Christmas is shitty
Offline ...And I don't mean just because some people use it as leverage to get kids to believe in a magical world.
The concept is awful.
Everyone wastes an inordinate amount of time and money buying stuff for family members (while retailers laugh all the way to the bank), half of which they think sucks / didn't want, the other half they often would've just rather bought themselves a month earlier. It leaves most people penniless for January and causes a disproportionate amount of special pleading for various causes ('Aw, c'mon, man. Yu have to do 'X'! It's Christmas!').
And then there's the songs. The fucking Christmas music.
I spend as little time in stores this time of year as I can, because one day I fear I'll have heard one remix too many of 'Dreaming of a White Christmas' and the resulting shattering of my sanity will tear reality asunder.
"Natasha has just come up to the window from the courtyard and opened it wider so that the air may enter more freely into my room. I can see the bright green strip of grass beneath the wall, and the clear blue sky above the wall, and sunlight everywhere. Life is beautiful. Let the future generations cleanse it of all evil, oppression and violence, and enjoy it to the full."
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
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Than stay home.
I LOVE CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the last minute shopping, I love the decorations, I love the music, I love the materialism of it, I love the family gatherings, exchanging new gossip, hugs, snow, presents, more hugs, more snow (if we're lucky), more family gossip, cheesy movies, pies, food, deserts, Xmass trees, candy, mistletoe, all the red and green, bells, sled, Santa, presents (again), did I mention FOOD?.................
Hell, who says atheists can't love Xmass - down with stereotypes! It doesn't have to be REAL to be enjoyable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's the difference between Texas and Saudi Arabia? In Texas they execute you for murder, in Saudi Arabia they excecute you for having a Xmass tree.
I thought this would be about Mr Hankey.
Aw, C'mon man. Consumermas is about togetherness, sharing, and roasting fundy nuts over an open fire.
It takes a village to raise an idiot.
Save a tree, eat a vegetarian.
Sometimes " The Majority " only means that all the fools are on the same side.
I do celebrate it in a totally secular way. The Santa stuff is cool, but the Jesus shit annoys me - and of course they are both equally real (well, not really. There really was a Turkish bishop named Nicholas that they named a saint, but he certainly didn't ever live at the North Pole or make toys or wear a heavy red suit.
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I understand completely, i work in a store that plays christmas music from b4 thanksgiving through new years and its only about 25-30 songs >_>. by about a week from now i will be sick of all christmas music except for stuff like The Arrogant Worms album "Christmas Turkey" and that makes it better, my favorite song is Christmas sucks!
My, family doesn't like me anymore when it comes to presents though, i have decided to no longer buy presents for anyone except my parents and their dogs. Everyone else i donate money to organizations like Doctors Without Borders and and the Freedom From Religion Foundation. I usually don't spend outside my budget though so i normally don't have that January headache alot of people do have. I learned a long time ago to live within my means not outside them... (*cough*except for college*cough*)
The hate in your mind that resonates in you is one of the reasons why Christianity is alive and well in this world, The Christians get a lot of stuff wrong, but they can be credited with doing one thing well, and that is to give their friends a feeling that they are the most important thing in the universe to them, it's just love, the most important thing for humans.
Until you get that hate out of your mind, you'll probably create a few Converts yourself inadvertently. It must suck to live in a world where nobody really cares about you.
The idea that we should believe something because its true does not come naturally to all people. People don't believe in things because they are true, they believe in them because they are useful. Holding a belief that runs contrary to reality can be a marker that binds you to the loyalty of a tribe. Belief=Belonging=Protection. We must take heed to well informed hostility lest the situation degrades to the point of war and we are mowed down by a force greater than ourselves.
Actually this site has de-converted a few people from the idiot myth of Christianity.
I don't hate the holiday's myself, I hate the materialism involved within it. Also after hearing the same songs repeatedly over and over and over again can cause people to not like that music, which in turn sends them to the polar opposites. I listen to the songs that make fun of christmas to counter-balance and that keeps it from being completely annoying to me.
I myself only care about getting together with family, since most of my family only shows up at christmas (holiday-wise).
I worked at Woolworth while going to college - over a few Christmases. If carolers had come to my house after a shift of listening to Xmas music I very well may have got my Buck knife and stabbed them in the face.
