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Just spent the first 4 hours of my day on dishonest Christians here on RRS

What is with the dishonest Christians? Today I wake up and have to deal with Joshua Ryan Dellinger and then another dishonest Christian who has gone by several names on our site: Voice of Reason, Bryan Cox, and Riverwind. When I say deal I mean "moderating."

Here's where you'll see the first character exposed: http://www.rationalresponders.com/Joshua_Ryan_Dellinger

For the record, Kelly and I have been doing this for a long time, while Joshua Ryan Dellinger didn't say he was a Christian, his argumentation resembles that of a Christian perfectly, and he's become a Christian pawn at the bare minimum.

The second character was exposed in a post by me on this page: http://www.rationalresponders.com/damn_right_im_angry_part_two?page=2

You win Christians... 4 hours of my day was just wasted researching and keeping dishonest people in check, when instead I could've been proactively fighting the concept of religion, instead of the personalities who embrace it. How ironic that your arguments almost beg us to deal with the concepts rather than the personalities. I'll try to find some solace in exposing you to others but it's not as useful to me as the 4 hours you stole... terrorists.

 

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Lessons From Mental Retardation

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Lessons from Mental Retardation

 

I think I have given a general overview of what the vibe was like for me when I first started my work at the Lubbock State School.  I did this job on and off for over a year. In hindsight its my favorite job I have ever held outside of scientific research.  It was always exciting, and I could fill a book with stories about it.  Maybe if someday I actually accomplish something worthwhile I will write a memoir.

The important thing for now though is what I learned from these experiences.

At the time I began my work at the Lubbock State School I was a charismatic Christian.

This caused me to hold certain doctrinal assumptions.

1.) One of which is that there was a soul that was somehow separate from the body, and therefore immune to decay and eternal.

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Mental Retardation

Mental Retardation

My experiences working at the Lubbock State School did much to shape my worldview to this day.

During the two week training class they had us convinced of two things. The first thing is that retarded people were going to kick our asses. This is something that may be hard to imagine, but let me help you out. Retarded people age normally, a 25 your old retarded man is just as big as a 25 year old man. There are just as many 6'4 250 lbs. retarded people as there are 6'4 250 lbs. people in general. Retarded people can get really big, and since their cognitive abilities are hindered, they can be extremely agressive. Imagine a 6'4 250 lbs. 2 year old, it can be a bit of a nightmare. The second thing they convinced us of was that if we did anything about it we would be charged with criminal abuse and neglect charges.

I was scared out of my mind.

The dorms that we worked at in the Lubbock State School were divided by function of the clients. And when I say client or individual it means retarded person. Some dorms were non-ambulatory which means that these were adults who had to be fed and have their diapers changed. I did not work at one of these dorms, at least not usually.

Check out Kelly in Dailykos, Rook on Atheist Viewpoint

Kelly is now featured on Dailykos: http://kelly-oconnor.dailykos.com/

The subject of Kelly's most recent blog is Marty Fields.  If you're viewing this thread while the post is still hot, google "Marty Fields" to see where the post comes up in google.  When I checked it was 7th, and the first listed refutation.  Marty Fields is posting in the thread as "Pastor McFly."

Today Rook taped with Ellen Johnson, President of American Atheists.  He's a guest on their TV show Atheist Viewpoint.  More details will be posted in this thread soon.

 

 

Rational Response Squad buys ad in Church section of newspaper!

Welcome aboard, readers of Bastrop Daily!

As you may know we've been advertising the Rational Response Squad anywhere we can find a good deal, and as the budget permits. This week because we initially hoped to have site upgrades working by today we had a few ads run in print newspapers through google ads. We've found a few surprisingly cheap ads, the ad below ran in the Louisiana Bastrop Daily Enterprise, Church Section. We didn't plan the juxtaposition of ads below but we love it...

Paper: "The popularity of religion as a whole may be in a slight decline here in America, but that certainly doesn't mean the Holy Book's reputation as being a perennial No. 1..."

RRS: "Religion is divisive and dangerous, it's time for us to stand up to it!"

We have been heard!

