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1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

2. Humanism is over-rated

3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

For shits and giggles...

15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

Be careful before you respond to these statements, if any at all, because you may want to ensure the answers can not be used against you or your beliefs. Humans... the one animal that will opine at no charge.

 

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1. Man has killed Man from

1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

I don't know

2. Humanism is over-rated

No

3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

I don't know what your talking about

4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

Depends on the human.

5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

Maybe

6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

I have no opinion on this

7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

I'm not a real history buff.  

8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

I don't know how well monkeys reason.

9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

I don't know

10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

Like I said, I don't know much about history.

11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

Define what you mean by worst and best.

12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

that isn't really how I would define Terrorism.  I would define terrorism as the use of violent terror tactics in an attempt to bring about political change.    based on my definition I would say yes.  

13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

I don't know her

14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

In christ kid are you talking about a specific christ kid or christion children in general? 

For shits and giggles...

15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

I've never used it.

16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

who?

17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

Maybe.

18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

There isn't really much information about him.

19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

I don't know.

20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

I don't know


 


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1. Man has killed Man from

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 Quote:1. Man has killed

 

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1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

True.  

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2. Humanism is over-rated

I think this is a subjective question, but for me, it's true.

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3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

Unquestionably false.

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4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

um... given the right circumstances, true.  Feels like a leading statement/question, though.  Reeks of bias.

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5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

Generally speaking, I'd say this can be true.  Again, it's so broad that I fear you're trying to make a point that isn't going to follow.

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6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

Bleh.  

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7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

Spirits don't exist.

Sometimes, great minds with great ideas have encountered violent opposition from weak minds.  Damn near nobody violently opposed Apple when they released the IPhones, so I think this has to be FALSE.

But... if you mean to say that there's a lot of opposition when philosophers start messing with the status quo of regimes which benefit those in charge... duh.

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8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

Monkeys have very poor reasoning skills concerning religion, since... well... it's beyond their ability to comprehend.  Monkey politics are often quite violent, and seem to be approximately equivalent to human politics in many ways.

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9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

Search me, fella!  From what point of view?  To what end?  This kind of question can't be answered without more context.

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10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

Both could be true.  Both could be false.  Kind of hard to say with certainty.

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11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

Not universally, no.

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12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

Is this a sentence, or a word jumble?

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13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

Was she in that zombie movie set in a mall?

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14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

True.

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15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

Ooooh... just looked it up.  Hadn't heard of it before.  That is pretty damn neat.

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16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

Is this a TV commercial for Wikipedia?

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17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

Oh god, NO!!!!  This is too coherent to be David Mabus... Don't say his name two more times, though.

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18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

I don't think Jesus existed, so false.

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19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

I don't think Moses existed either, so... false.

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20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

That wouldn't surprise me at all, but I don't feel like googling it.

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Be careful before you respond to these statements, if any at all, because you may want to ensure the answers can not be used against you or your beliefs. Humans... the one animal that will opine at no charge.

Since all of my answers were typed while my tongue was firmly embedded in my cheek, I ain't skeer'd.

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It was worth it for me, since I discovered wikiquote.

Thanks.

 

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Kapkao wrote:13. Helena

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13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

false, because she's been dead for quite some time.

besides, what do you mean by "whore"?  was she sexually promiscuous?  if she was, it's news to me, but that doesn't necessarily qualify someone for "whore."  i think the lady has to turn a profit to merit that appellation.

poor mme. blavatsky was a proto-hippy of sorts, but she was an interesting and original synthesist.  i think she misunderstood buddhism in some respects, but then again so do i.

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Concerning Jesus..

Well either he didn't exist..

OR

He is the most cleverest illusionist ever-est! Thus making you think he didn't exist. 


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Another clarification on the

Another clarification on the OT: There IS NO right or wrong answers here. "Truth or False" is simply a rhetorical trick, to get the most blunt and genuine responses possible.

RatDog wrote:

1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

I don't know

I don't either, but probably true, as we are quite ready to destroy each other over TRIVIAL bs today, we know how Chimpanzees behave today, and we know a little of what happens when Neanderthals and humans come into contact with each other...

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2. Humanism is over-rated

No

3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

I don't know what your talking about

Allow me to specify (before this thread inevitably gets moved.)

"Humanity" (however you define it) will adopt qualities that are both "good" and "evil" (or however those words translate to other faiths) , and eventually try to adopt that which is "good". We do this a little better than some animals, but I'm not sure about all.

