I was just stopped by a group of kids from Liberty University
Yeah, not more than 5 minutes ago. I was walking back from the library and these 3 people were walking towards me and said "Hey, can we ask you something really quick?" and I said sure, not knowing what was coming. They said "About the VT shootings, where do you think you go when you die?" to which i was like "well i'm an athiest, i don't think you go anywhere, thats it". They were kinda shocked, and so I told them how atheism makes everything in my life much more enjoyable given that its the only time i'm here. Then they threw pascal's wager at me, and i asked "which god do i believe in? I'm damed in the eyes of a host of religions no matter what i pick." Then they tried to tell me that I get my morals from god. (i told them that our morals evolved like we did). They went on about how christianity is the only religion that forgives you for your sins and how jesus is the only person for whom all the prophecies came true. I pointed out that there were many other savior gods at the same time as jesus and that his life story was written 40 years at least after his death. (I was practically repeating lines from the movie "The god who wasn't there" It went on for about 10 minutes. I'm not a very confrontational person and so it was nerve-wracking for me. It's only now after i'm out of the heat of the moment that i can think of more arguements. I'm tempted to call campus police. They can come over here and preach, but if I went over to Liberty and talked about atheism, i'd be in jail in a heartbeat. I wish i was better at arguing face to face. My mouth is still dry......
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Sounds to me like you held your own, nervous or not. Good for you.
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I find myself quoting the God Who Wasn't There too. Another great resources for evidence for our cause is www.godisimaginary.com.
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That was very...random...of them.
Sadly it's not random. They do this all the time, but it just had never happend to me before. They feel called by god to come over to our campus and try and convert us. Like i said, it just gets me mad b/c if i went over there i'd be in jail but it's ok for them to come over here. The ironic thing was that i was just coming back from working on a paper about how religion is harmful to society. I had "The god delusion", "The end of faith", "Athiest's Universe", and a copy of "the god who wasn't there" in my backpack. I was just too caught up in the moment to remember. Plus, i had to be somewhere and i didn't have time to read all those books to them.
I doubt that.
Nonetheless, I'm actually pretty jealous of you! I'd like to be put in that situation and make some mistakes. So that I could learn from them and come back stonger later. Kudos. Where you in Lynchburg? You go to school around there?
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I wouldn't be so sure. The liberty university campus police carry guns. They're that wacko that they carry sidearms. And yeah, I go to college at Lynchburg College. It's technically a private christian college, but if it wasn't for the christian flag on the flag pole, and a few sentences on their mission statement, you wouldn't know it. There was one part in the argument I had with them that I messed up. We were talking about the bible and I pulled out the quote from Luke 19:27 where jesus says "bring all those who do not wish me to reign over them as king and slaughter them before me". I couldn't find it. She pulled out her bible and I knew it was Luke 19 something. I just couldn't remember, so I just said something like "well, it might not be in this verson. There are many different versions" (which of course they denied.)
Isn't anyone else even bit repulsed at the fact that they used the VT shootings as part of their conversion methods? That is like saying "About the Holocaust/911, where do you think you go when you die?"
If they really consider such horrifying acts of violence as a way to get more followers, then they should be more concerned about their morals rather than ours.