Poetry by Brian37 (poems by an atheist)
I post all over the web, but I want a back up in case my computer or one particular website goes down.
I have decided to edit this post because I do not like giving people the wrong impression. I cannot read Shakespeare to save my life. I just remember this one line from act 5 scene 5 and put my own spin on it. I've had to explain this over and over so here I decided to put that in this post so there is no more presuming what I know or don't know. But the plot of MacBeth is the old lesson, you can have everything and nothing at all at the same time. And how did all that cruelty serve you in the end? But I do not like play summeries calling him a Nihisist, because it is possible to not do what he did, and accept life as being finite, and sitll have morals without religion.
NEW EDIT 9/19/22 I got pissed at myself that I was scared to read MacBeth, so tonight, I forced myself to read it online. Now mind you, I did not understand it line for line, but basically Macbeth was an assdhole who murdered his way to the top, and did not believe the 3 witches prophcies. He murdered Duncan and had Banquo murdered. Banquo's ghost haunts Macbeth. And made the grave mistake of attacking McDuff's family and killing them(If I am reading this correctly) But Lady MacBeth has a guilty conscience and kills herself, upon finding out Macbeth basically says that life is not worth living and he should go down with a fight anyway, but refuses to fight Macduff face to face and Macduff kills him as the hero. ( I SERIOUSLY read the entire play every line, tonight. I even know where the famous line "double double, toil and trouble". comes from. The three witches, basically saying "look out Macbeth" your ass is in trouble.
So basically the moral of the play, don't be a fucking asshole when trying to get to the top, or "the bigger they are the harder they fall". Reminds me of the movie Scarface and all the shitty things Tony did to get to the top and all for not. But Sosa in that case was not a good guy either.
QUOTE WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE MACBETH:"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Here is my spin on that wonderful and profound line:
Out, Out brief candle, By Brian37
To-deities, and to-gods, and to-God
Creeps in this petty tyrant from day to day
Until the extinction of humanity new ones will be invented
And all our yesterday's Gods have been created by fools
The way to tribal death. Out out brief myth
Claims are but a walking shadow, a poor reflection
That struts our narcissism upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by the credulous, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.
(END)
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Of course "blasphemy" has religious significance to them, not to us. Where did I claim "blasphemy" had no religious significance?
Just like the word "sin" does, but in reality it would be like saying "it is a sin to call Thor an asshole".
We are hurting their egos, not a real god. It is not a crime to have your ego bruised. It is a crime to get violent and oppress others because they pick on your god/religion.
Both words are actually meaningless but since they use them we respond using their words.
Brian's "Blasphemy Challenge" was to demonstrate the absurdity of idea that you can actually hurt a fictional being. Both "sin" and "blasphemy" are childish words rooted in superstition.
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Give up your obsession with BeyondSaving, then we'll talk. Otherwise stfu.
My "obsession" is not with him the person, but his claims on the issue of economics. If anyone else was making the same arguments for Ayn Rand crap, I'd take issue with them too. He's not the only one who thinks that way. He just happens to be the one I deal with the most at this website. I am currently having it out with someone else on another board who also scapegoats the poor.
Outside that issue I think he can be quite reasonable and I do think he has a good sense of humor. I also think he has a thicker skin than most atheists and theists. I don't think he needs you to defend him, he doesn't have a glass jaw.
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Oh it just looks like you're stalking Beyond...but you're not really stalking. I see. LOL !
Brian if I were you I would worry more about defending yourself from Beyond . He tears you a new ass hole every time you cross paths....
Which is why he ignores rich people and PHD economists who would agree with me. Never said anyone had to take my word for it.
Economics isn't as simple as balancing a checkbook and demanding labor compete for the lowest wages. If he wants that kind of caste system he should try being poor in India.
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No One Gets A Pass, By Brian37 (Ode to Victor Stenger and his book "The New Atheism" ) Anything in ".." in this poem are quotes from that book.
In recent months
Endured I have
Arrows and slings
With good intent
Get along
With believers
Don't upset them
At any risk
Take not my word
By itself if you wish
Head those of Stenger
I must insist
"Faith is always foolish"
Victor takes a stand
Skeptical of Buddhism and Hinduism
Not just Abraham
He clearly demonstrates
Morals are universal
Not the product of
Anything super natural
A fatal distraction
Led by "selfish interest"
"Leads to many of the evils
Of society"
"Promise of eternal life...
Pursuing egocentric desires"
I would classify as
The putrid rigor of false hope
The dormant vocano
Did once make land
Enrich the soil
Where gardens grow
But to ignore reality
Behind human psychology
As to why fantasies
Persist
Would be to ignore
The rumbling mountain
Because of the pretty flowers
That reside on it's slopes
Motifs of compassion
Exist in all
Combating cruelty
A patent owned by none
A mere product
Victor wisely proclaims
To be a "continuing process
Of human development "
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Christianity Unveiled (Ode to the father of modern atheism), By Brian37
Epicurus
And Lucretius
Skeptical
Long ago
The dark night
The cloak of theism
For centuries
Buried inquiry
Deism arose
In response
To human cruelty
As a compromise to allow for a god
But amongst these enlightened ones
A refusal to do so
Gave birth
To modern atheism
Authorities as expected
Upon his public denial
The frightened ones
Ceased his books upon publishing
10 years elapse
After his death
Books with pseudonyms
Publicly burned
Paul Heinrich Dietrich
Took blasphemy
Further than anyone
Dared to go
"If the ignorance of nature
Gave birth to such a variety of gods,
The knowledge of this nature
Is calculated to destroy them"
*The bluntness of his quill
Put men in their infancy of thought
Which they were infatuated with
Viewing them as enslaved fanatics*
Their vanity
Based on concoctions
The needless distraction
Of mere superstition
(end)
Second to last stanza is a paraphrase of this quote "It is thus superstition infatuates man from his infancy, fills him with vanity, and enslaves him with fanaticism."
