Hell
WARNING: The following is very offensive. True, but offensive. Realize that I did not write this out of anger, yet only in an attempt to express rationality. It may appear angry or cruel only because it is missing the "sugar coating" of tolerance people expect from controversial essays. However, I hold honesty higher than your feelings, and would feel like a liar if I did not show my frustration and concern in full. So, here it is: uncensored, unadulterated, and unsympathetic truth. Enjoy.
The whole concept of Christian's Belief in Hell baffles me.
I only have a few things to say on this topic, most of which I hope intellectuals have already deduced. Of course, I would have hoped that Christian intellectuals would have deduced that religion and the Bible are huge, idiotic contradictions and turned Atheist, but that hasn’t happened yet, so here I go:
1. Is hell a satisfactory punishment at all? Hell no. Try to imagine this: An eternity of fire and unbearable pain. Far more pain than that felt mentally and physically by all of man kind through all of the ages combined. More pain than all of the victims of the holocaust, and from all of the wars and diseases and crimes. More than all of that combined, and multiplied by millions. Even more than that. An eternity is forever, for those of you that don’t know.
Does ANYONE, regardless of how much pain they caused, disserve that? No. I don’t care who you are, no, they do not. If you believe they do, you are a very, very sick individual. But of course, the Bible says that sinners who go to hell will remain there forever with no chance of redemption.
The idea of the Christian’s Hell is a huge contradictory, because for there to be that Hell, there must be a God. In Christian mythology, God is all knowing, and a very good God who created morals and what is right and wrong. If God is all knowing and all good, than he defiantly would not bestow this punishment on ANYONE. No half-way decent God would, because that would be simply pure evil. And if God is all knowing, he knows that it is pure evil, and he would only do this if he enjoyed it, making him pure evil. Therefore contradicting the Christians view of God, their entire religion, thus also their belief in Hell.
2. Are all sins forgiven in Christianity? Hell no. I am disgusted that most Christians do not know this. Twice in the New Testament, as said to be Jesus Christ’s own words, does the Bible clearly and literally state that there is one unforgivable sin that will damn you eternally without any chance of ever experiencing anything after death than eternal suffering. In the books of Mark and Matthew (as I said in my “Children’s Faith” blog) it is obvious:
"Truly I say unto you, All their sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter: but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin: because they say, 'He has an unclean spirit'." (Book of Mark 3:28-29)
Jesus speaking:
"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." (Book of Matthew 12:30-32)
This is horrendous. Every single sin, from theft to murder and rape, can, and WILL be forgiven by Jesus, except for denying the Holy Spirit. That’s right. Go out and kill that bastard you don’t like across the street. Rape his wife and daughter until they bleed, its okay. Afterward, just beg Jesus for forgiveness and everything’ll be alright. Oh, but didn’t I mention? Atheists will be in hell for their blasphemy. Jesus hates them. They have unclean spirits and are pure evil.
If you are Christian, then you have no choice but to believe this, or accept that you are an idiot. This is the New Testament, so you can’t wave it off with that old “It’s just the old Testament” argument. And you can’t say it’s out of context. Go read it. And you can’t say it’s a metaphor, because Jesus said it very literally, and it’s obvious it is to be taken literally, straight from Jesus’ mouth. So, you have two choices here: One, deny these quotes. That means excusing all credibility to these quotes and passing them off as fiction. That would, however, excuse all credibility to Matt and Mark, since you cannot logically believe anything they say without believing everything they say with the same merit, and therefore discrediting Jesus, and the New Testament, and the whole Bible, and therefore your entire religion, proving you to be a moron. Two, you could hate all Atheists and wish them to burn eternally, just like your Holy Father does. This would, however, make you a terrible person for believing such hateful terrible things about good people, and therefore proving you to be brainwashed and in denial, since these people do not disserve to be hated, and yet you still insist because of an unproven, ridiculous two-thousand year old book.
To put it simply, if you have just read this and are still Christian, you are either incredibly dim-witted or in complete denial of reality, therefore making you insane. This very blog, with the help of you own illogical faith, has irrefutably proven by means of reason that you, as a Christian, are either crazy or stupid. Or both.
Well, that may be enough to prove that, but I just can’t stop today.
