It was interesting... I was honestly wanting him to show me his claims. I started it in a personal chat so he could talk to me without random comments from people, thinking this would make it easier for him.

voiderest: hey grav what is your claim
garyvit: Sapient is an idiot.
garyvit: That is my main claim.
voiderest: so how is he dumb?
garyvit: How is he not?
voiderest: aren't you the one making the claim here?
garyvit: Yeah.
garyvit: Who says I can't ask questions.
garyvit: ?
voiderest: It looked like you wanted me to prove something
voiderest: So what is an example of him being an dumb?
garyvit: Can you be more specific?
voiderest: Can you give me an example of him being "an idiot."
voiderest: it is your claim to define and give evidence for.
garyvit: I'm really to lazy to talk to you right now.
garyvit: I'm not the one who came to you trying to prove anything: Note this.
voiderest: Grav what are you doing in the room then?
garyvit: Making fun of Sapient, and trying to ruin him more.
garyvit: What are you doing?
voiderest: I started this in a privet chat so you can show me without them saying something against you.
voiderest: I'm here because I enjoy this topic
garyvit: What topic?
voiderest: Showing me how RRS is someone in the wrong with something.
voiderest: somehow*
garyvit: What?
garyvit: Be more specific.
garyvit: With what?
garyvit: The stance on theism?
garyvit: It's unjustified.
garyvit: If you're making a positive "negative claim" you need one hell of an argument.
garyvit: Much more than "there is no evidence"
voiderest: I want you to show me your claim against RRS and show me why I should believe you.
garyvit: That's nothing, that's YOUR reason, but some people habe their own reasons.
garyvit: You shouldn't believe me, you should think on your fucking own.
voiderest: the topic of athism was something I reached on my own, but I wasn't aware your claim was agianst the idea.
voiderest: I was under the impression atheist are aginst RRS so theism wouldn't be the issue
garyvit: Well, not all atheists are against the RRS.
garyvit: I'm just saying, many atheists see the RRS as the FOX equivalent for atheism.
garyvit: Intolerant, dogmatic, the works.
voiderest: I am well aware some atheist don't like RRS...
garyvit: Are you aware that many don't?
voiderest: ok so your claim is that they are intolerant and dogmatic. Can you tell me what those terms mean to you?
garyvit: No.
garyvit: That's too much to type out.
voiderest: Some and Many shouldn't matter here as that is just an appel to numbers. I said some to show a group, size of which I am unaware.
voiderest: ok pick one then
voiderest: show me half the argument
voiderest: this is your argument I am asking you to show me. Don't you want me to stop wasting my time with them?
voiderest: Maybe help you?
voiderest: Did you know I have questioned their methods?
voiderest: well if you aren't going to make an argument or support it with anything I'm not going to believe you...
voiderest: would you like to show me their irrationality?
voiderest: grav by being uneasy about giving out a claim and then refusing to define it and give and example or other proof I can not respect your beliefs on RRS or the way you argue against them.