Quotes sourced from this link.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Baron_d%27Holbach#Sourced
Books quoted and paraphrased are
"Le Christianisme devoile(Christianity Unveiled)
"The System of Nature"
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Hide And Go Seek, By Brian37
An insidious game
Of Peekaboo
The child counts
And looks through rooms
Elaborate prose
In ancient books
All do claim
He is somewhere
They look and look
And insist
He is real
And point to their books
They count to ten
Then to 100
Then to 1,000
And where is he
The empty mansion
Of fictional rooms
He hides somewhere
Through limitless excuse
I refuse with vigor
To play this game
There is nothing to find
No one is up there
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Central Processing Unit, By Brian37
4 days prior
My black and white tower
Called it quits
On me
Eulogies
I had bestowed
On these PCs
Before
Dependent on others
Of those to restore
But this time
I went for broke
No more
I said to myself
Would I depend on others
To make Jesus rise from the dead
Knowing bits and pieces
Of the hardware
I figured out
The power supply
Was the culprit
So I Frankensteined
The dead bolts of old
A defibrillator
But still stuck I was
On boot errors
For hours
Had frustrated me
But under "safe mode"
Reached the c: prompt
And a list
Of DOS commands
Aware of "DIR"
And "LIST"
I remembered
"Format"
I had nothing to lose
No working computer
I typed
"Format C colon"
BAM!
I waited patiently
After hours
Of utter frustration
It took
Then I inserted
The Windows disk
And it took as well
It rose from the dead
But with minor complications
It failed to recognize
The integrated audio
Having tried and failed
To resurrect the DLL drivers
I resorted to
An expansion slot
BOOM
The tower is alive
Save one more day
Than a zombie god
(end)
"black and white" refers to the Gateway tower.
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Of Rubber Duckies, By Brian37
Being mid in years
What brings me cheer
Is the youthful nature
That has grown in my mother
Serious she wanted
Me to be
Dress a certain way
And never be silly
Now in her twighlight
That has waned
She finally accepts me
For who I am
When I burp
Instead I quip
"I made it myself"
Which now she laughs
And in this home
I now dwell
Infested with ducks
Our running joke
One with a bra
One is an elf
I proudly display
On my bookshelf
Two on the dash
Of the van I drive
Reminding me of
My mom all the time
Closer than ever
Now are we
Because of my mom
And rubber duckies.
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In Greed You Trust, By Brian37
Those who have
Think they have
Those with power
Step on the lower
Thus in ego
They devour
Of the lower
Because of power
Because they can
They will do
Without regards
On those they trample
They create division
Among the lower
So in order
To keep their power
My prior owners
Had such ethics
To value us
While holding power
But with regret
They sold to you
Their family run business
You want to xerox
The world needs not
More corporate goons
Out for profits
On cheap labor
You are the problem
You know you are
But do not care
Whom you trample
I did the work
Others would not do
Nor want of raise
Did I ask of you
I did more
Than my share
You took from me
Because you could
You wont lose sleep
You'll justify
Why you fired me
With blatant lies
This was not
About the book
Nor about
My hard work
From day one
When you took over
You said the following
I'll never forget
"Nothing" you said
"Is gong to change"
But followed it up with
"I want several of these"
I knew right then
You were full of shit
I knew right then
We were in trouble
I saw the dollar signs
In your eyes
Your greedy mentality
And selfishness
You live in a bubble
I feel sorry for you
I hope some day
You'll undersand
Understand
"It is what it is"
Understand
What is really important
It's not two houses
Or expensive car
It's not your traveling
Or par 4
I wont get paid
A dime for these prose
But some one like me
Will read it and agree
And in turn
It will give to more
The power to stand up
To the likes of you
We make you rich
And of that you forget
Out for yourself
And nothing more.