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I was actually born on christmas day. In a land where all the santas wear short sleeves. You sit on a stuffed llama when they take your picture.
I get screwed every year with the "here's your birthday and christmas present".
Why couldn't they just stick with march 28 like in the old days?
Stupid Santa. I'm celebrating my birthday on july 25, fucker!
Yes, I'm filled with hate. Sweet candy striped frankinscence smellin' hate.
Merry Christmas
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
My birthday is 2 weeks after Xmas to the day. If someone tried combining gifts as a kid I might have bitch-slapped them.
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It must suck to live in a world where the thing that cares most about you is imaginary.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
Incorrect, the people who care about me are boxes of molecular nodes and wires that understand that there is more to consciousness than being a box of redirected energies.
The idea that we should believe something because its true does not come naturally to all people. People don't believe in things because they are true, they believe in them because they are useful. Holding a belief that runs contrary to reality can be a marker that binds you to the loyalty of a tribe. Belief=Belonging=Protection. We must take heed to well informed hostility lest the situation degrades to the point of war and we are mowed down by a force greater than ourselves.
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"I guess it's time to ask if you live under high voltage power transmission lines which have been shown to cause stimulation of the fantasy centers of the brain due to electromagnetic waves?" - Me
"God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, - it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks please. Cash and in small bills." - Robert A Heinlein.
Christianity is alive and well today because people are scared of dying. They are so frightened by this future event that many waste their entire lives in useless activities, religion being high on the list. In no time at all they get to that day and get to find out for sure if there is more or not. So far no one has come back to give an Ireport on the afterlife.
Unfortunately many claiming the title of Christian show many other things other than love of their fellow man. Perhaps I have missed the sections in the Gospels where Jesus told his followers to kill in his name, defame, ridicule, force conversions, force their perceptions of God's will upon others, and to kill those infidels who aren't of the same sect of belief. People are the most important thing in this world not beliefs in fantasy, you silly machine. By the way which version of Terminator are you?
Now as an atheist all believers can freely hate me equally. In my case, I just feel bad for them wasting all the time and money they do in their beliefs in fantasy. I have no ill feelings for those who have such beliefs. I probably care far more about people in general than does someone with a religious bias as I don't hold it against them. It's too bad most of them have no understanding of their supposed leader Jesus who they really do not follow in real life.
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"God is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, - it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks please. Cash and in small bills." - Robert A Heinlein.
I hate how it's every year the same shit. It would be OK if it was like the Olympics, every 4 years. It sucks how idiots think they have to do the same things, same music, eat the same food with the same people. I don't get traditions, it's just doing the same boring shit over and over again.
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On the other hand, it is nice to have an excuse to touch base with people you care about. Not that it's nessesary, just nice.
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Define love.
Do atheists not have friends and family?
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare
We, paganic, esoterically-spiritual family appreciate the winter solstice as an ancient tradition, a moment when people realized that the symbollic force of light, sun and life won over the symbollic darkness, night and death and the days are getting longer again.
The "recent" Jesus patchwork on this is an example of similarly long tradition of spiritual teachers appearing on Earth, teaching people, doing miracles and then vanishing by supernatural and/or martyric death, to bring the humanity new moral ideals.
It's also acceptable to stop some old traditions and try some new. For example, I'm gonna meditate on the Christmas day (25th) and also on the Vesak. Why not? Driving is meditation, dancing and singing as well, we do it all the time.
Of course we've got to keep this for ourselves for the most part, to not offed grandma, who's strongly religional and too old to change it.
We also solidarly hate Santa Klaus together, as a symbol of American commercialism, Coca Cola, obesity, child (elf, reindeer)- molesting elderly person and as a quasi-cultural plague, infecting the minds of children.
We celebrate the day of St. Nicholas separately, having no relation with Santa.
I believe the children should be told the story of St. Nicholas and it's later aberrations across the world. Also, the second part of the story, why it's on Christmas, is in the legend how the three mages (or kings) from the East brought gifts to the newborn Jesus, so now we care to bring gifts as well.
