Did I read this somewhere or make it up?
Posted on: October 12, 2007 - 11:51pm
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Did I read this somewhere or make it up?
In my humanities class over the summer, we had a discussion about the existance of god and somehow we got onto the "fall of man."
I argued that the christian god, if the fall of man story was true, is flawed. The christian god is supposedly omniscient, omnibenevolent, and omnipotent. If he didn't stop the fall of man because he was suprised by it, the he isn't omniscient. If he was incapable of stopping it, he is not omnipotent. If he was apathetic about the largest tragedy in human history, then he is not omnibenevolent.
(I actually have converted a christian to an athiest with this argument. =D)
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I have read this or simular quite a few times, but I like this nice simple condensed version of yours. It's about perfect. I'm sending this to all my xian friends pronto .... and 100% credit to you for your realization.
P.S. What kind of "vitamins" are you taking ?, I need those ........
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The way I took it growing up in Christianity was that first god made heaven and populated it with angels. Numero Uno of the Angels was Lucifer. He tempted one third of the angels to rebel against god. So god expelled them and then made Earth. Populated it with humans and then unleashed Lucifer, now named Satan, to tempt us to rebel against god. Those that go the way of the rebelious angels share their fate.
So god intentionally unleashed evil on humanity. Therefore he cannot be omnibenevolent. He intended for humanity to fall from grace from the get go.
"I am an atheist, thank God." -Oriana Fallaci
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't from the bible, but rather Paradise Lost.
My Brand New Blog - Jesu Ad Nauseum.
God of the Gaps: As knowledge approaches infinity, God approaches zero. It's introductory calculus.
The Riddle of Epicurus
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
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I've got no idea if it is in "Paradise Lost". Never read it. It's just what I gathered from Sunday School and church sermons growing up.
"I am an atheist, thank God." -Oriana Fallaci
Isn't that funny! It seems the church has trouble remembering which stories come from the holy book and which were interpolated later...
It's as if myths grow without even trying...
Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/
Books about atheism
I posted an answer to this in another thread. the answer I gave was what I figure would be the standard reply to this; specifically, the very last line:
There will be no rebuttals to that in this thread since this is FTA. However, any theists reading this who are willing to rebut this should start a new thread.
Good night, funny man, and thanks for the laughter.
Heck, this is the same church that told me that dirt had DNA, so I don't defend the morons. lol
"I am an atheist, thank God." -Oriana Fallaci
Yay memetics! It was the final nail in the coffin, for me.
That is just jaw-droppingly stupid.
My Brand New Blog - Jesu Ad Nauseum.
God of the Gaps: As knowledge approaches infinity, God approaches zero. It's introductory calculus.