3. If you believe in any type of fate, or “God’s great plan”, then that is also a contradiction. As stated before, Christians believe in an all knowing and all loving God. If you also believe in some type of fate, then you must believe that our futures are already planned out (that’s what fate is after all) and therefore whatever happens to us ultimately is what god intended, and our meaning to our lives. If that is true, people who go to Hell were planned and destined to go there by God. That must mean that God created some people specifically to go to hell and burn for all of eternity without chance of redemption. What good god would do this? No good god would. Just as stated in the second paragraph of this essay, God would not do this if he didn’t enjoy it, and if he did enjoy it, he wouldn’t be good, therefore contradicting your belief system, and your entire religion, rendering it useless and completely illogical.
To believe that something as ridiculous as God and Hell is true, you must be very illogical, and basing your life off of something as illogical as that is only the actions of a moron, or a nut job. After reading this blog, you have just eliminated the “ignorant” category of Christian faith. You are not ignorant any more. You have just been presented with the truth, very easily explained and laid out before you. To remain a Christian after this proves, beyond a doubt, that you are either idiotic past comprehension, or out of your little mind with denial and delusion. Those of you who can read, I’d bet you are the later.
Thank you.
"Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.
The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved. Cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and redeemed will drown with shouts of joy the cries and sobs of hell in which happiness will forget misery, where the tears of the lost only increase laughter and double bliss."
- Robert G. Ingersoll
Wilson: "We were afraid that if you found out you solved a case with absolutely no medical evidence you'd think you were God." House: "God doesn't limp."
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I agree. I know the doctrine
I agree. I know the doctrine of Hell was considered by Robert Ingersoll to be among the worst parts of Christianity.
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Xians Seem To Love The Idea
I saw a segment of Datline NBC spotlighting Carlton Pearson who is a 4th geneation fire-and-brimstone Pentecostal preacher. He was a good friend of Oral Roberts. He was at the top of his profession with a huge congregation. He had to build a new church to hold 'em all.
One day he had an epiphany while watching a television report about all the horrible things happening in Africa - the war, the starvation, the atrocities. He heard a voice telling him that those people are already in Hell, that Hell can be here on Earth.
He began preaching this. He preached that in the end, all people will go to heaven. All but a few hundred of his congregation abandoned him. Oral Roberts begged him to mend his ways and then abandoned him. The bank foreclosed on his church when he couldn't make the mortgage payment.
So it seems that the Xians want Hell to exist and Xians want their fellow humans to be damned to Hell for Eternity.
It baffles me why anyone would believe it in the first place, but it's totally beyond my compehension why anyone would want it to be true.
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I don't think it's so much
I don't think it's so much that they want it to be, it's just that the Bible says there is a hell so they believe there is, thus disbelieving everyone that goes against it. They probably didn't think he was a real Christian (he wasn't, really... but then again, no one is).
Wilson: "We were afraid that if you found out you solved a case with absolutely no medical evidence you'd think you were God." House: "God doesn't limp."
If we are wrong about Gods,
If we are wrong about Gods, then I think that scripture proves that jesus had satan in him. Or some evil spirit. If we are wrong about Gods then the bibles God is most certainly a lieing evil spirit or some powerful evil extra dimensional being. Heh.
Thank you for your essay Nick. When I try to point this stuff out I wind up getting angry and frustrated with all the dodges and sandbagging. Did you know that even non-christians I talk to make excuses sometimes? Unbelievable.
I still read the bible and see it all now, but when ever I talk about these things I am angry before I even start. I guess I am still angry of the fact that I was a very pathetic creature when I was a believer.
I hate hell and for a long time I had trouble with it, yet for a long time I burried it under my Faith that God is love and that I thought that I just can't understand God because I am worthless or that I was lacking some how. Or maybe I am lying to myself right now in that back then I really did think it was just and right. I hate the bible.
Great blog Nick. Thanks.
Yes, theists and even
Yes, theists and even atheists can be frusterating, but you must try to keep a cool head. We are trying to get through to them, and to help them, so you must try to be calm and listen. If you listen to them, most the time they'll listen to you, as far as friends are concerned. And, as far as extremists are concerned, nothing pisses them off more than a cool-headed atheist who laughs in their face.
Thanks for the props!
Wilson: "We were afraid that if you found out you solved a case with absolutely no medical evidence you'd think you were God." House: "God doesn't limp."