The Terrible Music of God

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The Terrible Music of God

 

The decline in both the popularity and the credibility of the Christian church can be directly linked, I believe, to its music. Where once songs of praise were unparalleled for wonder and mysterious beauty, today’s music of God - piped this season through the speakers at selected shopping malls - is a banal and spineless jingle from the very worst of commercial radio. Inspiring none but the selectively deaf who are too blissed out to care about judging music on its actual merit, the modern hymn is a song of praise to the self, a gift not to Him but to the God of entertainment and the gutless spirit of community arts. That this could have happened to one of the most majestic artforms in history is a 20th century catastrophe. 

Once upon a time, the very dynamic of Christian iconography was awe-inspiring - the art, architecture and music combined to create a sense of belittlement, to impress upon humankind its insignificance under the might and mystery of the heavens. This presented artists with an irresistable challenge and the results speak for themselves - witness the angelic perfection of Gabriel Faure or Anton Bruckner, the power of Giuseppe Verdi, the sheer terror of György Ligeti, or the serene beatitude of the the monks of the Abbey of Notre Dame. It’s undeniably moving and, even for an atheist like me, it’s possible to be spiritually shifted by such stuff.

But something awful happened in the post-war period. Inspired by the big “hello” to Modernism that was the Second Vatican Council, elements within the Church decided it was time for Catholics to get funky. Church architecture was thus stripped down to what Paul Mees described as a “basketball-court blandness”, in keeping with Vatican II’s apparent edict that the Church participate in “a strong welcome to the art of today”, with a move away from “the monumental and pretentious” in favour of “an honest, functional style” - from this to this, basically.

All wonder having been plucked from our eyes, the attentions of God’s ambassadors on Earth then turned upon our ears. They found useful allies in the Jesus movement, a frightful amalgam of charismatic evangelism and the hippie culture of the 1960s. To the “Jesus freaks”, as they were often called, God was ultimately unknowable, an elitist old square whose wrath was all over the oppressive trappings of the traditional Church, while Jesus was cool because he had long hair, hung out with prostitutes and was basically unemployed. It was their mission to commune with the son, not the father, and to bring Christianity back to barefoot basics - a fine idea if such threadbare Calvinism were so sincere as to have kept itself modestly private. But there’s no point in being born again if nobody’s going to see and hear about it, and so, armed with guitars, tambourines and inoperable cases of tone deafness, a merciless crusade of Jesus music began bulldozing its way through hundreds of years of Christian musical culture. 

So was put in motion the only lamentable forfeiture of the rock and roll revolution: the obliteration of the artform of traditional holy music from the cultural stage. Rock and roll itself didn’t cost the mainstream music world terribly much, Elvis’s rebellion usurping but a chart packed with matinee idols, big-budget Broadway stars and aging Tin Pan Alley leftovers. Christian music, however, by trading tradition for rock, lost everything it had - original grandeur, other-worldliness, orchestral and choral genius - in exchange for the emaciated zombie of rock and roll, a corpse necessarily drained of the very things that had made it interesting in life: sex and drugs.

Anyone who was a church-going kid in the 70s will remember the oncomming plague of the “rock mass”, in which the stirring works of Bach, Henry Lyte, Lowell Mason and Handel were either brushed aside or - worse - mangled by pious hooligans with guitar, bass and drums. It was all very DIY, manufactured to make us all feel a bit closer to the Almighty and more involved in the Church, and it was a novel change, I guess. But it never went away, never died with the hippies that gave birth to it. And now we’re stuck with the likes of Hillsong, an eternal jukebox of limp-wristed, soft-focus, sing-a-long junk authored by children of a movement whose very creed said that monument and ornament didn’t matter. If so, why not shut the $#@& up and leave the music to those who think it does?

Enthuses Kim Jones:

“Up until the late 1960s, Christian music invoked images of church, hymnals and organs. Traditional was the word of the day...but not anymore. The face of Christian music has spent the last 30+ years evolving and growing. Pipe organs have been set aside for electric guitars and drums. Hymnals have been replaced by hard hitting lyrics that speak of today and a God that is fully in control of our times.”

What crap. As if the vain and vengeful God of the Old Testament could possibly be “in control’"of a soundtrack that painted him as a yacht rock enthusiast. As if the God who demanded such elaborate displays of love and praise from his subjects would actually prefer to be entertained by some feral buskers rather than Le Mystere des voix Bulgares. As if the God who insisted on the slaughter of millions, sometimes for the most insignificnt of infractions, would be satisfied abandoning his throne of supreme discrimination for a seat as some sympathetic judge on Australian Idol. God is huge, supernatural, mysterious, powerful, and the Bible is nothing if not a book of demands that we impress Him ceaselessly and humbly. That the music that so perfectly represented his strange omipotence has been bent over and buggered on the stage of celebrity by our weird and childish need to be ‘entertainers’ must make Him hot with fleas. 