So, the St. Nicholas, legend of Jesus and three mages from East, winter solstice, and the christmas tree tradition from 16th century Germany, should be enough to keep children rational during Christmas. Maybe it's not a killing of the glamour, maybe it just shows them how this time is special to many people for many reasons.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
i love christmas myself, precisely because i love traditions. even after having worked at the gap through the holiday season in 2003 (working at the gap was the assraping i had to take to pay for my '52 telecaster repro--worth it), i still love christmas. i can understand frustration with christmas music, believe me, but then again, anyone who's ever worked retail can tell you that ALL store soundtracks get very irritating after several days. i remember seriously contemplating tracking down killing outkast after hearing "hey yah" for the 18,665,639,908,770,876,543th time.
christmas is nothing new. in almost every culture and civilization in history, there has been at least one day (and often a whole week or month) where all inhibitions are to be let go and people are supposed to splurge and get drunk and have fun and do all the things they can't do in "normal life." comparatively, christmas is pretty subdued. in many ancient cultures, the master/slave relationship was reveresed during such times, dreaded rulers were subjected to ridicule without fear of reprisal, orgies were not unheard of, and, of course, lecherous old silenus on his donkey was king (i.e., wine and skirt-chasing were the norm). it's even written in the talmud that, on the jewish festival of purim, one is duty-bound to get so drunk that one cannot tell the difference between "cursed be haman" and "blessed be mordechai." as for ramadan, anyone who knows anything about it can tell you that the idea it's a time of fasting is ridiculous. i've always heard people gain weight during ramadan.
i think these times of celebration are valuable and perhaps even a necessary safety valve for human society. as such a celebration, christmas works as well as any other, jesus and all--at least, here in slovakia, where the fundies are an ignored minority and most people appreciate the stories in a mythological sense. i'm a big believer, like nietzsche in the birth of tragedy, in the value of mythology (recognized as such) and public celebration of mythology for social cohesion, but i too can't abide the american fundy plastic manger scene and the constant preacher's refrain of "jesus is th' reason fer th' season," because that very fundamentalism sucks the social life out of the christmas celebration.
american puritanism and fundamentalism have eliminated almost all the old european christmas traditions that were brought to the new world, no doubt since they were "pagan" (i.e., "fun" ). think about it: what social christmas traditions do we as americans have? for the vast majority of us, none, apart from dinner with family, opening gifts, and maybe going to church. here in slovakia, i can't imagine a village christmas without children going from house to house dressed as the three kings and regaling us with songs. or slightly older men doing the same thing, but without the costumes and getting blind drunk in the process, since each house gives them a shot or two (or four) of plum or juniper brandy as they go. sometimes i even join them, adding my hardiest "good king wenceslas" to their slovak carols which i can't understand a fucking word of. but nowadays, in america caroling is quaint because it's so rare, and the traditional drunken office christmas party is but a pale shadow of the old european yule romps. worst of all, all these "traditions" are done within our own little cells of family, friends, and coworkers: no village hospitality, no binding social myth apart from old cecil b. demille hollywood bullshit and rudolph on tv. ironically, the more fervently the fundies believe in the literal truth of the myth, the more stale, empty, and introspective the christmas celebration becomes. it becomes a "family time," rather than the original social celebration.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
*speaks in robot voice* Must go visit other boxes of molecular nodes for some egg nog and gift exchanging...
Just because I don't have a soul, does not mean I don't posses the ability to love people or family or have feelings.
God is unnecessary for all that stuff you attribute to it, after all we(said boxes) did make it up out of ignorance and fear and the need to anthromorphize nature.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
Yeah, until i was about 12 my parents did overcompensate.
I guess they thought I was old enough to handle it after that.
*cue ominous music*
I wasn't.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbkqMttTwn8
Pointless spending of money time.
If the whole "spirit" of Christmas is for some about more than materialism but giving, it still doesnt need to be a grand 3 month production. One can do kind things for their family or neighbors any day of the year.
|If for others it is simply about having a special time with your family member where you eat drink and be merry, that is fine too, but come on, it still doesn't need to be a corperate gulltonous 3 month production where media encourages people to buy things they cant afford.
It is only ONE day, and it IS simply a marketing tool for big business to sell you junk you really don't need.
YOU can "give" or "party" without treating it like a grand production.
