Want a good laugh?
Here is some "hard hitting" coverage of the "new atheists" from our pals at Focus on the Family.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
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Want a good laugh?
Posted on: April 7, 2009 - 3:12pm
Want a good laugh?
Here is some "hard hitting" coverage of the "new atheists" from our pals at Focus on the Family. All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
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I can't listen to anything without causing myself back and neck cramps from an uncomfortable leaning position at work. After a brief deliberation, I decided not to subject myself to physical pain in order to subject myself to mental pain. Not to mention enabling myself to not have to write down what the idiots say and respond to them.
Too bad they don't put it in print. I'd have some fun with that.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
I subjected myself to it, in the name of....well, boredom, I think.
The broadcast is a discussion between Dobson and a man named Albert Mohler, who has his own evangelical site. They spouted off quite a few fallacies. This led me to Albert's site, which was pretty vacuous, ranging from reviews of books to standard Christian blog grist. Here's a tidbit I snipped from a review of the book "Total Truth":
I wonder what worldviews which do not posit some fall from grace look like to these people. No wonder they seem impervious to logic.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
Okay, what the hell? Those guys are using the same buzzwords as Paisley, Truden and that other guy. Someone wrote a playbook for these weasels, and I want to know who.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Can you give specific examples? I imagine that they are pretty much just rehashing each other's arguments, with a strong dose of Discovery Institute propoganda added to the mix.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
Sure, "worldview" and "materialist" are used as weasel words. "Atheistic materialism" is one of Paisley's favourite phrases, and Truden's as well. "Worldview" as in "your worldview" is used by almost every theist who visits the site.
"Why do they hate us?" becoming "I have to remember that they really hate God" is funny, but the idea that an atheist, who doesn't believe in a god somehow hates a god doesn't strike them as contradictory. It's also a very common argument. "You just hate God!"
The "troubled childhood" argument is a fantastic ad hominem, followed by the classic appeal to emotion that is the "but what meaning can you have in your life unless we tell you what it is?" argument. That's a favourite of mine. I'll tell you what I find meaningful, thanks.
I mean, unless this guy is the source. If this is the guy with the playbook, I want a copy, because then at least I can quote this vapid moron. The thing about the atheist stance is that you don't need new ideas for arguments. Telling someone they're being ridiculous just takes a course in logic, not quoting Daniel Dennett.
Seriously, these guys are out of their tree.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Could not have said it better myself...
After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him.
The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.
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Oh wow, this is pretty fruity. I'm listening to a little bit...
"The atheists have no starting point for their story...WE have a narrative! Where does an atheist start? In the beginning there was nothing? Something? SOMEHOW?"
I can't listen to this. It's....painful.
*Our world is far more complex than the rigid structure we want to assign to it, and we will probably never fully understand it.*
"Those believers who are sophisticated enough to understand the paradox have found exciting ways to bend logic into pretzel shapes in order to defend the indefensible." - Hamby
COUGH Pandas COUGH
*Our world is far more complex than the rigid structure we want to assign to it, and we will probably never fully understand it.*
"Those believers who are sophisticated enough to understand the paradox have found exciting ways to bend logic into pretzel shapes in order to defend the indefensible." - Hamby
That's not a problem at all. We already are. Overwhelmingly, I might add.
"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.
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Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, those are pretty standard fare for that crew. About the only one that stands out in my mind as having a specific root is the bit about remembering that atheists really hate god. They probably get this from John 15:18.
And, yes, I played a game of "spot the logical fallacy" while I was listening.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
LOL Exactly what I thought when I heard it. Are they trying to make our case for us? They pretty much said "atheist don't really bother trying to convert dumb-asses, instead they target people who actually understand their arguments." Paraphrased obviously, but that's what I thought about it.
After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him.
The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.
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I'm sure you were just trying to be funny, but The Panda takes great offense to a comparison with these psychotic imbeciles. You must smoke 10 joints, eat a cake, and take a weeks vacation as penance for your sin. If you do not do this within a month, your soul will belong to the evil Moose, and you'll be stuck on a leaky Canoe for all eternity.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
This reminds me of some show I happened to see on Mtv a few months ago. Two guys(I assume Jackass alumni) were dressed in one of those two person horse constumes. They proceeded to go to a farm and entice a large animal to mount them. The critter in question was either a moose or an elk. I want to say it was an elk, but it sounds like something the Evil Moose God would do. I think that the threat of being physically attacked anally would be more effective than threatening future hellfire.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
Cheered me up alot i needed somthing to make me laugh. what retards
Has anyone looked at the book that he came on to promote.
Looking at the reviews it got me questioning whose side he's really on.
For example:
So he introduces his readers into the arguments of New Atheism, critiques the common arguments against it and show that they fail, and then refuses to give any arguments of his own?
He just advises the church to "not shy away", but for people to keep reading into the debate and pray?
Easy with your shots guys!
I think this one is under cover!!
just what the fuck is new atheism? is that like new negation or new indecisiveness? how can the absence of something be new?
oh yeah, i'm back, after a long hiatus. hi everybody.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
If you want some more confusion and amusement, go look at his website: http://www.albertmohler.com/
In one recent blog about the inevitability, he quotes a Time magazine article. And, funny enough, the quotes are from him. It's like he's wanting to point out to the readers that, hey, I was in Time magazine! He could have just restated his comments, but apprently being quoted in Time gives them more weight.
Then, you should check out his commentaries. It's full of gems, like:
Ah, Dawkins is secretly a theist! Brilliant!
I've read through some of the commentaries. He seems to waffle, always mentioning how these "new atheists" are gifted writers and such. Perhaps he's just trying to throw a bone to the atheists he knows will also likely read his comments.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
It's the label the god-bot crowd has given to the uprising of anti-religious activity that they currently see as ascendent. They view the vanguard of the movement as consisting of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and Dennet.
All that is necessary for the triumph of good is that evil men do nothing.
I just listened to the whole thing and was quite entertained. It's funny how religious people simply refuse to believe that Atheists actually exist. We only call ourselves Atheists because we hate god, and of course my personal favorite of the day, because we want to be free of "sexual morality!" Yes, it's true, we only claim to be Atheists as an excuse for guilt free sex, you got us. Good Job!!!
Oh and on a side note... Where the hell do these people come up with figures like Atheists only making up 4% to 6% of the population? Are they only doing polls in the deep South or something?
Free your mind.
Because most atheists call themselves Deists, agnostics, or something else on polls. And the percentage that actually calls themself atheist is very, very small.
I especially loved the request for money at the end.
God is all powerful, all knowing, he just can't handle money. But he always needs money. He just can't bring himself to put money in the ministry's bank account.
Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success. --Mark Skousen