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4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

Depends on the human.

Of course.

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5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

Maybe

There isn't so much of a maybe on this... seeing mammals and birds in the wild, and their mating behaviors, we see that being fit (having the right feathers/coat, no limps or gimps, no "Cyclops" animals) is as necessary to survival of animals as being "normal" is important to us.

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6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

I have no opinion on this

7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

I'm not a real history buff.  

8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

I don't know how well monkeys reason.

Taking care of elderlies (respect thou mother and thou father), ripping apart other males over female members of the herd(machismo!), destroying foreign scents with urine and sprayed pheramones (pissing on other people's shit/beliefs/property/behavior), et cetera.

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9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

I don't know

10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

Like I said, I don't know much about history.

11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

Define what you mean by worst and best.

12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

that isn't really how I would define Terrorism.  I would define terrorism as the use of violent terror tactics in an attempt to bring about political change.    based on my definition I would say yes.  

That quote was from Vladimir Lenin.

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13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

I don't know her

This is the "scryer" that told Hitler about the Aryan Race, the Swastika symbol normally used by buddhists, and that he was "The One".

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14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

In christ kid are you talking about a specific christ kid or christion children in general? 

Bad Boy Bubby; an Australian film made by a Dutch-Australian atheist (forget his name). He held a white-hot resentment for the Nuclear Family.

 

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For shits and giggles...

15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

I've never used it.

16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

who?

Jimbo Wales. (Second) Founder of wikipedia, based off Nupedia. Kind of a cult leader who has undoubtedly applied his website for NGO-status.

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17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

Maybe.

I have the personality trait mentioned above, but not quite the Personality Disorder.

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18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

There isn't really much information about him.

Yeah, the original bible has YET to be found. I suspect someone has it in a vault... or perhaps it is in the Dead Sea.

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19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

I don't know.

The exposure of the strip of land connecting Sinai with Egypt appears to have been destroyed by tidal wave during Moses' Exodus.

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20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

I don't know

 

Here's a REALLY tricky part. TRUE. At some point in the... 90s I believe. A schizophrenic/schizotypal Catholic person jumped in the Lion's den and started reading/shouting bible verses at the lions. Fortunately, he was pulled out in time by zoo employees before the cats gobbled him alive.

Fin. Can I have my science/history freak tag now? I want to wear it around narcissisticly and boast about it to the other members...

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Hambydammit wrote:

 

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1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

True.  

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2. Humanism is over-rated

I think this is a subjective question, but for me, it's true.

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3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

Unquestionably false.

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4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

um... given the right circumstances, true.  Feels like a leading statement/question, though.  Reeks of bias.

RE:of course it's biased. Have you ever met anyone (human) who was 100% objective 100% of the time? It isn't possible currently.

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5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

Generally speaking, I'd say this can be true.  Again, it's so broad that I fear you're trying to make a point that isn't going to follow.

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6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

Bleh.  

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7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

Spirits don't exist.

Sometimes, great minds with great ideas have encountered violent opposition from weak minds.  Damn near nobody violently opposed Apple when they released the IPhones, so I think this has to be FALSE.

But... if you mean to say that there's a lot of opposition when philosophers start messing with the status quo of regimes which benefit those in charge... duh.

RE: Fair enough. iphones... yuck. I guess that means I have a weak mind.

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8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

Monkeys have very poor reasoning skills concerning religion, since... well... it's beyond their ability to comprehend.  Monkey politics are often quite violent, and seem to be approximately equivalent to human politics in many ways.

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9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

Search me, fella!  From what point of view?  To what end?  This kind of question can't be answered without more context.

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10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

Both could be true.  Both could be false.  Kind of hard to say with certainty.

RE: hehehehe... I should've said earlier that there are no right or wrong answers.

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11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

Not universally, no.

RE: Because of firsthand experience, I'm going to have to agree to disagree.

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12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

Is this a sentence, or a word jumble?

RE: It's The Founder of the Soviet Empire. Laughing out loud

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13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

Was she in that zombie movie set in a mall?

RE: ROFL. Possibly.

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14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

True.

Re: HEY! ..... I already knew THAT!

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15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

Ooooh... just looked it up.  Hadn't heard of it before.  That is pretty damn neat.

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16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

Is this a TV commercial for Wikipedia?

RE: no. I treat him like a cult leader... has many loyalists from whom he sucks money and willpower from to which to establish his own Cult of Personality... And wikipedia is far from perfect.