You got what you wanted
Finally
Sleep well tonight
In greed you trust
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Assorted Nonsense, By Brian37
The vapid concoctions
Of infantile fantasy
Are the delusions of rabbits
Pulled out of top hats
Rings that blend
Magicians wands that bend
Producing flowers
And coins at ears end
Of drunken state
History has made
Holy books
With fantastic claims
Of mere wish
Lacking all fact
Relying on fear
Of shackles and chains
In sports jackets
With buckles in back
We'd right fully place
The claims insane
Talk to a dog
Who tells you to murder
Convince lots of others
A comet will save you
Yet of mortar and brick
And ancient script
The poison they drink
And worship it
With limbs they pay
And hollow screams
Zealously insisting
On fictional dreams
There is no top hat
No rabbit to pull
Just assorted nonsense
Bought by the fool
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"The New Atheist" By Brian37
It is not militant
To state a fact
It is not militant
To demand evidence
If my blasphemy
Is of offense
Then then maybe you
Need to re asses
Metal birds
Were accosted
Based apon
Allah's word
Iron maidens
And stretching racks
Were the fate
Of those confessed
Salem Mass
Burn the witches
Quote a book
To justify it
It is not militant
Under the evergreen
In which your seasonal bounty
Your parents were the source
Tie a faggot to a post
Make sure he suffers well
For Laviticus
Condemns them all to hell
Make them walk behind you
Never let them drive
To claim I am oppressing you
For blasting such blatant lies
It is not militant
To challenge social norms
To call concepts absurd
Based on bad sources
No one in reality
If their car wont start
Blames it on fairies or angels
To the mechanic they will go
It is not militant
When science you condemn
To point out your hypocrisy
While using what science produces
On a jury
Many will sit
Convict a murderer
With DNA evidence
Yet of a story
Written long ago
Long before Darwin
And modern microscopes
You'll proclaim stupidly
That a girl produced magically
A baby out of wedlock
Without a second set of DNA
It is not militant
To call a lie a lie
It is not militant
To face reality
It is not militant
To describe in billions of years
The age of our earth
And the universe
Demanding of taboos
Are the last resort
Of the desperate
Who wont admit defeat
Atheist is not new
It has always been
It is when our brains
Value questioning
Do not expect me
In any given way
To bow to superstition
When it deserves no reprieve
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Herding Cats, By Brian37
"Atheist"
Is the "off" position
It is not a political party
Nor a religion
We are right
We are left
We are rich
We are poor
Some own guns
Others do not
Some like sports
Some read books
We do not worship
Comic book heros
We do not worship
Comic book villains
It is not a religion
It would be the same
To claim bald is a hair color
Which to us would be insane
We are individuals
Just like cats
Different personalities
And different tastes
Don't try to put us
In a box
Don't try to say
What we advocate
There is only one thing
We have in common
Lack of belief
In all sky heros
By proxy of label
It does not make
Automatically moral
Although our educated would claim
That our behavior
As a species
Both good and bad
Is evolutionary
Valuing health care
Or livable wages
Does not make atheists
Anti business
We can hate
Abuse of power
And the likes
Of Hitler and Stalin
From King's advocates
To Bill Gates and Steve Jobs
We cover all classes
And economic views
You cannot herd us
On politics
You cannot herd us
Anymore than cats.
So of your stereotypes
I would advise
Individuals do treat us
For that would be wise
You cannot herd us
On politics
You cannot herd us
Anymore than cats.
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Army Ants, By Brian37
Prolific breeders
Fierce fighters
Attacking all insects
Deemed outsiders
Building colonies
And living bridges
Passing food sources
In Olympic relay
Yet that success
Is unaware
Of the monsoons
In dry river bed homes
Oh so proud
We stupidly are
Of the anthills
We produce
Above evolution
We see ourselves
When our extinction
By our own hand we rush
The monsoon of ignorance
Will wash us away
Because the dry riverbed
We have created
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Don't Threaten Me, By Brian37
You gave me no consent
In this set up
Then blame me stupidly
For the actions that you took
I am not your spouse
Or your girlfiend
If I chose to leave
You will follow me
If for the door I run
You'll grab me by my hair
Beat the shit out of me
Because I'd had enough
Then you'll say you did it
For my own good
You do it out of love
A complete and utter fraud
Is this your divine morality
That I am mere property
My choice is submission
Or burn eternally?
You have a twisted sense
Of what love is
The only thing you love
Is spreading this stupid myth
How can using threats
Or that of bribery
Be considered moral
Or of maturity
I am divorced
In reality
If I did to her
What your god does to us
I would be in prison
And of such I would deserve
I find God's morals repugnant
And refuse to call that love
Don't you threaten me
For thinking for myself
Don't you threaten me
Tyrant cosmic bully
I know you are not real
And that reality I thank
But for the morons who believe
Throw this concept in the trash
Love is not selfish
Nor lives under threat
Love is not treating others
Like property or that of pets
No I will not submit
Loath myself not I
The concept one must swallow
For your power to stay alive
I know too much
Of reality
For such antiquated bullshit
To ever control me
Do not threaten me
I am not a toy
I am not trash
For you to throw away
If I want to leave
I can and I will
No one owns my brain
I will not drink your swill
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Idol To Say, By Brian37
Insightful words
Not prophecy
Merely a good guess
At the nature of reality
Atheists are capable
Jefferson did say
Of morality
And to claim "as some do"
"That no such thing exists"
He called it "Idol" and rightfully so
Way before Darwin...
Had no way to know
That human morality
Derived not from clergy
But outside these inventions
Our common existence
The Imam and Rabbi
Pastor and Monk
Shaman or Lama.
Have nothing to sell
Invent not morality
Did any of them
Always it's been
Our species has held
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I Dare You, By Brian37
Gutless coward
Don't be half assed
Do all of what
That horrible book says
"Abomination" you so claim
Then stone them
You fucker
Obstain from shellfish
Man lies with man
Or sticks on the Sabath
Disobiedient child
STONE ALL OF THEM
You cant you wont
You have not the guts
For to do all
Of what it says
Word for word
Verse for verse
Your god commands you
To murder others
I dare you you fucker
To go all the way
To show us your bigotry
And hatred you sell
Hypocrites be such
You look to the East
Rightfully condemning
Their barbarity
You selfishly claim
Morality
While oppressing others
With joy and glee
I dare you fucker
Do what it says
Murder others
Because they dissent
Out of context
Is your dodge
Ignoring that zealots
Are more devoute
They get it right
Take it to heart
Do what it says
At all costs
If you want
To make the claim
That your book
Our laws do come
Then you must
Do what it says
And become the monster
That your god is
If not the case
Then keep your book
Out of our laws
AND SHUT THE FUCK UP
But if you do
Make the attempt
To incorporate religion
Into our laws
You give us no choice
To make the fight
Against theocracy
And its ignorance
I dare you
You cant you wont
No longer will you
Bully the rest of us
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Eviscerate, By Brian37...
