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Watch, meet rock.

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Submitted by Ophios on July 5, 2007 - 2:28pm.

I just wrote this little ditty on the Richard Dawkins forum.
A retort of the "Watch on the beach argument"

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Also because I hate the "let's compare living things to man-made things" argument.

Go to a stream, a stream that has lots of rocks. Pick up a rock, notice how smooth it is. Why do you think it is smooth?

ID is the equivalent of saying that people came by and smoothed the rocks and left them there yesterday.

Would you think that? Would you think that instead of water slowly smoothing the rock over time, that people came by here yesterday and scraped the rocks?

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Very nice. I myself like to

Submitted by todangst on July 5, 2007 - 3:03pm.

Very nice. I myself like to add that watches evolved! No one started out to 'make a watch', the watch was the end result of many people creating various inventions (springs, gears) all created for their own purposes which would eventually be subsumed cobbled together as a watch, which in turn underwent revision.

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todangst wrote: Very nice.

Submitted by zntneo on July 5, 2007 - 3:12pm.

todangst wrote:
Very nice. I myself like to add that watches evolved! No one started out to 'make a watch', the watch was the end result of many people creating various inventions (springs, gears) all created for their own purposes which would eventually be subsumed cobbled together as a watch, which in turn underwent revision.

 

Oh the irony! 

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todangst wrote: Very nice.

Submitted by marcusfish on August 10, 2007 - 4:49pm.

todangst wrote:
Very nice. I myself like to add that watches evolved! No one started out to 'make a watch', the watch was the end result of many people creating various inventions (springs, gears) all created for their own purposes which would eventually be subsumed cobbled together as a watch, which in turn underwent revision.

I have seen you use that one before, it's a wonderful refute to the Watch on the Beach scenario. So clever. But the stones in the river thing I've never heard. Thats very handy and I'll be storing it along side todangst watch evolution.

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