I only partisipate in it because I have family members and friends who I am tied to. I could take it or leave it. December 25 has the same amount of hours and oportunities to do kind things or give or party as any other day.
Our society really does need to learn to be more pragmatic about finances and learn the difference between what someone actually needs and what they merely want.
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A perfect example is that many townships and cities waste electricity on christmas lights. It is one thing to have a few decorations in town square but you could save the tax payers some money by cutting back on the decorations that are a luxury and not a nessesity.
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Thanks Fanas....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbkqMttTwn8
This one's my NEW all-time favorite Christmas song!!!
Yep, xmas sucks. Celebrate the Winter Solstice instead! Whenever someone wishes you 'Merry Christmas' reply 'and a Happy Winter Solstice to you'. It's worth it just to see their reaction.
Unless of course if you are in the southern hemisphere.
Dude, Xmas is awesome! Since I never know what to get anyone, I just support the anti consumer variety of capitalism by buying Wal-Mart gift cards, essentially buying money at money value only with lower liquidity in that they can only be used at one big cooporation with a reputation for driving other businesses out of business.
In all seriousness, I don't mind the return of the sun from the winter solstice, as I get paid vacation and a shit load of pie.
Oh, and don't buy Wal-Mart gift cards...
"I've yet to witness circumstance successfully manipulated through the babbling of ritualistic nonsense to an imaginary deity." -- me (josh)
If god can do anything, can he make a hot dog so big even he can't eat all of it?
I'd say if you're going to buy someone a gift card, get one from somewhere you KNOW they like to buy stuff from, or get them one of those ones from the credit card companies that can be used anywhere that takes that credit card.
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Isn't getting into heaven and avoiding hell the most important thing to a Christian? So isn't all the 'love' other Christians show you just a fake act to impress the divine dictator and his son? No thanks, I'd rather have the sincere hatred of my fellow atheists(as I often receive here), than the phony 'love' of divine ass-kissing Xians.
If one needs and imaginary friend to care you, why would you pick a skinny dude with long hair. Why not pick the Victoria's secret models to be imaginary friends?
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I agree with this. I can't stand the crap. Instead, I take out my 'Happy Birthday, Baby Jesus Vol. 1 & 2' album (SFTRI). Listen to New Bomb Turks rendition of Phil Spector's 'Christmas (Baby please come home)' and be blown away!
I invite you all to the Celebration of the Two Breasts at the Church of the Holy Brassiere.
I think you're on to something.
"Yes, I seriously believe that consciousness is a product of a natural process. I find that the neuroscientists, psychologists, and philosophers who proceed from that premise are the ones who are actually making useful contributions to our understanding of the mind." - PZ Myers
Is that close to the tabernacle of the divine derriere?
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
I like getting to see family, get presents, maybe even go to a few parties. Also my birthday is just over a week before so it's always a pleasant time of year. I don't like the religious or consumerist parts of it. But I love the atmosphere, the festivity, etc, it really helps relieve the symptoms of S.A.D. I'm not expected to buy presents for anyone outside my immediate family. My larger family know I have a lot of debt from being a student. I get a few bits and peices for my Mum, Dad and siblings, and something for my friend in France (who also has a birthday near Christmas). Also, it's already started snowing a little here, North West England is the least snowy part of the island, so it's unusual here at this time of year, but hopefully we'll have a white Chirstmas too.
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The past 3 years running, I've bought a big tin of humbugs and shared it amongst my co-workers. Some still haven't got the joke. Even when I greet them with "merry humbug." Others ask where my Christmas spirit is. They get directed to the bottle of Zubrowka in my desk drawer (a management tool - those who work Christmas Eve with me get to share it with me.)
People who still don't laugh or get it find out my true feelings about the "Christmas Spirit," i.e. I do not subscribe to that aspect of the post industrial zeitgeist which, each year turns most of us (incl. kids) into greedy, materialistic want-junkies, driven stark bollocks crazy by insipid, repeated, tinny seasonal tunes that you can not escape from.
Several years ago I even tried to convince people I'd become a Quaker just to get them to leave me the fuck alone. It didn't fly.