Gacys outwardly
Seemed ok
Pretty paintings
The frightening clown
He owned a business
He made children laugh
But under the floorboards
Bodies he'd stash
"What is the harm"
"Who does it hurt"
"Dont blaspheme religion"
The PC insist
What is the downside
If my words do shame
"The gangs of Abraham"
Stop their deadly game
The serial killer
Needs arrest
Eviscerate ignorance
At every chance
I will not let
This monster hide
Behind any excuse
Of tradition or pride
If of concern
These prose do cause
Instead of real horrors
In human cost
Adjust you might
Need to do
Your priorities
And where they should be
If all to slumber
Want to reach
Without fear of harm
Then I'd suggest
Suggest to you
Aim not at me
Any scorn
Of my blasphemy
Eviscerate superstition
Do it with scrutiny
Allow
The bitching
Pretty paintings
Pepper those books
Drawing the reader
Into his layer
Allowing them
To become the victim
Victimize others
All for nothing
Gacy is in all us
Our entire history
Of putting fantasy first
Instead of reality
Acid on
A woman's face
If you deem ok
You deserve all scorn
If a Koran
Is defaced
How stupid are you
It can be replaced
If in urine
Christ is placed
Your more concerned
Than that of starvation
What kind of god..
Should be concerned
Of mere name calling
Considering the news
Gacy you monster
You are not one
You are history
For all of ignorance
You must be caught
And detained
You must not be allowed
To have any reign
Do you not care
You evil clown
The body count
You have amassed?
Eviscerate
Every lie
Give it no reprieve
Where ever it hides
In every culture
In every land
No more monsters
Should we have
Pretty words
Only fool
And district us from
The nasty things we do
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Everyone Is Replacable, By Brian37
The maffia Don,
Just like a God
With his weight did throw
Me to the curb
I am a mere wrench
A colomn in Quick Books
To which ink of red
He will despense with
Now that I'm gone
Others remain
Under his threats
They must know their place
When will they learn
Most likely never
Humans are not tools
Or disposable ever
Rule by fear
Is not compassion
Obey or else
Teaches us nothing
But to abuse
And only to use
Our fellow humans
Is no excuse
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It's All In Your Head, By Brian37
Today on Facebook
I saw a cute meme
One of a cat
Looking at a laptop screen
The screen saver
Was that of a lioness
Inplying the cat's desire
To be the lioness
It is wanting the butterfly
In the inkblot
To be a real butterfly
Even though it is not
This is the same
In that of god/s
A mere reflection
Of human's desires
The covered olives at Halloween
In darkened room
Told they are "eyeballs"
You touch them and scream
The claims of gods
We have not at birth
Aduts infect kids with them
When they are defensless
It is the illusion
Of the lioness
Of the of the butterfly
That doesn't exist
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Anti Venom, By Brian37
Out of a book
The comand is made
"Take them up
Don't be afraid"
They dance and sing
And speak in tounge
A rattling tail
Slithers along their arms
They are not trappers
Called to a house
To remove such danger
From where they dwell
They are not biologists
Nor extracting venom
In order to save lives
Of accidental bites
They read some words
Then react in horror
When reality bites them
Because of what they needlessly swallowed
"Take them up"
With out question
Because it says so
Makes you an idiot
The anti venom
The only cure
Is to take that book
For what it really is
Nothing to value
Or hold to be true
The baby's rattle
Is the poison in you
Your childish faith
That makes you blind
You take stupid risks
Because of this
The toxin is you
In your bad logic
To do insane things
Over a stupid verse
It degrades your reason
Decaying your brain
Paralizes your ability
To avoid such things
The babby's rattle
Diomond delusions
Backed up by religon's
Fangs of illusions
You are the serpant
Biting yourself
In love with the venom
Manufactured by ignorance.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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555-3268, By Brian37
Chasing the bus
He scurries
Down the stairs
To give her the music box
He taught her about
Trafic lights
Crossing the street
To find her way
Salina learned
Of rotery phones
Desperately wanting
To escape her home
Gordan met her
In the park
Where she strung beads
Under the tree
The park her respite
To escape the abuse
Rose-Ann her mother
Made her desperate
The constant fights
In the apartment of squalar
Ole Pa on the bottle
Nothing to look forward to
But Gordon new better
Than that evil wench
Saved her from the rain
The blind girl was caught in
He spoke of brail
And of going to school
Something he knew
She could really do
The music box
Spoke of love
And was why
He put her on the bus
(The END)
This is my second poem about the movie "A Patch of Blue". It has to be one of my favorite movies of all time. Yes it was about race relationships. But I really identify with the blind girl beyond that issue. As a kid I wanted to escape the bullies and bigotry I grew up with. And although I know my parents love me, they were authoritarians whom had a hard time with a boy being sensitive. I identify with her becuase deep inside her character was a girl who simply wanted to be happy and it seemed that the world wanted to suck the happiness out of her. It wasn't until I became an adult that I learned that other people's baggage didn't have to be mine. Today was the second time I saw this movie, and I am quite sure every time I watch it, it will make me cry. (FYI, the phone number in the title(I hope I wrote it down right) is the number she learns to dial in the phone booth.
If you have not seen that movie, it is a must see!
