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why do girls do it?
Posted on: January 23, 2011 - 12:33am
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why do girls do it?
why they just use sex to get what they want?
i hate it it make us object only for men not for us
watch this
they just parade around to please men and get money
i not drunk i just have a few drinks but i see it everywhere and hate it
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Would anyone here agree that fertility is a commodity?
If you feel that teen sex, provocative clothing, etc... is 'wrong' then keep it out of your life. It doesn't matter what others think about it.
I don't think people, for the most part, do something because they think it is right. I think they decide what they like and don't like and then come up with their own reasons for why what they like is right and what they don't like is wrong.
If girls want to dress like tramps, that's fine for them but, they shouldn't be surprised when others call them tramps.
If a guy goes into a bar looking for a quickie and sees two girls, one dressed like a tramp and another covered head to toe, which girl will he hit on?
If another guy goes into the same bar and is looking for intelligent conversation, which one will he talk to?
Personally, I'd rather communicate with what's between my ears than what's between my legs... but, I'm not hormonal and looking for a mate.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
while this is all very well, in a meaningful relationship it's best to communicate with your body and your mind. People I only communicate via mind with are called mates, I don't want to hold them in my arms at night.
The idea that sexuality is somehow related to base feelings that are unworthy or grubby in some way is silly and dangerous. Sex has a meaning and mind and body are profoundly connected.
Men often get accused of thinking with their small heads but there's no point in devoting your sensual loyalty to a woman's complete disinterest. Having wasted too much of my life doing this it's one of the first boxes I tick.
Being in love with a partner who is also your lover is singularly sweet. The alternative is intolerable.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
Alcohol is good for the brain
I agree that it is subjective at some point, but I'd still rather base my reaction to something besides how it makes me feel.
I'm not sure I understand your strong reaction to displayed sexuality, you've said a lot about how it makes you feel but you've not really given a reason why you should pay any attention to those feelings.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
I tend to agree with the Captain's position but there's no pressure to live a life half naked. Most people turn their backs on this stuff by the time they are 30 or so anyway (well, most the time at any rate).
I agree that endless focus on physicality is erroneous and cheapens things that should be special. But as I said earlier, in the real day to day world this focus is mostly invisible. I'm at work today and all day I've not seen any evidence of outrageous sexuality.Maybe it comes out at the club on Friday/Saturday night.
I think you can disprove of hyper sexuality without being ruled by your annoyance. The world is full of normal people going about their business with a lot of clothes on.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
Dude, you're starting to sound like my ex...
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Sorry, mate. I'll stop now.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
I thought it was funny more than anything... she's 6~ years younger than you.
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
If a person determines his mate on sex appeal alone, at some point in time he will be disappointed.
It's odd that humans, like other animals, use sexual tactics to attract a mate but, unlike most other non-monogamous animals, humans are expected to keep a mate for life. What happens when the initial sexual attraction fades away? They lose interest and look for another that fits the bill.
People who hop from bed to bed aren't looking for anything but sex. Those who are looking for a more meaningful relationship look for qualities that last a lifetime, imo. At least I do.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Another thing to consider... all of the hotties that pineapple has posted pictures of will one day have sagging boobs, butts and jowls. What will be left to admire about them then?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Yes it is odd, which is exactly why it is absurd how insistent people are that someone find one and only one person to have sex with their entire lives.
I hear a rumor that Rich has a book coming out about the subject.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
Their giant bank accounts and lives of leisure? Lol.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Cute come back but, they don't count - they are material things the person temporarily possesses, just like looks, not qualities of the person.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Why wouldn't they count? They will 'temporarily' possess those things until the day they die.
Seriously, these people are rich, famous, accomplished, they have resources to do whatever they want and they got them using hard work and dedication. The scorn you send their way seems totally un-earned. I can understand not admiring them, but I can't understand calling them sluts, and sneering based on a performance. It would be like calling Alice Cooper a devil worshiping deviant and hating him on a personal level because you watched a clip of him performing.
To top it all off, what, exactly, is wrong with promiscuity? Honest question.
You don't know anything about their character, interests, drives, goals, how they use their wealth, power and influence...none of it. All you did was watch 30 seconds of a Youtube video and spit some bile, and that doesn't make sense to me.