Real Christmas for me consists of using the days off to take a 200 mile trip north to my folks' place where the exiled family conglomerate each year. We exchange small gifts (booze mostly), have a fantastic meal (my mother will ever remain the best cook in the universe,) wash up, and get shitfaced on the drink we've all given & received. At 2am on Christmas night, someone will suggest a walk and we'll hike up to the small wood near the village in the freezing cold, then come home to a warm house.
Of course, this'll change as my generation finally succumb to an instinctive urge to breed, but for now this is fun.
Stop that... It's silly.
Something was brought to my attention that I hadn't considered, which perhaps is something of a good point that I hadn't considered:
Christmas is a good vehicle for children (whom have no income) to get rewarded with things that they want but could otherwise simply not aquire. I'm not sure what I think about that, but it's a valid argument - without Christmas (or birthdays), children would not have the opportunity to share in material gains outside of the somewhat arbitrary whims of the parent whenever said child happens to ask them for something.
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
Christmas means time off from school. That makes it okay in my book.
Really, sometimes it's hard to believe it's even a Christian holiday, given how it's portrayed by movies, tv, shopping malls, greeting cards, etc. It may have religious origins, but it's celebrated in a very secular way for most people -- shopping, presents, lots of food, stories about flying raindeer and old men distributing gifts. Hell, they celebrate (a form of) Christmas in Japan and only something like 1% of the Japanese population is Christian. I don't really have much of a problem with Christmas.
Down is the new up.
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I love the decorations and the pretty lights. I don't mind the whole atmosphere of families and presents at all. I just don't like the expectation to spend tons of money and crowd the malls, but it does keep businesses going.
I'm not into all the weird religious crap that goes down, but I can easily ignore it.
*Our world is far more complex than the rigid structure we want to assign to it, and we will probably never fully understand it.*
"Those believers who are sophisticated enough to understand the paradox have found exciting ways to bend logic into pretzel shapes in order to defend the indefensible." - Hamby
I hated Xmas myself... for a VERY long time... then I stopped working in retail. Now THAT is what hell is!
Example of Retail Hell during Xmas (I was working at a certain Mart that had Wals):
ME: "Here you go ma'am... and have a happy holiday!"
GRINCH (In the most condescending tone): "I'm Jewish, I celebrate Channukah!" ::Grabbing bag and huffing out::
ME: "MERRY XMAS!"
When you work in Retail hell... you will ALWAYS have a deep seeded hatred of all things Xmas.
I always said atheists are no fun at Christmas.
I basically agree. But our materialistic culture stems from a secular, materialistic worldview.
"Scientists animated by the purpose of proving they are purposeless constitute an interesting subject for study." - Alfred North Whitehead
Oh really?
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He Knows My Name - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
He Reigns - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
Here I Am to Worship - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
How Great Is Your Love - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
How Great Thou Art - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Hungry - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
I Am Free - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
I Can Only Imagine - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
I Give You My Heart - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
I Love You Lord - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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I Will Sing - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
I Worship You Almighty God - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Integrity's iWORSHIP Kids 2 - CD Split-Trax (Tracks)
It Is Well With My Soul - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Jesus You Are - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Lord Have Mercy - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Ocean - iWORSHIP - Audio CD Trax (Tracks)
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Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/
Books about atheism
LMAO! wow hamby how long did it take to look all that up?
Knowing hamby's in the southern U.S.; I'd have to say a couple of seconds, just to type in the urls of a few of the better known bookstores. There's usually one in every small town, and as many as 20 in the larger towns.
Vote for McCain... www.therealmccain.com ...and he'll bring Jesus back
Really? So you're an economic expert as well?
Well, by all means, please enlighten us as to how a lack of belief in a deity provides us with a model for rampant consumerism.
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
yeah, really. i thought atheism was supposed to lead to communism! now it leads to rampant capitalism, apparently. make up your tiny minds, fundies.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
lokipro
Where is all that junk at the bottom of your posts coming from?
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Wow... I never bother with any of that claptrap, so it didn't even enter my head, but damn if you don't have a great point. Atheism leads to both rampant materialism AND communism... it's like... magic.
Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/
Books about atheism
No magic. Merely the spectacular and frightening power of doublethink.
"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.
-Me
Books about atheism
Aiia,
Sorry about that... I have a specific add-on to my Firefox for SEO research. That pop-up appeared everytime I hovered over a link... I've turned it off!