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Arbor Day, By Brian37
First name Ann
In the mitten state
The Arbor tree
Grew up with hate
Shouts of "nigger"
And "white power"
One of the bigots
Lost his way
He found himself
Outside his ranks
Surrounded by
Those he hated
The angrey mob
Punched and kicked
His face, his back
To the ground he went
Emotions high
Understandably so
But one black lady
Understood
Keshia stepped in
To cover the bigot
In fetal position
Outumbered and surrounded
Why protect
Such vile people
Why not let them
Beat him up
The cowaring coward
Was outnumbered
And her compassion
Was better than he'd give
She dispised his hate
But also knew
In the face of bigotry
The mob should not rule
To do to him
Would be no better
Than white mobs
Would do to her
Some time later
His son found her
And thank her for
Protecting his father
Compassion rests
Not in being free
Of hatefull words
Or vile decree
Compassion rests
In all of us
To do the right thing
Even when offended
To be vigilantes
Is nothing to aspire
Humanity's lesson
Is Keshia's desire
(end)
A picture posted on Facebook based on a real news story that took place in the 90s inspired this poem. It was about a black woman protecting a KKK member who had seperated from the protest area who was suddenly surrounded by those he hated. There would have been a time when I was younger where I might have joined in in beating that bigot up. Keshia Thomas covered the guy who ended up in the fetal position surrounded by those atempting to beat him.
She is an inspiration to humanity. It isn't compassion to silence people that hate you. It is compassion to treat them better than they would treat you.
This was real life. But prior to this way back in the 70s this act of compassion was the script for an episode of The Jeffersons. George found out that white bigots were going to hold a rally at a hotel. He showed up just to witness it so they would have to say it to his face. The head speaker of the rally in the middle of his hate filled speech suffered a heart attack. George knew CPR and preformed it on the bigot. The guy survived and still said "I wish you had let me die". But that display of compassion, even though lost on the bigot, showed the audience how wrong they were, and even the son in the episode ended up realizing how wrong his bigoted father was.
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If You Build It, By Brian37
On top is perched
A symbol of torture
Inscribed long after
"Jesus is Conquerer"
Caligula tyrannus
Stole the Obelisk
Brought it to Rome
Resides in the square
The inscription
Is not what they claim
It is nothing more
Than the childish game
Who is up first
You dangle the bat
Hand over hand
Untill one reaches the top
The shaft of Baal
Atop it sits
"Love over evil"
Is not what it means
Why the same lexicon
Of absoltute power
Discriptions of Kings
Which the church had defeated?
You did not
Fix anything
Merely shift power
To a new ignorance
He was no Pharaoh
Or living God
Anymore
Than Jesus is
No autruism
Or peace to be had
Just hand over hand
Is all it was
Tranny
Never left
It was simply
A power shift
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Neil Before Me, By Brian37
The vacuous mind rot
Scourge of most media
Shows of "reality"
Reflecting no such thing
A beacon of reason
Revived once more
Sagan once hosted
Now on Sundays again
Neil before me
Enlightening humanity
Fear has no respite
When faced with reality
Comets worldwide
Most humans feared
Neil before me
Said it was needless
That when we question
When we observe
Real predictions
Can we rightfully glean
Neil before me
With real tools
Observation and testing
Control groups and peer review
On an Empire street
In the Apple they met
Sagan before him
Was the path that led
Seth the producer
Saw the value
Neil to reality
The Cosmos we value
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If I Had My Way By Brian37,
Entropy confirms
Energy transfer
Will never
Lead to such
To think of whims
In terms of utopias
To thus of boarders
Are absurd nonsense
Our conflict resides
In all of us
Stupidly thinking
It all matters
Time frame lost
To a universe
That will continue
Without any of us
If I had my way
I'd been not rejected
By my high school pine
Who had no interest
If you had your way
I would submit
Conform to you
And by way of force
If I had my way
There would be no death
No pain or suffering
Or any conflict
No old age
No wars or crime
No disease
Or suffering
"If I had my way"
We'd all say
Our narcissism
It only conveys
One of the same
We've always been
That after resources
Is all it is.
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I Don't Want, By Brian37....
I don't want
To hear
How good
Your day has been
I don't want
To hear
About
Mundane things
Not when you
Talk of such
Living in a bubble
Ignoring others
It's not your fancy
Or or good fortune
But your ignorance
When others suffer
In fancy car
You boast about
While others scramble
For loafs of bread
I don't want
To listen to
How big your mansion is
While others scrounge
Yes you made it
And did so big
And what do you offer
Other than bragging rights
To sit on crystal
Or throne of gold
To offer diamonds
None can ingest
Is a monument
Built to self
Not for improvement
For those with less
It is the mirror
The jaded do gaze
Upon themselves
They masturbate
I don't want
To hear a thing
About your achievements
That do nothing
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Play Nice, By Brian37............
Some say
When faced
With vitriol
"Play nice"
It would be nice
In every case
To respond
With "play nice"
Unfortunately
In reality
You cant respond
In every case
Even without
Blasphemy....
"That is not true"
Will solicit hate
Nigerian girls
Abducted
You think you can
Reason with such?
Climate deniers
Investing in fuel
Destroying our planet
Leading gullible fools
I think the point
Missed in good intent
Always will be
Those who don't relent
No matter how placid
Your dissent
Your rightful objections
Will offend
"Play nice"
Is fine in context
Still other times
You must be blunt
Do not ask me
To favor one tactic
There is no one
Blanket solution
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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Female Deliverance, By Brian37.....
