/stats skill would actually be required if you got a career in bio. I think you just need a solid background of knowledge, not so much number-crunching and formula-deriving.

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I don't know a lot about

I don't know a lot about biological anthropology, but I am a physical therapy student right now and I couldn't like it more.  If you are into science based courses with little math requirements (calc and physics are the only requirements), then you should look into it.  You aren't learning directly about evolution, but in physiology, anatomy, and neuro (among others) you are taught everything there is to know about the body, man's strong stuctural and functional correlation to other animals--especially physiologically--, and the like.  As well, it ends up being a pretty good job, with a ton of different subcategories to specialize in. 

 

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The math involved in biology

The math involved in biology is statistics and calculus. Calculus scares me a bit, numbers don't belong in math. My problem is that I've been out of school for 13-14 years. Maybe I should tough it out and see what happens.


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Just avoid linear algebra

Just avoid linear algebra and advanced calculus (slug your way through basic calculus) and you should be fine. Buckle down and get some friends' help with the tough parts. Calculus is just slopes and areas, if you think about it that way. If you can understand a graph with lines going up and down, you can eventually get through calculus. Statistics is just counting things, and considering proportions. Some formulas to memorize, but beyond that, not much. Linear algebra on the other hand.... WTF is an Eigenvector? (Don't even answer, if you know. I couldn't care less.)

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Big E wrote:The math

Big E wrote:

The math involved in biology is statistics and calculus. Calculus scares me a bit, numbers don't belong in math. My problem is that I've been out of school for 13-14 years. Maybe I should tough it out and see what happens.

As one of the previous posters said, physical therapy might be a good field for you to look at. There are actually quite a few ways to get into the healthcare industry on the front lines, and then go back to school later if you want to advance.

You could start by Googling "good jobs that don't require a degree". Physical/occupational therapy comes up quite a bit.

If you're scared of numbers and math, don't worry - you've probably just had a lot of bad math teachers. I used to be the same way - I would get really bad grades in math courses. But then I discovered statistics. Statistics are great because of the immediate practical applications. With other math courses, it was hard to see the point.

I would recommend you take an introduction to statistics course at your local university/community college. I'm assuming your GI benefits will cover that. The nice thing about statistics is that the intro courses tend to have students from all kinds of academic concentrations. The same intro to statistics course is taken by science majors and business majors because it's all the same stuff.

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geirj wrote:Big E wrote:The

geirj wrote:

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The math involved in biology is statistics and calculus. Calculus scares me a bit, numbers don't belong in math. My problem is that I've been out of school for 13-14 years. Maybe I should tough it out and see what happens.

As one of the previous posters said, physical therapy might be a good field for you to look at. There are actually quite a few ways to get into the healthcare industry on the front lines, and then go back to school later if you want to advance.

You could start by Googling "good jobs that don't require a degree". Physical/occupational therapy comes up quite a bit.

If you're scared of numbers and math, don't worry - you've probably just had a lot of bad math teachers. I used to be the same way - I would get really bad grades in math courses. But then I discovered statistics. Statistics are great because of the immediate practical applications. With other math courses, it was hard to see the point.

I would recommend you take an introduction to statistics course at your local university/community college. I'm assuming your GI benefits will cover that. The nice thing about statistics is that the intro courses tend to have students from all kinds of academic concentrations. The same intro to statistics course is taken by science majors and business majors because it's all the same stuff.

 

I think you mistaking physical therapy for personal training... Physical therapy right now is a masters degree minimum, then you have to pass a licensing exam.  However, within the next 5 years, it will be necessary to get your doctorate.  Personal trainers need only take a 3 hour course and pass a test.  Just clearing the air so there isn't confusion.


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Brian37 wrote:(Note to self:

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(Note to self: Did you notice the gun he was flexing in his avatar?)

 

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