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17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

Oh god, NO!!!!  This is too coherent to be David Mabus... Don't say his name two more times, though.

RE: Har! I don't know who David Mabus is, but Mabius is, to me, what ND proposed to be the Third Antichrist.

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18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

I don't think Jesus existed, so false.

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19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

I don't think Moses existed either, so... false.

Re: see my response above.

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20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

That wouldn't surprise me at all, but I don't feel like googling it.

Re: HA!

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Be careful before you respond to these statements, if any at all, because you may want to ensure the answers can not be used against you or your beliefs. Humans... the one animal that will opine at no charge.

Since all of my answers were typed while my tongue was firmly embedded in my cheek, I ain't skeer'd.

RE:.... I see.

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(and yes, I registered just to post this)

It was worth it for me, since I discovered wikiquote.

Thanks.

 

I like this post. It boosts my ego. Or perhaps Superego. *shrug*

 

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1. True2. True3. False4.

1. True

2. True

3. False

4. False

5. False

6. True

7. True

8. True

9. False

10. False

11. False

12. False

13. False

14. True

For shits and giggles...

15. False

16. False

17. False

18. False

19. False

20. True

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iwbiek wrote:Kapkao

iwbiek wrote:

Kapkao wrote:

13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

false, because she's been dead for quite some time.

besides, what do you mean by "whore"?  was she sexually promiscuous?  if she was, it's news to me, but that doesn't necessarily qualify someone for "whore."  i think the lady has to turn a profit to merit that appellation.

poor mme. blavatsky was a proto-hippy of sorts, but she was an interesting and original synthesist.  i think she misunderstood buddhism in some respects, but then again so do i.

Perhaps, but she DID turn a profit by exaggerating her abilities... and, sure enough, found herself mixed up in the wrong crowd. The people who prostitute their objectivity to the highest bidder... they aren't all that reliable. (and their ARE a lot of these individuals.)

Poor, pitiful me.... or her, for commiting character suicide.

“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)


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Marquis wrote:1. True2.

Marquis wrote:

1. True

2. True

3. False

4. False

5. False

6. True

7. True

8. True

9. False

10. False

11. False

12. False

13. False

14. True

For shits and giggles...

15. False

16. False

17. False

18. False

19. False

20. True

"Good answer(s)"

I'm starting to like this town i've moved into (metaphor)

 

“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)


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Kapkao wrote:iwbiek

Kapkao wrote:

iwbiek wrote:

Kapkao wrote:

Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

what do you mean by "whore"?


Poor, pitiful me.... or her, for commiting character suicide.

 

I would have fucked her. That makes her a whore; because I refuse to fuck anything but fine, seasoned whores.

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Kapkao wrote:iwbiek

Kapkao wrote:

iwbiek wrote:

Kapkao wrote:

13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

false, because she's been dead for quite some time.

besides, what do you mean by "whore"?  was she sexually promiscuous?  if she was, it's news to me, but that doesn't necessarily qualify someone for "whore."  i think the lady has to turn a profit to merit that appellation.

poor mme. blavatsky was a proto-hippy of sorts, but she was an interesting and original synthesist.  i think she misunderstood buddhism in some respects, but then again so do i.

Perhaps, but she DID turn a profit by exaggerating her abilities... and, sure enough, found herself mixed up in the wrong crowd. The people who prostitute their objectivity to the highest bidder... they aren't all that reliable. (and their ARE a lot of these individuals.)

Poor, pitiful me.... or her, for commiting character suicide.

 

 

btw, is that DIABLO i see???

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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1: There is no line between humans and animals. Humans are animals. Other than that, true.

2: Subjective.

3: Humanity is a self correcting mechanism?

4: False.

5: Sometimes.

6, 7 & 8: Subjective.

9: Unfamiliar with the event.

10: No idea.

11: Subjective.

12: Generalisation.

13: Who?

14: Eh?

15: False.

16: Who?

17: Impossible to determine.

18, 19, & 20: Maybe.

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Well either he didn't exist..

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He is the most cleverest illusionist ever-est! Thus making you think he didn't exist.

Nah.  You're forgetting some more possibilities.  It's not just either/or.  He could also have existed and been a shoddy illusionist with a great press agent.  He could have been nothing like the stories that were written about him half a century after his death.  He could have just been a preacher, and all the shit about him coming back might have been made up after his death.