The 70s and 80s
Were very gory
In their depictions
Of horror movies
One little known
Had no Ned
Or squealing pigs
In of isolation
A female writer
On sabbatical
Encountered men
After her
The lake house
In upstate
She thought she'd find
An oasis
Yet the vultures
Captured her
Ravaged her
In brutal meter
Taking turns
Thus defiled
The viewer empathized
Wanting revenge
Over the course
Of this movie
One by one
She she picked them off
Inviting the mastermind
Into a bath
Claiming to like it
She convinced the man
Knife under mat
He was unaware
Of his loins
She'd make short order
Stroking her rapist
In the ivory tub
He had no clue
Of of the sudden slice
Ejaculate
He thought it was
To his surprise
His own blood
She locked him in
The bathroom
To bleed him out
For raping her
The rest of his friends
Fell the same
She got revenge
For what they did
(end)
Now while I am no fan of vigilante justice this poem does depict the theme of how women feel about rape and was graphically depicted in the slasher film "I Spit On Your Grave".
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Freaky, By Brian37............
You think of yourself solid
But the truth is much more odd
Particles and energy
Pass through you every single second
Atoms at conception
From the sperm and egg
Are not in you now
Long since discarded
The clock in the satellite
Runs at different pace
Has to be adjusted
Because of gravity's say
As fast as light can be
Not even it can escape
The gravity of a black hole
Sucked into a cosmic grave
More atoms in one eye
Outnumber the galaxies
In our known universe
Is freaky enough for me
Comic books of antiquity
Lack imagination
Mere reflections of a child
Who hasn't grown up yet
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Marketing, By Brian37.....
Epic of Gilgamesh
Has a flood story
The Code of Hammurabi
Speaks of "An Eye For and Eye"
Thot
Long before Jesus
Also cured blindness
Spit in the eye of Horus
El, Elohim and Yahweh
Long before the Hebrews
Were names of the divine family
In the Canaanite polytheism
Motifs of purity
Existed long before
In pagan mythology
Avoiding the birth canal
Pepsi verses Coke
Is really all it is
One sees the other
And tries to compete with them
Humans get their ideas
To create new religions
Just like every business
Competes for customers
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Don't Follow The Yellow Brick Road, By Brian37.......
Our ancient ancestors
Dreamed and dreamed
Filled in gaps
With fantastic claims
Understandably so
Of that Yellow Brick Road
Humans wallowed in
Their own ignorance
But now it makes no sense
For the giant house
Of overwhelming science
Has fallen on their witch
We need no magic slippers
Or con artists behind curtains
We've always been in Kansas
Where we've never left
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Insecure, By Brian37........
Infantile tyranny
Of the school yard bully
Falsely plays victim
When you call them out
Taboos they set up
Caring not for fact
Dare to question them
"Blasphemy" they will shout
If your claims were true
Easily you could prove
No need to run or hide
Or fear any testing
Insecure you are
So you will avoid
With threats of law
That you might be wrong
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Lost Puppies, By Brian37......
Face to face
Or on the net
Sometimes you run
Into these theists
They look at you
Like you are broken
Thinking pretty stories
Will be our cure
Most of the time
They are unaware
Of how well armed we are
In our knowledge
With their first post
Or first sentence
They offer you God..
As a life raft
Suddenly though
They quickly learn
We are not puppies
For them to train
They step in the ring
Unwittingly
Not understanding
It ain't so easy
We don't buy
Circular reasoning
Arguments from tradition
Or omni claims
Impress us not
Apologists
No matter the deity
They try to defend
If you care
To take a shot
Prove to us
There is a god
We don't mind
We love the frey
But don't be shocked
If we punch back
We are not lost
We've figured it out
Maybe you need to consider
We know more than you think
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Bread Line, Brian37........
You live in a tiny bubble
A lukewarm penthouse flat
With room for a Bentley and Rolls
Caviar and private jet.....
You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
You call it robbery
If someone suggests you share
One day you'll buy a poor town
Or put a pipeline in the country side
And for every tree you cut down
You'll add more stock to your pile
Pay workers a tiny salary
We've had enough of that
No money to make ends meet
For food or to pay the rent
You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
You call it robbery
If someone suggests you share
One day you'll rig a mortgage
Or take a risky bet
Dump your losses on the rest of us
And face no punishment
You don't worry about
The plight of others cares
Because you know
You don't care.
(end)
This poem is an ode to Harry Connic Jr, I hope you don't mind me flattering you but I love your music.
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Tough Guy, By Brian37......
If the first default position
Is using that of fists
If you have no desire
To use your intellect
To call that brave
Is naive
Requires no thought
Or research
All you are doing
Is protecting your ego
Nothing short
Of laziness
Yes I did
Dare to say
Soliciting your anger
You tense up
I see you flex
And coil back
Ready to strike me
Because I stood up
Not to counter
Physically
Unlike you
So desperately
I called you out
On your claims
Of to which
You took offense
I will not be frightened
Of your threats
Tough Guys think
They don't use their fists
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Despised By Brian37...
At a private school
I used to attend
Atop a hill
I was standing
A tall railing
Above a sidewalk
I was leaning
Looking down on the street
It was a field day
With lots of games
Outside we'd play
No nothing to study
On the road
A car passed by
It's right passenger tire
Kicked a rock to it's side
The driver heard the noise
Seeing me prior
When he approached
Assumed a kid had thrown it
He pulled in
And made his complaint
To the principle
To which I approached
"No one threw it
"I saw what happend
The tire kicked it up"
I became the suspect
He took us all in
To the lunch room
Until I confessed
Which I did not do
The day ended
With everyone angry
The kids and the staff
Were the lynch mob
So to this day
When I see presumption of guilt
People like Nancy Grace
Make society worse
Until you are put
In that scarey place
Unless you've been there
Of judgment you you face
There is a reason
We base things on facts
Not become vigilantes
It could be one of us
Think about
If it was you
Falsely accused
Of something you did not do.