 

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Support the Rational Response Squad advertising campaign. This ad cost $8 for 6,000 readers.

View a large JPG of the Rational Response Squad ad in the Balstrop Daily Enterprise near a Bible article.

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The Retarded, Punk Rockers, Christianity and Me

When I was in my early 20s I was in an interesting predicament. I had acquired a job as a tattoo artist, and became bored with the work. Really bored, most people wanted extremely popular tattoos and it gets old really fast.  I was also in the height of my Christian beliefs, and I had intended to start a Christian half-way house for punkrock kids that had been couch surfing or straight up living on the street. I tried to do this in my one-bedroom apartment.

The name of the project was “The House of Calvary,” which was bullshit because it was just my one bedroom apartment with a bunch of kids living in it at any given time. I could tell some stories about all that, and maybe I will so can read about how many blood, sweat and tears I spent trying to do things right by my beliefs.

Let it suffice to say that I took in a lot of homeless kids into my shitty little apartment over the course of a year in order to try to live my beliefs.

I bring this up because two of the people living with me would just not get a job. They would stay at home all day and would not make a move to get going.

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One Example

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Damn Right I'm Angry: Part Two

Read Part One 

The Jewish Aphilosopher   (Yeah - the A was intentional - figure it out)
 

 

Conflating Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy, of which I am not a fan, with atheism before the actual article even begins is just the tip of the iceberg. His depiction of atheists is nothing short of bigoted and disgusting. He's "The Jewish Philosopher"? I can't even find the philosophy under the pile of steaming shit that he excreted onto his site. I'm telling you this up front only because you're going to need those hip-high waders and possibly protection for your monitor before reading further.

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Damn Right I’m Angry: Part One

Kelly O'Connor
02/13/08

I don't find it surprising that the two writers I will be addressing here find atheists to be angry, selfish, and in one case, diseased. The patronizing attitudes of these men would drive the most timid among us into a fit. So, obviously, I nearly convulsed while reading these two articles-both full of condescension; spewing venomous rhetoric that does nothing more than add up to one giant attack on the character of everybody without a belief in their mythological friend.

Marty Fields, a pastor at a Presbyterian Church, and Jacob Stein, an orthodox Jew who has mistaken his skill in fallacious argumentation for philosophy: You two are winning the award for "Arrogant Deluded Fatuous Pricks of the Year." It's a coveted prize, and you were nearly overtaken by Dinesh D'Souza, but even he isn't this moronic.

Marty Fields, who will not be addressed as "Reverend" here as I have no reverence for him or his ilk, wrote an op-ed entitled "Angry Atheists". He starts out by accusing atheists of being philosophical dilettantes, using the "same old tired arguments that you heard in your freshman philosophy class." Ironic, coming from a proponent of a religion that hasn't come up with a new argument in 2000 years. I think that tops freshman year philosophy, eh?

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The Power of Politeness

The blog beneath will be posted on all of my other blogs sometime erly tommorrow.

 I am posting it here first because I have something to say to my fellow Rational Responders.

The RRS is under assault from fellow atheists and skeptics.

I think this harms our cause and our movement, we are already vastly outnumbered, and cannot afford to be so hated by our own.

The RRS saw the deconversion of about 200 newly rational minds in 2007, and as Brian has said, lets see the other groups numbers.

This is the most effective method of outreach that exists right now. The other methods are comfortable for the atheist and inefective.

What I propose is that we as the RRS take the initiative to go on skeptic and atheist forums and create a thread about the RRS where we point out that the methods of the RRS are polite to theists, and merely engage in the conversational intolerance described in Sam Harris's "The End of Faith.

People do not understand that the RRS is never mean to the theists who it confronts, and in many cases I have heard  the RRS be down-right loving with callers on the "Christain Interventions" section of the free shows.

This is crucial.

I think that it should not be Rook, Brian, Kelly, Greydon, or any of the major leadership of the RRS who do this forum campaign. It should be us, the rank and file membership.

It is too easy for arm-chair atheists to question the effectiveness of the RRS, when they repeatedly see the same few faces and screenames over and over again.

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