Theists calling me stupid
Ok, I'm dumbfounded. Basically, in class, we were watching an informational video on the Holocaust. The person next to me says something along the lines of "Wow, people are dumb". I sorta half-nodded, then he proceeded to say that "We should kill everyone that is not christian or jewish". To this, I said that for this to happen he must kill roughly 2/3 of the world, and added in that I was an atheist.
He then proceeded (along with his neighbor) to say about how I was going to hell, how atheism was ignorant and naive, and how when I was on my deathbed I'd repent. I tried to probe for an explanation, saying something along the lines of "Stop calling me an idiot, and put forward your argument if you have one". To this they both started saying how atheism was 'just dumb' and that you can't explain god because he is god. Several arguments later (mostly me explaining where the burden of proof lies, god's track record in the old testament, etc), they proceeded to stop arguing, settling with calling me an 'asshole'.
Seriously, wtf.
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Yup , and that is the mind set that helped kill the great atheist "spirit" of the blessed jesus. We earthling suck, .... so as jesus said, try love on the enemy, nothing else will work ! ..... A godly message ..... HI GOD ! as you ..... oh my emotions boil .....
I AM more than 212 degrees, but mostly water, ......
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Just a note of support.....I am on my deathbed, so to speak...
Degenerative lung disorder...puts a strain on the whole cardio pulmonary system.
I could go tomorrow, or survive for a few years.
Nope, I will never "repent" to belief in a Deity, I kinda think the idea of non-existence is something to look forward to.
That's my take on it, non-existence=eternal peace......but that's the optimist in me, the silver lining.
In the vast majority of cases with unquestioning theists it is not worth the effort to try and argue a position. You can state your points, smile, and move on. This type of encounter is why atheists should be hyper-sensitive about which arguments we use in these situations least we fall to their level. You made cogent argument, and their reply was to call you an "asshole". You won the exchange if you didn't play the name-calling game. Hopefully, you reached the point where you realized that you had won and left while you were ahead.
Surprised they weren't for killing the jews as well. Wasn't that long ago christians were responsible for killing thousands upon thousands during the crusades. Just between you and me...... The bible god's the asshole.
You'll find many theists are incapable of being criticized without name calling and resorting to the whole hell scare tactic.
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Ugh that's so annoying.Can you imagine if a atheist called them names they'd go running off saying atheists are immoral and can't debate properly.It's perfectly alright for them to swear at you though. It's ridiculous people can base their lives on something when they don't even understand it or it's alternatives properly. How can xtians claim to have the one true religion,but they've never bothered studying all the others.
Remember,in a argument,goddunit beats everything. And you can't ask why.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
Faith is an emotional response. It is almost a perfect polar opposite to reason, and is subject to human instincts for following authority. Their reaction to your atheism likely stems from that, having been told those things by (or simply having heard from) people they consider to be authorities. Parents, ministers, respected adults... Reinforced by being around peers who think the same way.
Did you mention the irony of suggesting the eradication of non Jews and Christians during a film about the Holocaust? That really brings into sharp relief that there's little thinking involved but plenty of emoting.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Why are you dumbfounded, what kind of answer would you expect from someone making a claim on killing on mass genocide?
What you ran into, besides for a dangerous mentality, is the christian number one tool of that keeps them in power.
Create an environment that ridicules, and suppress non-christians. What they have done is drawn you out, and now they will probably start the process of publicly mocking you. Once they find a deviant of the norm, they usually like to make them a social prier as an example to others. This way they suppress competing to their comfort zone, by de-legitimizing other differing opinions. This will either force others with different views back underground, or too suppress their ideas to avoid be persecuted.
Man is the only animal in all of nature that cannot accept its own mortality.
Just for fun tell them you want to learn more about god and that you have a question for them. You might also mention that they should have no problem answering it...unless they are "dumb." That question is "God is omnipotent meaning he can do anything..absolutely anything right? Nothing at all is beyond his capabilities right? Then can he create a weight that is too heavy for him to lift no matter how hard he tried?"
If the answer is yes then there is one thing he cannot do. He cannot lift the rock.
If the answer is no, he would always be able to lift any rock he created then he can't create such a rock and there is still one thing he cannot do.
