The bible and foreshadowing science
Posted on: May 16, 2010 - 9:00pm
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The bible and foreshadowing science
http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/The_Bible_Foreshadows_Scientific_Discoveries
Has anyone seen this site? What are your thoughts?
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Who ever organized the site seems to have a realistic attitude about the difference between science and religion. I didn't read beyond the first several paragraphs, they are still deluded by a fairy tale. That's enough for me NOT to bother with the site again.
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I am now converted and it was this line that, at long last, proved to me god is all over science. Secret wisdom. Cool.
We speak a message of wisdom...but not the wisdom of this age...we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
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I've briefly looked at the site and didn't see anything new that they can offer. At least they seem to be modest in their rhetoric.
The main word there is 'shadow'. I think it's kind of telling that this biblical insight never actually leads to any scientific discoveries. It's always in retrospect, once science has done all the hard work, that they come and whine "Look! It was foretold in the bible!".
I hope you don't mind but I posted this in the Mayan/Sumerian conspiracy thread to try to show Aiden that his claim was not special and he was doing the same thing as the people at this website. It is merely looking for something you want to see.
A couple of classic quotes I have seen before that are on this website....one talks about "stretching"(they claim the universe.)
But "stretching" means being pulled and the expansion of the universe is neither pushing or pulling but INFLATING.
And the "circle" Which they claim that the writers of the bible knew it was round. A circle is round, true, but they mention nothing about a BALL or globe, it just calls it a circle. A music CD has the shape of a circle AND is flat. Funny how humans once thought the earth was flat.
I spent a couple sleepless nights a few years back challenging myself to lose my fear of bible quotes to see if this guy could stump me. But with every verse what I found was the same. The guy was reading things into the verse that weren't there, or the verse was patently scientifically absurd.
I do not fear challenging these people on science claims or prophecy claims for that matter. They are merely back peddling because science is putting it in the proper category of myth where it belongs.
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It's one of my friends "proofs" of gods existence. The more I look at it, the more it seems ridiculous. I'm just new at the refuting xians on their claims, so its nice to get some extra input. It helps raise my confidence.
Thanks!
I found this web site about the bible and a flat earth. I thought it was really informative.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm
Anarchism is the only philosophy which brings to man the consciousness of himself; which maintains that God, the State, and society are non-existent, that their promises are null and void, since they can be fulfilled only through man's subordination. Anarchism is therefore the teacher of the unity of life; not merely in nature, but in man.
Emma Goldman
Yes, I read it a few months ago. The problem I had with it is that all they are doing is taking advantage of the ambiguity of the way the Bible is written. The things that they read could be interpreted in countless different ways. Its not surprising that it is possible to make facts compatible with incredibly ambiguous statements.
edit: the only way that this would impress me is if the given interpretations were widely accepted before science made its discoveries
I don't understand why the Christians I meet find it so confusing that I care about the fact that they are wasting huge amounts of time and resources playing with their imaginary friend. Even non-confrontational religion hurts atheists because we live in a society which is constantly wasting resources and rejecting rational thinking.
This is an unfortunate growing tactic among all religions because of mundane human narcissism . If it feels real and the idea of something feeling good is popular, it can't be wrong. This is the same crap that allows new age "healing" and Scientology pop up.
It is nothing more than retrofitting after the fact.
I once had debates with Muslims, one quoted "mountains moving" in the Koran as proving that Mohammad knew about plate techtonics. Another Muslim quoted "congealed blood" as proof of Mohammad's knowledge of female reproduction as evidence that Allah picks the sex of the baby.
ALL bullshit. It is bullshit to take any ancient myth and try to prop it up with modern science,
Lets say someone came up to you and quoted hieroglphics "Look see the depiction of "sun rays" coming of off Rey. That is proof the Egyptians knew about solar flairs."
That is what deluded people do. They prefer defending the absurd because of the emotional appeal of being right, rather than do the intellectually honest thing and test what they claim to be sure.
The difference between religion and scientific method, is that religion has to be defended to survive. Scientific method isn't about defending something, it is about TESTING and demands the rigors of testing to insure quality of data.
Now that more and more humans are realizing this, they are desperately trying to infuse the two so that they don't have to give up their placebo. This movement among religions of all labels is nothing different than a kid refusing to face the reality that Santa isn't real.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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