I believe he didn't exist for two main reasons:

1) There is absolutely no contemporary evidence for his existence whatsoever.  Not a scrap.

2) There are compelling arguments for viewing the gospel accounts as legendary literature, not attempts at history.  (Including, but not limited to the observation that pretty much every trope in the Gospels can be traced back to earlier literature.)

 

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11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

 

Not universally, no.

RE: Because of firsthand experience, I'm going to have to agree to disagree.

You've had first hand experience with every human who's ever lived?!?  Amazing!!

 

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1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)

True

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2. Humanism is over-rated

False, saving the pandas is over-rated, humanism well putting myself as the most important thing works for me Sticking out tongue

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3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today

False, we are still at war, doing stupid things, letting stupid people breed etc, etc, etc

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4. A human can and will kill almost anything that isn't like them

True to the first part false to the second part

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5. Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate someone who isn't like another human

False Genocide arises from the desire to eliminate a group of people based on their ethnic. cultural or religious background to which those committing the genocide view them as either undesirables, sub-humans or view themselves superior to those groups.

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6. Peace is the dream of the wise. War is the way of man.

True

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7. Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from weak minds.

true/false even the weak minds have encountered violent opposition from other weak minded people

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8. I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.

I have to say that at times I agree with that statement. I am neutral on this one Laughing out loud

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9. Pope Innocent III was right to reestablish the authority of the Vatican over Feudal Europe.

True, he had the power and he did it, Of course it could be false depending on your view

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10. Mohammed was a pedophile barbarian, not a traveler who had a marriage with a six year-old arranged for him by a tribe member.

True at least according to the Q'uran and my personal views on it.

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11. A person will give in to their worst impulses, before giving in to their best ones.

False based on personal experiences with other humans

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12. The Congress decisively rejects terrorism, i.e., the system of individual political assassinations, as being a method of political struggle which is most inexpedient at the present time, diverting the best forces from the urgent and imperatively necessary work of organization and agitation, destroying contact between the revolutionaries and the masses of the revolutionary classes of the population, and spreading both among the revolutionaries themselves and the population in general utterly distorted ideas of the aims and methods of struggle against the autocracy.

False, publicly they do, but privately it's fine with them.

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13. Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

False she was a con artist...not to sure about the whore part.

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14. Christ kid, you're a weirdo!

For shits and giggles...

True I am Laughing out loud

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15. Wikiquote is your newest best friend!

False, the Ginger woman down the street and her brunet sister are my newest best friends Laughing out loud

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16. Jimmy Wales is your Idol.

False. never heard of Jimmy Wales

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17. Nostradamus had Schizotypal Personality Disorder.

False, con-man and just plain crazy

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18. Jesus was a clever illusionist

False, jesus is a clever illusion

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19. Moses was a hermit madman who scared even polytheistic Egyptians

False Moses is just a character out of the bible/torah, as such he never scared the Egyptians.

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20. A crazy Filipino adult once jumped in to a lion's pen at a zoo, and tried to convert the lions to Christianity.

True, I have seen even more odd things.


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Marquis wrote:Kapkao

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Kapkao wrote:

iwbiek wrote:

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Helena Blavatsky is an occult, vile Russian whore.

what do you mean by "whore"?

 

Poor, pitiful me.... or her, for commiting character suicide.

 

I would have fucked her. That makes her a whore; because I refuse to fuck anything but fine, seasoned whores.

Ultimately, irrelevant.

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I'm going to need Ultraedit for this... hold-on.... done!

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1. Man has killed Man from the beginning of the species' existence. (I say species' because we know of our somewhat more distantly related Hominid cousins... the ones that blur the often thin line between Animal and Human)



"True"

RE: It is also possible (but highly unlikely) that we saved certain species  from extinction UNTIL NOW so that we might consume them for whatever selfish purposes we can currently imagine (Read: Bushmeat Trade)

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2. Humanism is over-rated



False, saving the pandas is over-rated, humanism well putting myself as the most important thing works for me Sticking out tongue

RE: I do not put myself or my species as the most important thing in the universe, and... considering that much of the universe remains to be observed, it becomes beyond foolish to assume that. Then, there's the theory of parallel universes... some in which the laws of physics as we know them become nonexistant. You must also consider, tha Man can very easily destroy Himself, and prevent the rising of intelligent organisms for eons to come. (Read: Space Catapult, Area Denial Weapons)

Humanism is simply inane at this point in time, even if "God is dead" (Freiderich Neitzsche)
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3. Humanity is the best self-correcting mechanism known today



False, we are still at war, doing stupid things, letting stupid people breed etc, etc, etc

RE: Good point. And with that, I take a break for a while, until I build up another mental reserve.
 