Now, if you can show they are miserable, wretched people who case pain and suffering everywhere they go I might be inclined to agree with you about the negatives of their life style. Also, if you just say, "their music sucks" that is fine because that is a subjective aesthetic thing. But you seem to be condemning them for no other reason than your personal distaste of their actions, without any real justification.
If you have justification why not write it out and explain, that would help the Captain answer her original question anyway, right?
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
By the way, I'm fairly amused that Ms. Pineapple changes her avatar when writing as her alter ego.
The continued obsession with the Pussycat Dolls is interesting too, as, personally, I think there are better sexual fixations to be enamored with.
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I also think the point made earlier about the audience for this sort of thing being largely women is worth follow-up for sober-Pineapple. Is this true? If so, why?
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Plus, all the usual comments Re: Seek professional help before you're dead in a dumpster outside a sleazy bar, Captain.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Name? Any info on it currently? Will you let us know when it is out?
What's wrong with being overtly sexual? What's wrong with earning a living in a way which doesn't please every single person on the planet? The question has been answered many times in this thread. It's interesting to see so much bull-like resistance to the obviousness of the truth.
It seems that everyone has at least one topic about which they won't even *try* to be reasonable. We usually just see the thing that we hate, we tell people that we hate it, damn anyone who has differing opinion, and we decide that we are correct and justified in said hatred. This is, of course, removed from whether or not our arguments are sound (or whether or not we have actually made any).
It is dangerous, as has been said in this thread already. It is this kind of blind adherence to hate which leads us away from progressing toward enlightenment. This kind of bludgeoning moral objectivity is what leads men (as in man-kind) to oppress his fellows.
Incredibly intelligent women will age and develop Alzheimer's Disease with a sagging atrophied brain. What will be left to admire about them then?
Clearly the answers to your question and mine are essentially the same. We still admire Sophia Loren and Raquel Welch for their former youth and sex appeal. The same applies to an intellect stricken with irreversible dementia. We would all still admire her.
And believe it or not there are many men who are sexually attracted to old, fat women with sagging boobs. Look at all the bbw porn sites.
Now maybe it's just me but given the choice, I would readily want to fuck the 70 year old Raquel who now has the sagging tits. As CJ once said on an alternate thread, sometimes a clad older woman can make a guy cream his shorts because of his dirty imagination of what's inside the packaging. The question is why? Most likely because of her raunchy past (as in the earlier photo) and the fact that she could make any man drop to his knees and beg like a pathetic dog and thus make his prick juice flow.
Prick juice? Lol.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Just curious...do any of you free-for-all men have a daughter?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Do you have a penis?
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Oh, nice photo of Raquel!
Looks exactly like me from the neck down...except that she's an 'outie' and I'm an 'innie'.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
No. So, answer the question: Do any of you have a daughter?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
It isn't relevant. It it were relevant, you'd not be able to talk about how men, 'think with their dicks', not having one yourself. You'd not be able to talk about famous bands if you had not been in a famous band. Etc.
Either you can address someone's arguments rationally or you can't. What you could do is perhaps leverage your own experiences relating to a particular thing and use that as an anecdote to support an argument, but your basic argument still needs to have merit rather than appealing to emotion.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Two daughters, and if you noticed I did NOT make a post here nor at any other of cpt.pineapple's 'drinking posts'.
"Very funny Scotty; now beam down our clothes."
VEGETARIAN: Ancient Hindu word for "lousy hunter"
If man was formed from dirt, why is there still dirt?
Which can also help with their problems with sagging boobs, butts and jowls. Money can't solve all your problems but in can alleviate many of the symptoms.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
This is true but, money can't fix a lousy personality or, skanky behavior.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
If you have a daughter, I'd like to know how you allow her to dress when leaving your home (assuming she is still under 21...what they do after that is pretty much beyond your control).
If you don't have a daughter then you have NO IDEA what it is like to have one and you have no idea what it feels like to have some guy drool and leak penis juice all over himself looking at her if she is dressed like a whore.
These facts are very relevant to the topic.
You feel you have the right to an opinion on what is acceptable attire for girls not related to you yet, if you have no daughter, it is impossible to know how a father feels when his daughter is the recipient of lustful ogling.
You are still entitled to have an opinion, just not one from a fathers pov.
So, does anyone besides Jefrick have a daughter?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
So Sandy, are you a father?