“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind,” was His message.

If I were Him, and someone who claimed to love me gave me a Hillsong CD for Christmas, I’d wonder what I’d done to offend them. 

 

By Jack Marx

 

http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/the_terrible_music_of_god/

 

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Dude!... You're nuts!....

Dude!... You're nuts!.... How can you knock Christian Music when they Rock like This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

 


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I can do better than that Rich:

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Dude!... You're nuts!.... How can you knock Christian Music when they Rock like This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

 

 

I am not a specialist in gays, but why this is what comes to my mind when I look at the moves of the two guitar guys dancing in this clip?


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 In the memory of Jesus the

 In the memory of Jesus the Christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42ycMkAhVs


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100percentAtheist wrote: In

100percentAtheist wrote:

 In the memory of Jesus the Christ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w42ycMkAhVs

 

Ah yes!  and who could forget this:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqC73omSk4o

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Go shopping lately?  We

Go shopping lately?  We went grocery shopping today.  Groceries.  How mundane is that?  Went to three places, and before we had left the first store, we were sick of the music and both of us had headaches.

Okay, at home, we have music to get through the holidays.  Dr. Demento Presents: Greatest Christmas Novelty CD.  The Chieftains - Bells of Dublin.  So you don't like the Chieftains, but you gotta listen to this one.  This particular artist does a good job with the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuisenFO96o&playnext=1&list=PL8D3E3FEFA46BD896&index=2

We don't usually celebrate St Stephen's Day in the US, but I can sure relate to the family dinner scene.

For tradition, we have Nat King Cole's The Christmas Song album.

And for not so tradition, we have A Winter's Solstice by Windham Hill Artists.  The first one from 1990.  I don't think the later ones are as good.  Starts with a guitar solo of Bach's Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring.  For sitting in front of the fire - or air conditioner - with a tall glass of your favorite.

Or Stan Rogers, At Last I'm Ready for Christmas, on his From Coffee House to Concert Hall CD.  Available as a mp3 download on Amazon.  Great CD.

 

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Great OP, and I agree

Great OP, and I agree 100%.

My favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11pG9ARyzwE

...eventhough the words are meaningless to me now, I still love his voice and the music.

This one still makes me cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2eSfKqMRbA

Someone sang it at my fathers funeral. 

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Sandycane wrote: Great OP,

Sandycane wrote:

Great OP, and I agree 100%.

My favorite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11pG9ARyzwE

...eventhough the words are meaningless to me now, I still love his voice and the music.

This one still makes me cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2eSfKqMRbA

Someone sang it at my fathers funeral. 

 

I remember him, though I didn't watch the TV show when I was young.  Here is my favorite female singer - I didn't know she had been on his show.

 

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cj wrote: I remember him,

cj wrote:
 

I remember him, though I didn't watch the TV show when I was young.  Here is my favorite female singer - I didn't know she had been on his show.

That's fantastic! If tv still had shows like that, I'd still be watching it. Nothing much good on now except the old re-runs and some movies. (Yikes! There's my mother in me again!)

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Tennessee Ernie

He was way before my time. But every time I see him, I remember him on that episode of I Love Lucy (I actually thought that show was funny, my mother used to watch all the re-runs when I was a kid.)

But I think everyone knows the famous line by Ernie Ford that says :

You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.

Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go

I owe my soul to the company store.

 

Oddly enough, British punk-rock band the Clash actually covered this tune and even named a tour after it.

 

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harleysportster wrote:He was

harleysportster wrote:

He was way before my time. But every time I see him, I remember him on that episode of I Love Lucy (I actually thought that show was funny, my mother used to watch all the re-runs when I was a kid.)

But I think everyone knows the famous line by Ernie Ford that says :

You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.

Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go

I owe my soul to the company store.

 

Oddly enough, British punk-rock band the Clash actually covered this tune and even named a tour after it.

 

I knew all the words to that song when I was very young - 4? 5?  I remember singing it for my grandmother's sisters.  I'll have to see if I can find the Clash version.

I don't watch TV anymore, either.  South Park is stupid, The Simpsons is worse, I am not interested in sports, I get the news on the internet.  Reality shows?  meh.

 

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The worst Xmas music I had

The worst Xmas music I had to put up with was coming over the speakers in a hotel in Moscow near Red Square.

It was all the common Xmas stuff, but sounded like it was played on a toy piano or xylophone, or perhaps generated electronically with a really simple program or gadget.

 

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The only xmas music I like

The only xmas music I like is from kid shows. Rudolf and frosty the snowman! I have thise old shows on dvd. My son loves em!

On the other hand the only christian song I ever care about ( sentimental ) was amazing grace. It was my grandmothers favorite hymn and if I ever worshiped anything before my kids, it was her. She's been gone for 13 years and every time I hear that it makes me tear up.