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Epilogue, By Brian37......
Many times posed
A theist questions
"If nothing after
Then what is the purpose"
You go to a game
Root for your team
Some times you lose
Sometimes you win
You go to a concert
They play for a while
But after the encore
It is all over
You go to a movie
Good or bad
The credits still roll
Happy or sad
How many pets
Have you lost
You'll get another
Death doesn't stop you
So when you ask
The atheist
We are fine
Knowing it ends
What is the purpose?
It is simple
Live your life
Enjoy what you can.
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New Deli, By Brian37......
How many more Wayne?
You talk about rights
While Christopher dies
Two sorority girls expire on a lawn?
How many more Wayne?
These were legally purchased
It wasn't just mental illness
It is the flooded market
It is the ease of access
The volume being made
Protecting profit margins
Filling up the morgues
You selfishly
Protect an industry
That cares not
Who gets killed
All you are
Is a lobbyist
Filling your bank account
With blood money
From urban streets
To kids access
Abusive spouses
And criminals too
You blame the user
Make it legal vs illegal
When this is not
The real issue
300 million
Everywhere
How many more Wayne
Before it is clear
When parents lose children
Or children lose parents
The morgues fill up
Because of the flooded market
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Out Of Context, By Brian37.....
It's all right there
In back and white
I can read it too
Yet I am not right?
What if I find
Someone else
Who reads those same words
With different conclusions?
Multiple sects
Millennia of revisions
Yet out of billions of humans
You came to the right conclusions
Your vanity is showing
How special you are
The only one
To make it that far
If this be the case
Then tell me why
The rest of humanity
Is not on the same page?
Seems to lack
Efficiency
To allow all us humans
To fight over such
Not very smart
Of this boss
To delegate work
He can do himself.
Certainly
With more speed
He could write it himself
Considering his powers
Men out of dirt
A 6 day earth
Yet a thousand years
To write one book?
I am not taking it
Out of context
I am taking it
For exactly what it is
An ancient book
Written by ignorant men
It was never true
Even back then
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Futility, By Brian37
Undulate
In your pews
Prostrate
On your prayer mat
Recite the Torah
If you chose
Clandestine offerings
To yourselves
All your sages
That you follow
Hollow words
They.all bellow
Patent holders
They claim to be
Their god created
Our morality
And humans wonder
About our strife
Elusive peace
We never find
Our compassion
Resides in us
Not in ancient
Books of myth
If you are good
It is in you
Not a story
An old man sold you
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Our Climate Must Change, by Brian37
To long it took,
To remove
Leaded gas
From our vehicles
Nadar screamed
For decades
Cost of seat belts
Car companies complained.
Coal ash dumped
In Tar Heel rivers
Under cloak of secrecy
The same state delivers
Fracking now legal
No citizens questioned
You can be arrested
For exposing it's chemicals
Low tax rates
For the wealthy
Caused the great depression
And the great recession
It is obvious
That there is no "we"
In that of the "people"
In our rising oligarchy
Our climate must change
And put people first
Rule by one class
Only makes things worse
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Brutality, By Brian37
The lion kills
Rival cubs
Still humans thinK
Evolution we are above
We see rape
In other primates
And still we think
All life is pretty
50 million
Die worldwide
From everything
Year in year out
Disease and famine
Birth to old age
Crime and war
We still ignore
Religion offers
No solution
To problem solving
To our common existence
It gives rise
To brutality
Based on tribalism
And absurd claims
If of Allah
Or that of Yahweh
If of Jesus
Or that of Vishnu
If any of those
Were the cure
Certainly humans
Would have peace by now
Instead we see
Constant violence
Bigotry and hate
Even within the same ranks
Cruelty and compassion
Are in our evolution
Independent
Of tribal clubs
200 thousand
Years ago
Nothing today
That is believed
Was around then
And we still existed
Managed to reproduce
Evolution continued
Our flawed perceptions
In our club think
Leads to the brutality
We chose to ignore
Sunnis vs Shiites
Catholics vs Protestents
Jews vs Muslims
Changes not our evolution
Even with atheists
I always warn
Never to claim
"We'll treat you better"
"We'll treat you better"
Is no garantee
To stop even us
From the same brutality
Unfortunately
In reality
Compassion and cruelty
Work in evolution
To reduce
These such horrors
We must all accept
Our common existence
Short term thought
Is why we repeat
Why we ignore
Our brutality.
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Dictators, By Brian37
Ganghis Khan
And Po Pot
Caligula
The sane revile
So what defines
In these cases
Of the powers
They obtain
Final say
They all have
If they favor you
You can live
Where is the voting
And protection of dissent
Where is the sanctuary
Of those who object?
All we have to do
Is obey
Follow his laws
As he commands
When people claim
The other gods are wrong
What should we do
Except obey?
There can be
No objectivity
In any god claim
Demanding submission
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You do realize that half the people murdered in the spree you refer to were killed with a knife right? Of the people he attempted to murder, he had a much greater success rate with the knife than guns. The solution is obvious, replace all knives with guns.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
You "Other bad shit happens so lets not do anything about gun death." Still doesn't change that 3 of them were murdered with a gun.
You, "Someone stubbed their toe, MORE GUNS"......."Someone chipped a nail, MORE GUNS".