OK, not a father here but even so, it bugs me when I see 14 year old girls dressed like harlots. Not so much because of them as the fact that their fathers are letting them go out of the house like that. WTF are fathers letting the kids out of the house like that? It seems like fathers are getting the kiddies trained to be some dude's fuck toy. How is this not wrong?
Past that, I assume that you don't really know what you mean when you talk about dripping fuck juice. Let me tell you a bit and see if you get the same level of revulsion.
So you are checking out some stroke sites on the intarwebs. Then you click a link only to see a 14 year old chick getting rodgered roundly. That does not happen very often but when it does, you cannot click the back button fast enough.
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But I have 7 nieces and I'm pretty close to 2 of them (they are in their late 20s now with kids of their own). I made the point upthread and I'll make it again in relation to these kids in my family. None would get about dressed in the sort of attire being discussed here and very few girls would - none I know. I guess there are some who do but they are a minority.
Are guys really leaking over girls in this way. Who are these guys? I can recall having desire for young women as a young man but that desire came packaged with a full suite of feelings that had some nobility to them. Maybe the internet has destroyed all the sweetness of that young stuff. Or maybe I'm just too old for this rapidly degenerating thread.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
I don't have a daughter, but we aren't talking about what teenagers wear. That is 100% up to their parents. If some dad wants to for his daughter to wear a burkha, a mascot suit or a bubble that is his business. When she turns 18 she can leave her parents oppression and dress however she likes. If parents don't mind their daughters wearing tight clothes and short skirts that is also their business. I don't have kids so as a rule I don't tell parents how to raise their kids even if I think it is ridiculous. Well I try not to, sometimes I can't keep my mouth shut even when I try real hard, I'm sure that surprises everyone here.
Everyone who is going into a club "dressed like a tramp" is over 18 and usually over 21. All strippers in the US are over 18 and in many states are required to be over 21. The Pussycat Dolls are all over 21, actually I think most of them are closer to 30.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
But I see what you are getting at, I think. You feel that there is a certain age when dressing like a slut is acceptable, before that age, it's not. Why?
A daughter is always a daughter, no mater how old she is and although I'm not a father, I would assume that if it breaks a father's heart to see his 16 year old daughter dress like a slut, he would feel the same way no matter what her age. Well, unless the dude is a piece of trash, too... or, her pimp.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Well Sandy, at what age does a woman have the right to dress as she pleases?
I am going to go with this: Once she goes off to college, dad+mom no longer have a commanding voice. Before that, it really bugs me when I see 14 year old girls dressing like they want to be breeders.
So am I in a position to tell them how to dress? No. Are dad and mom in that position? Certainly. And I see plenty of families who are allowing this to happen.
Past that, should a 40 year old man be concerned about how his 20 year old daughter dresses? Well, it is fully appropriate that he be concerned for the health and safety of the woman. However, at that point, she is a woman and what choices she makes are her own.
Should an 80 year old man be concerned with the choices that his 60 year old daughter makes? Well, the point where he could make a difference happened before his grand kids were born.
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Yes I do have a daughter but this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, sexuality and sex are 2 different things, for example, how many men can you honestly tell any of the pussy cat dolls have slept with, how about just one of them, say the lead singer? How many men has Megan Fox slept with? She is hot and many men and women consider her to be sexually attractive and she does dress the part, however is she a slut? What do you define as a slut? Is it just dressing provocatively? Well what's dressing provocatively? Is it being attractive and showing of their bodies? There is a HUGE HUGE difference from what the pussy cat dolls do and what you have stated in one of your post, getting shit faced at a bar drunk in a mini-skirt trying to get fucked by anyone. Sexuality and sex are not the same thing, they maybe associated, but they are not the same. Just because a woman or man show of their sexuality or use their sexuality to advance themselves does not mean they are sleeping with everyone they can. Not to many women in the entertainment business can make it far by being straight out sluts, using their sexuality maybe, but they still need brains to stay ahead of the game. Some might be both, madonna seems to quite the business woman and well lets admit she was pretty sexually active, that still doesn't take away the fact that she's intelligent and has made herself an empire. What does she get out of it, a comfortable lifestyle a better future for her children, and possibly charity work from which other will benefit I can respect a woman with brains and sexuality and that knows how to use it without resorting to sleeping with everyone.