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My favorite x-mas song.

One of few song that I like and it is ... well about Christmas.

http://www.mojnet.com/video-billy-mack-love-actually-christmas-is-all-around/b44cb1f0db46f87836f4

 


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Last night I have learned

Last night I have learned that my daughter likes LadyGaga, thinks that Marylin Mason is a devil, and that Freddy Mercury's songs are fake. 

... no more internet for her for a while...

 

 


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Atheistextremist wrote:

Once upon a time, the very dynamic of Christian iconography was awe-inspiring - the art, architecture and music combined to create a sense of belittlement, to impress upon humankind its insignificance under the might and mystery of the heavens. This presented artists with an irresistable challenge and the results speak for themselves - witness the angelic perfection of Gabriel Faure or Anton Bruckner, the power of Giuseppe Verdi, the sheer terror of György Ligeti, or the serene beatitude of the the monks of the Abbey of Notre Dame. It’s undeniably moving and, even for an atheist like me, it’s possible to be spiritually shifted by such stuff.

http://blogs.news.com.au/jackmarxlive/index.php/news/comments/the_terrible_music_of_god/

 

 

In part, I kinda get what the writer of this article was saying in the OP.

 

When it comes to Christmas music, I generally have the same opinion of it as Bob had of that Moscow cacophony : sheer torture.

However, I do remember Dawkin's touching upon music in the God Delusion. He mentioned that several of his favorite pieces were theistic in nature but the music was appealing to him and the meaning of the words were somewhat unimportant.

Now me personally, my favorite styles of music (metal and alternative) do not have any religious nature to them. But I like the tunes because of the sounds before I ever understood any of the lyrics.

However, like the OP article was stating, there is a certain beauty to the more classical pieces for me. Even if they do have that theistic undercurrent to them.

Oddly enough, I have always had an affinity for all things medieval (pretty weird for a biker trash dude like myself, but oh well, hehehe).

For some reason, all art, music, architecture, literature and anything that has to do with the Middle Ages has always fascinated me. Granted, Europe was under the iron control of "Christendom" in the Middle Ages and  almost everything in the spectrums of art have some sort of Christian influence on it (even though alot of these "influences" are mere rip-offs of the pagan religions before them) and all the Gregorian chants were products of the early Christians (Not really big on Gregorian chants, the only time that I have liked the sound of those was when experimental music groups like Enigma and Era used them in conjunction with other soundscapes, they sounded cool then). But the fact that this was a dark period in human history, ruled by the superstition of the church and witness to alot of cruelty by the church does not prevent me from being fascinated by it.

Now granted, someone might listen to the sounds of Ligeti and think that "god" is  talking to them. But I know that it is just a mere arrangement of notes and sounds that effects my brain a certain way upon hearing it that causes the fascination and nothing more.

Their is really nothing all of that mysterious, or awe inspiring, about any sort of music, it's all about the arrangements and how they effect the listener.

But the whole notion of Christian rock and christian metal is just too ludicrous for me to accept. Maybe it is because of a lifetime of listening to Slayer, Obituary, Napalm Death, Pantera, and Sepultura that makes me unable to even remotely listen to some theistic "rocking for jesus " bullshit.

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This is my favorite version,

This is my favorite version, of my favorite Christmas song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1-2xmSQ0w


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Rich Woods wrote:This is my

Rich Woods wrote:

This is my favorite version, of my favorite Christmas song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT1-2xmSQ0w

That's a good one.

Can't forget Grandma   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTHxMjVivg

 

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Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare


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Actually I think this is the one of the best musics in the Christian curriculum. A master piece from Gregorio Allegri 

 

Did you know that this song was forbidden for many years outside the Vatican and that was only played at the Sistine chapel during easter or something?

Mozart was passing by Italy that time and he decided to go and hear the music out. He recorded it all in his head and reproduced it!

Everyone thought that he was going for the stake for such a heresy

Instead the pope praised his musical talent! 

This is a wonderfull and a magical piece of music, I love it very much.


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Teralek wrote: Actually I

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Actually I think this is the one of the best musics in the Christian curriculum. A master piece from Gregorio Allegri 

Did you know that this song was forbidden for many years outside the Vatican and that was only played at the Sistine chapel during easter or something?

Mozart was passing by Italy that time and he decided to go and hear the music out. He recorded it all in his head and reproduced it!

Everyone thought that he was going for the stake for such a heresy

Instead the pope praised his musical talent! 

This is a wonderfull and a magical piece of music, I love it very much.

 

Thank you for posting it.  It is very lovely music and some fantastic photography to back it up.

I like liturgical music - especially the kind that attempts to be "celestial".  Clear, clean, crystalline. 

 

 

 

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