Watch them squirm with that!
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I read a apologetics answer to that a while ago(like a fewe years) I don't remember much of it,but I remember it made no sense. Even though I was a xtian at the time, I still had no idea to answer the question afterwards. If I remember right,it was basically trying to say god exists outside of human reference and therefore can't be defined by human standards.
I think what the author meant was,"stuff off and stop asking me this."
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
He was displeased at the notion that god would became very finite when observed, especially as he'd already said we could see god all around us (the familiar argument from complexity).
Points for creativity. =-.^=
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
Go back to school and use every single argument they used except insert "flying spaghetti monster" in place of Yahweh.
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You might try asking them if they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. Then ask about Zeus, Thor, Cupid, and any other representatives from old expired religions. Then point out that they all have exactly as much proof of existence as the Christian God. None.
If they insist that God is real, then tell them to say Hi to the Easter Bunny, since the spring equinox is coming up soon.
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Oh there is so much much more to play with questions of omnipotence. It's a beautiful little contradiction generating aspect to fuck their heads up with.
1) Ask them why, when Jesus was dying on the cross, that he said, "Father! Why have thou forsaken me?"
Usually they will respond that Jesus was dying for humanities sins and God can not look on sin.
Scrrrrreeeeech....urhm...you just said God can do anything. How can he not look on sin?
2) Ask them why Jesus had to die. After they get over the whole bit about dieing for humanities sins so we can go to heaven yada, yada, yada... Ask them this.
Why, exactly did humans need the son of god to die for our sins?
So we can go to heaven.
Why can't god just forgive us without sacrificing his only begotten son?
There is no logical, reasonable, rational excuse that they can possibly come up with why god CAN'T forgive us without a sacrifice.
He's just being a petty bastard their god. Yahweh is basically saying, "Fuck you. Pay me. Or no heaven for you." Even being so insanely petty that he put his prescious son through one hell of a beating and death. To what? Stroke his fucking ego?
What a fucking joke.
Forget the rock thing. That won't even phase them. It's been around so long it's useless. Not a single gear will start moving in their heads. Ask them those questions.
Those will confuse them for quite a while.
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And yet, killing is bad in the christian religion.......
Only if you don't do it in the name of god. Welcome WBFL.
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What a fucking sick moron! Must listen to Ann Cuntergeist. "Kill it if it aint like me" Isn't that what Hitler did|?
Remind him of his sky daddy's complacancy and blessings when the hebrews in the OT sacked other tribes what happen to them. Not to mention the flood were women, and children according to the fairy tale, choked to death by asphyxiation via water in the lungs, very painful.
You're an asshole for not buying hocus pocus.
Good for you for speaking out against such vile garbage. People like them allow people like Hitler to do what they did. People like you prevent assholes like that from ever having the chance.
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Yeah Brian , a strong YES to Coprolal1an ....
no more Hitlers , then we got Bush etc , yeah WTF is wrong with us ..... WHY ????? why why why ..... WAKE the FUCK up ! No MASTERS .....
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He said "We should kill everyone that is not christian or jewish", now how could a christian say something like that. They clearly must be misinformed about the history and workings of their own religion. I'm suprised he didn't call hitler an Atheist or anything, they love doing that...
Slimm,
The irony in someone watching something about the holocaust, and deciding that all non christians and non jews should be killed in order to prevent further holocausts, is breathtaking. It sucks to know that people really can be that insanely thick.
Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first.
You are going to hell...
The next time ask them what THEY have done in their lives to deserve being tortured for eternity. (bring it to the personal level)
Ask them if they ever killed, raped or voted for Bush, press them hard on what THEY have done to deserve toasting the ol' testes forever and ever amen...
Often, they will eventually admit that they have done nothing at all worthy of such heavy punishment.
Smile and walk on.
You will repent on your deathbed...
Nah, been 'in extremis' a few times, never called on a sky buddy to help me.
Besides, I can't repent, I never pented in the first place.
LC >;-}>
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Yeah , that's hot, "Besides, I can't repent, I never pented in the first place." !!!
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Heh hehrating voting for Bush alongside murder and rape (though in the long term voting for Bush likely did more harm than any single act of rape or murder.)
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