nono, you're equating 'no purpose' with 'no cause' there's a difference. It may seem like a simple play of words, but it's not. There's a huge difference in meaning. THere are plenty of causes, you just have to know where to look. Eventuallly it boils down to the subatomic which I'm certainly not any authority to discuss. It's like...knowing how a locamotive works. First you get a general idea, steam pumps pistons that move the wheels. Then you get deeper. How is the steam produced? What is Steam? How do you get the correct pressure? etc. etc. all the way down to the tiniest properties of all the parts. It's a HUGE amount of information to take in, but there are plenty of causes. Blind selection though, is without PURPOSE. And I KNOW that there's a growing following of ID. And a major part of the reason for the growing number is the public is being decieved on evolution versus ID. ID is NOT a valid scientific theory. Anyone with any authority on the subject will confirm that little fact. It has never been endorsed by any major scientific organization of note. Organizations funded by religious groups that want to prove their side true do not count. Only totally public institutions that are recognised as unbiased observers(which is what a scientist is anyway) can be used to defend ID as a legit theory. I'm saying that in the SCIENTIFIC community, there is no rift. Those that understand the mechanics, the evidence and facts of both sides invariably come to the conclusion that ID is not a valid theory. And once again, get PURPOSE and CAUSE correct. There's plenty fo cause, no purpose, or at least none that can be determined as of yet. The closest I can come so far is that we exist for the procreation of our DNA, which has a lifespan of approximately 10,000 years. But that leads to more questions like, what's the purpose of the DNA's existance? etc. etc. we don't have all the answers, and we're willing to admit that we don't. And only when we do so can we increase our knowledge and answer those pressing questions. Anyway, i didn't mean to rant, but I hope that I have cleared up that little problem between cause and purpose. And, perhaps the movie actually said 'cause', in which case you may be taking it out of context and accidentally misrepresenting it or the video is incorrect, there are plenty of causes, just no purpose as we have found yet. That is a common misconception, and I hope it allows you to inform your argument more next time.

Now that I've perused this thread somewhat and made a few contributions I'd like to revisit the issue: "Humanzy" is asking to be deconverted from his (quasi-agnostic?) acceptance of beliefs that belong on the shelf with Batman, the Odyssey, and Shakespeare (and those latter two at best, as they are great works of literature that stand on their own without gullible and credulous adherents); so far he/she's made a ton of noise about atheist fundamentalism and blowhardiness, but has yet to give a truly compelling argument for entertaining so ludicrous, not to mention obscene, a conception as the supernatural. Humanzy, do us all a favor and get real: wake up and come to reality or don't come harping at us to make you come to it. If you were truly open to our beliefs/lack of beliefs/however you want to put it, you wouldn't have come on here starting this bombastic and pretentious thread. Grow up, dude.

Its not even worth your time Yellow to reply to him. He already lied on another thread saying he wasnt Christian. On this one he is, and on another one he's atheist.

Shhhh, you twit.

Don't tell them that they can lie to themselves and us in the name of God, or else they'll start doing it all the time.....

Oh wait, they already do that, you bastard, what have you unleashed?!?!