However not being a slut and sleeping around with everyone starts at home, women have to be taught to love themselves and respect their bodies, to use their brains as well, not just bodies. But if they do have it and they do have that type of body, that it ain't shameful to use it to their advantage, only if they use it to sleep with everyone does it become shameful in my eyes.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
So, to answer the OP question: 'Why do girls do it?' ... depends on the girl. Some do it for love, some for attention, some for money and some do it because they just plain enjoy it.
As to the video...I still feel they are no talent girls acting like sluts. Whether or not they are, I have no idea but, they sure dress and look the part. If you dress like a slut and act like a slut... someone is going to call you a slut.
I don't think I've said it is 'wrong' to do this but, I do feel that there are more healthy and respectable choices a girl can make... though none as profitable if she is good at it.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Dress like a slut maybe they are, act like a slut how so? They are dancing, most of it is for entertainment purposes, it's the music business which we as a society, especially those between the ages of 15-30 have grown up with, watching videos and all, and many are quite able to tell the difference between the 2. Which why when it comes to music videos if they are dressed and dance, does it make them sluts, probably not, does it make them female entertainers and dancers...probably it does. They maybe no talent in your eyes, but they are a successful female group that make money, travel around the world and are dancers and singers.
But this is no more different that say Christiana aguilera or madonna or a multitude of male and female entertainers that have talent and brains to make it long term in their choosen business and use their sexuality at the same time. Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Lenny Kravitz, Simon Le bon, george michaels and so many other male artists have used their sexuality and many on this list have slept with a shit load of women, yet this doesn't take away from their talents or their achievement, yet when its a woman, you women are very quick to attack them and call them sluts. Odd isn't it how jealous in women acts.
Maybe it's a generation thing. When I was younger, I didn't like my mother's idea of music and she didn't like mine. Now, she say's no one has talent any more...and I more often than not have to agree with her.
There is talent and then there is Talent... (I can't get the 'flash' thingy to work!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yGGtVKrD8
Oh, and before I say good-night...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mq4UT4VnbE
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
First thing I would like to point out is that I wasn't hammered, I was tipsy, not over the edge.
Second of all and for the last time, I'm not jealous.
As for my avatars, and pictures I post, I never said I don't like looking I said I don't like the message being portrayed. I guess the good old days where women didn't need to be tramps to have a career are gone
Compare this with the Pussycat Dolls
Is it true most of the Pussycat Dolls fans are female? Yeah, I'm pretty sure, if you watch videos of their concerts, it's mostly females in the audience. Also if you look at the stats of the video
AudiencesThis video is most popular with:
Why? I don't know.
I don't like it when people say there is no good music anymore, there is always good music being made, ALWAYS! It just seems alote of mainstream stuff is getting more pointless with every song, but is it? Maybe maybe not, there will always be crappy music, and there will always be good music in every generation. Anyone who says "rap is crap" or anything like this is just completely ignorant, their are good and bad artists in every genre. I find it funny one generation always says to the younger "theres no good music anymore," as if they were not told this by the generation before them and thought "whatever mom."
The day I feel the urge to tell my kis all their music is crap is the day I will remind myself of when my mom told me Eminems music was completely pointless and terrible, as if there was no poetry or meaning there. She was ignorant of my music, and I will most likely not understand my childs the way they do and so I should try harder to, or atleast not put the entire genre down.
Hi Cpt
I like that video much better.
Contrary to what my mother thinks, I think there are still plenty of talented people around...
Some women can stand on talent alone without selling sex - as you have shown.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
Example: Alicia Keys, dope!
I don't know about Alicia Keys... not my style.
I love Sarah Mclachlin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1GmxMTwUgs
Bonnie Raitt is good, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBWfAl4gaOs
(Why isn't my Flash button working???
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'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
The good old days ? Which ones were those ? You mean the ones where women had their husbands picked for them, had to put up with beatings and play the part of the obedient housewife all of the time ?
As far as the daughter argument goes on here. The way father's treat their daughters in Iran is a lot more immoral to me than anyone allowing their daughter to dress like Miley Cyrus.
Need I remind anyone of Mae West and her famous "Come up and see me sometime" lines of the 1930's ? This is nothing new to culture.
“It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.”
― Giordano Bruno
Go back further to the belly dancers of Persia or, Egypt.
Same thing - different generation.
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein