The Smoking Gun bags PrankNet. FBI + RCMP = Owned
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/08/the-smoking-gun-exposes-pranknet-as-internet-badboys-cower.ars
Awesome. PLUS: The site isn't just boring mugshots and legal speak anymore!
Epic Win.
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hehe you know when you have something coming to you
Pranknet? More internet idiots?
And of course they're wusses. Most people are, when push comes to shove.
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Just ... read ... the article.
What a sociopath. How is any of that funny? Terrifying people into believing they're going to suffer a chemical burn? That guy deserves several jails I can think of off the top of my head.
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Huh, and I was wondering why Kevin wasn't posting recently. Now I know.
ROFL!!!
Did you read the follow up that covered some of the other top participants? 'dex' wasn't even the worst of the bunch.
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That's the article I read. So very sad.
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This just in: A man drinks a glass full of urine. He knows what is in the glass before he goes bottoms up but he drinks it all the same.
OK, whose fault is this?
Evidently not the guy who drank it. Evidently not the guy who peed in the glass.
No, this clearly could not have happened if not for some 13 year old with too much time on his hands.
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OK, we all told our younger brother that he would die if he did not eat yellow snow before he was seven years old. Many of us ate yellow snow when we were six years old.
If some idiot drives a truck into a hotel lobby, is it the fault of the guy who did the deed? Is it the fault of the hotel clerk? Is it the fault of a stupid kid who used the internet to pull a “yellow snow” thing writ large?
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That's the complete opposite of what happened. No man was told to drink his own piss, a woman was told it was apple cider.
Yes, many of the victims were guilty of naivete, but so they are in scams. I guess pyramid schemes are acceptable to you too?
And they weren't kids, they were adults with sufficient education in psychology to know how to exploit trust in authority figures. If a fireman tells you to break a window, you tend to do it.
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And they went far beyond such things when they started convincing the phone company to forward the numbers of hotels to skype so they could fuck with guests and their families.
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I have no problems with prank phone calls, they are a little childish but no harm done but when people start pulling this stuff it goes to far and is no longer harmless fun. When the prank caller posess as an authority figure the hole if i told you to jump infront of a car thing would you no longer applies, expessially when people are brought to believe there lives or jobs are at stake.
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Earlier this year Marquis offered a $500 bounty to anyone in the chat room who could succeed in getting someone to drive a car through the lobby window of a hotel. Remarkably, Malik did just that on May 27 at a Hampton Inn in York, Nebraska. Posing as a representative from a fire alarm company, Malik tricked a front desk worker into pulling the hotel alarm, which he claimed was malfunctioning and needed to be "reset." After the alarm sounded, he told the woman that the only way to stop the screeching was to break lobby windows, which supposedly contained sensors of some sort. As York Police Department Chief Donald Klug recalled, "A trucker was standing there and he offered to help and drove his truck through the front door."
TELL ME THATS NOT FUNNY! >.<
What Would Kharn Do?
Funny yes. Legal no. Impersonation is an offense.
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Well, I was not referring to one specific prank. Rather I was going for the concept of taking responsibility for your own actions. However, if you want to consider one specific prank, let's use the guy who drove a truck through a hotel lobby.
OK, the alarm has been activated and they guy on the phone says that if you break a window it will go off. As improbable as that sounds, a hammer would have worked in this situation. But here is a guy with a much better idea. Let's drive a truck through the building.
Having gotten into the truck, starting the engine and ramming the vehicle through the place, let's see if we can shift the blame to someone else. Seriously, nobody told him to do that, he came up with the idea all on his own. The dude on the phone started matters off, I will grant that much. However, the dude on the phone did not cause any damage to the building.
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hey perhaps he should be punished as well, i mean it was quite a stupid thing to do,expessially if no one told him to, as you say a hammer would of done it. But the caller should definately be punished as well, even more so imo.
Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
No animal shall wear clothes.
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
No animal shall drink alcohol.
No animal shall kill any other animal.
All animals are equal.
I have to agree that the people involved were monumentally stupid. No doubt. I mean, if someone told me that the only way to disable a sensor was to break a whole window, I'd know immediately that they were full of shit. The guy volunteering to break a window with his truck must have been high.
That's actually why I don't find the whole thing funny. I imagine the cop showing up and just shaking his head, having confirmed for the umpteenth time that people are completely retarded. Of course, police only tend to get called when people are being stupid, so that's a bit of confirmation bias, but still ... that's where the sadness creeps in for me.
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OK, so let's say that the punishment should fit the crime.
Dude drives a truck through a building causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage. Even had the situation been real, the behavior was not warranted. Anything less than him paying for the repairs is not acceptable.
Other dude operates a web site and looks for gullible people who can provide him with his lulz. In this case, he hit a jackpot of lulz with the truck driver dude. He really ought to pay for whatever crime he has actually committed. So tell me now, exactly what law has he broken?
I will fully grant that he is a despicable piece of human garbage. If he can be nailed to the wall for something, I would fully support doing that. However, I would not support the idea that anyone who does anything bad can't possibly be blamed for what they did if an easy target for shifting the blame can be found.
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"So tell me now, exactly what law has he broken?"
Impersonation.
Not that this particular prank is deserving of my lulz at his inevitable arrest. The chick with the piss and the commandeering of hotel phones for the express purpose of screwing with customers and their families is where this little shit crossed the line from amusing to dangerous.
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OK, I did some goggling and I can't find much in Canadian law about impersonation. Granted, though, the guy is a prick and someone really out to take away his intenet connection and make him play Dessert Bus for a few years. That being said, people who do stupid things need to own up to them and not try to find someone to shift the blame to.
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Well the prank with the truck happened in the States. Actually, the attacks were directed at Americans specifically. I think they all happened there.
But if they didn't break any laws, I'm sure they'll be fine.
Except for the fact that everyone now knows who they are of course...
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You need to type in "criminal impersonation". In the states, it's a felony. Here's a representative paragraph (first hit):
http://www.fortlewis.edu/administrative_services/police_parking/crs/criminalimpersonation.aspx
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