If guns are not candy and they are not, then they should not be made at the volume of candy or handed out as easily as candy. This is not about rights at all. You are the one who masturbates over how great the private sector is so you should understand what is causing this. MONEY and just like any industry guns are a business too and their CEO's job is to keep and or expand the market. The original NRA when it started was a safety organization and was not a heat sheild to protect profits for the industry, but now it is. You are out of your mind if you think 300 million guns is managable and will reduce gun injury and death. I'll make you a deal, I will shut up when we get our gun deaths down to that of Japans.
In a utopia world I wouldn't give one fuck who owns a gun, but the shear amount floating around and the eas of access is not managable currently. More guns will not solve shit and the status quo is unacceptable.
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...and they are not.
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--Hunter S. Thompson
Still doesn't change that 3 of them were murdered by knife and his success rate with the knife was 100%, while he was substantially less efficient with the gun. There are very good reasons for that, starting with a gun isn't a fucking miracle machine that means instant death to whoever you want to kill. It takes a lot of skill to kill a person with one shot, our SF guys fire litterally 10s of thousands of rounds to train themselves to achieve the feat of consistently killing people with one shot. Shot placement counts, something that fortunately, most mass murder wackos don't have. Usually because they buy a gun off the shelf, hit the range a few times (if that) and think they are going to mow people down by the dozens. Guns don't work like they do in the movies, trust me, I have killed a lot of living animals with guns.
No, they aren't. Guns are much better than candy, although Candy with a gun or two is pretty damn sexy.
They aren't.
Revenue of the gun industry: $12 billion. (including all guns, ammo and government sales)
Revenue of Nestle: $100 billion.
Since I know you are mathematically challengend $100 billion is much larger than $12 billion... and that is just one candy company. The whole candy industry is several hundred billion.
Number of new guns per year: 20 million (more than double the average of previous years, Obama has been great for the gun industry, but for the sake of your argument, we will assume that is the new normal) By the way, the fastest growing segment of gun owners are women, like Candy.
Number of Hershey bars sold per year: 123 million.
(123 million > 20 million)
How about weight?
I can't find a candy stat, but Americans eat over 2 BILLION pounds of chocolate per year. Just chocolate, a large piece of the candy market, but by no means all.
Guns? Impossible to calculate for sure, but lets go extreme. My most recent acquisition is system that is 19 pounds. It is a big fucking gun that is highly specialized, much heavier than what most people buy. Most pistols are measured in ounces and your typical hunting shotgun is going to be in the 5-7 pound range. But to give your argument a prayer, let's pretend that everyone who bought a gun, bought a 19 pound one. 19 * 20 million= 380 million pounds.
380 million < 2 billion
So how are you measuring? By revenue, number and weight, candy production far outstrips guns. (Yet, we all know you will continue with the lie)
Really? I've never had to even show my drivers license to purchase candy. For my last purchase, I had to pay in full up front and then fill out an application. The application required me to go to the local police station, get finger printed, provide two copies of my passport photo, pay a $200 extortion tax, wait for the fucking ATF to process my paper work and decide that I'm not a terrorist (5 months, fortunately, my gun was being custom made so the gun and supressor were able to be completed together) and then when I picked up my new gun, I had to fill out another form that will sit in a dusty file forever until the government decides they need to know who to kill first. All because I decided I would like my hearing to last until I am at least 60 and make my gun super deadly by adding a suppressor. Which makes it so quiet you can only hear it from about a mile away instead of ten miles.
You ever have to do that to buy candy? What kind of "candy" are you buying?
Obviously, you don't believe in rights, you believe in government tyranny as long as the government agrees with you.
Money doesn't cause anything. Money is a result. You get money by satisfying the demands of people. Right now, a lot of people want guns. Although, a lot more people want candy. If your sole goal is to become rich, candy is far more promising than guns. More demand, fewer regulations, fewer barriers of entry and a much larger profit margin. That is why you probably have a couple of local candy companies that make jellies or brownies of fudge or something, but probably don't have a local gun maker. The gun industry has pretty much consolidated into a couple of behemoths. The company that currently owns the worlds largest gun manufacturer (Freedom Group) is called Cerberus Capital has investments in excess of $20 billion and they've been looking to sell. Their gun investments are a drop in the bucket to them. There is no vast conspiracy and huge money in guns. At the level these companies play at, the gun industry is a rounding error. They aren't sitting in their offices thinking "guns guns guns!" they have some underling wall street weenie analyzing the market and telling them whether to buy or sell the company.
No, it was not a safety organization. The NRA was initially nothing more than a club of people who enjoyed shooting rifles and decided to organize it into a competition. It was, is and always has been an organization that mostly consists of target shooters and hunters. If you find a gun nut at an NRA convention, you better buy a lottery ticket because it is your lucky day. They never addressed the topic of safety until 1988 (over 100 years after its founding) with Eddie Eagle. The NRA is not, and never has been against gun control. They have always been and are now extremely weak on the subject. Which is why I am not a member.
Of course 300 million guns are manageable, that is less than one gun per person. I have 28 and I manage to shoot all of them on a fairly regular basis. I do have one shotgun that mostly collects dust because it was my grandfathers and wasn't cared for very well. I keep it more for sentimental reasons than anything. So call it 27 guns I manage. So don't worry, just like taxes, I am taking care of your fair share of the guns along with my own. Don't say I never do anything for you.
Well then you should be pushing for a police state. Have you ever studied Japan's justice system? (Yeah, I know you haven't) There is a reason they have low crime rates across the board. I wouldn't want to live in that kind of system, but it is very effective. All I have to say, is when you convict 99% of people, you are catching pretty much all the bad guys, but you are also putting a lot of innocents in prisons.
I agree. The status quo is extremely unacceptable. That is why we need more guns.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X