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RE: Good point. And with that, I take a break for a while, until I build up another mental reserve.
 

man, your avatars get worse and worse.

diablo was cool, hannibal lecter was rather lame and derivative, but al pacino from devil's advocate???  the only thing diabolical about that movie was its general lousiness!  i remember i kept expecting the devil to go "hoo-ah!"

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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iwbiek wrote:Kapkao

iwbiek wrote:

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RE: Good point. And with that, I take a break for a while, until I build up another mental reserve.
 

man, your avatars get worse and worse.

diablo was cool, hannibal lecter was rather lame and derivative, but al pacino from devil's advocate???  the only thing diabolical about that movie was its general lousiness!  i remember i kept expecting the devil to go "hoo-ah!"

/sarcasm 1

Oh yes, existentialism is generally a lousy concept, especially when thrown into the virulent mix of that incredibly fickle phenomena known as entertainment.

I suppose, when all else fails, one can simply put on a Blundercats avatar and attempt self-fornication all the while posting on one messageboard or another.

/sarcasm 0

Your critique has been duely noted... and summarily dismissed...

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Well either he didn't exist..

OR

He is the most cleverest illusionist ever-est! Thus making you think he didn't exist.

Nah.  You're forgetting some more possibilities.  It's not just either/or.  He could also have existed and been a shoddy illusionist with a great press agent.  He could have been nothing like the stories that were written about him half a century after his death.  He could have just been a preacher, and all the shit about him coming back might have been made up after his death.

I believe he didn't exist for two main reasons:

1) There is absolutely no contemporary evidence for his existence whatsoever.  Not a scrap.

2) There are compelling arguments for viewing the gospel accounts as legendary literature, not attempts at history.  (Including, but not limited to the observation that pretty much every trope in the Gospels can be traced back to earlier literature.)

 

1.  Correct, no contemporary evidence whatsoever. There is, however, quite a bit of empirical evidence, including a Hebrew Prince who tried to murder several jewish babies/toddlers, including the Christian Messiah.

2. I would be interested in learning about such arguments... and yes, the gospels read like an endless string of folk tales and Roman Empire-age era type legends.

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Hambydammit

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Well either he didn't exist..

OR

He is the most cleverest illusionist ever-est! Thus making you think he didn't exist.

Nah.  You're forgetting some more possibilities.  It's not just either/or.  He could also have existed and been a shoddy illusionist with a great press agent.  He could have been nothing like the stories that were written about him half a century after his death.  He could have just been a preacher, and all the shit about him coming back might have been made up after his death.

I believe he didn't exist for two main reasons:

1) There is absolutely no contemporary evidence for his existence whatsoever.  Not a scrap.

2) There are compelling arguments for viewing the gospel accounts as legendary literature, not attempts at history.  (Including, but not limited to the observation that pretty much every trope in the Gospels can be traced back to earlier literature.)

 

1.  Correct, no contemporary evidence whatsoever. There is, however, quite a bit of empirical evidence, as well as a Hebrew Prince who tried to murder several jewish babies/toddlers, including the Christian Messiah.

2. I would be interested in learning about such arguments... and yes, the gospels read like an endless string of folk tales and Roman Empire-age era type legends.

“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)


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Kapkao wrote:iwbiek

Kapkao wrote:

iwbiek wrote:

Kapkao wrote:


RE: Good point. And with that, I take a break for a while, until I build up another mental reserve.
 

man, your avatars get worse and worse.

diablo was cool, hannibal lecter was rather lame and derivative, but al pacino from devil's advocate???  the only thing diabolical about that movie was its general lousiness!  i remember i kept expecting the devil to go "hoo-ah!"

/sarcasm 1

Oh yes, existentialism is generally a lousy concept, especially when thrown into the virulent mix of that incredibly fickle phenomena known as entertainment.

I suppose, when all else fails, one can simply put on a Blundercats avatar and attempt self-fornication all the while posting on one messageboard or another.

/sarcasm 0

Your critique has been duely noted... and summarily dismissed...

you sure put me in my place, hoss....

 

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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you sure put me in my place, hoss....

 

I can play this stupid game of yours all day and night, and not even feel tired.... but I've got better things to do with my time. Chat with ya later, maybe?

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