These are the sites to the moses exodus/ red sea crossing some nevative impute as well as positive. You decide

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/history/moses_4.shtml

http://www.bibleandscience.com/archaeology/exodus.htm

http://judaism.about.com/od/torah/f/moses_proof.htm

North Sinai Journal

Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists Say

A worker removed sand from the remains of a military fort. The ruins roughly coincide with the timing of the Israelites’ biblical flight from Egypt. Did the Red Sea Part? No Evidence, Archaeologists SayBy MICHAEL SLACKMAN APR 03 2007The New York Timesnytimes.com Timesnytimes.com

NORTH SINAI, Egypt, April 2 — On the eve of Passover, the Jewish holiday that celebrates the story of Moses leading the Israelites through this wilderness out of slavery, Egypt’s chief archaeologist took a bus full of journalists into the North Sinai to showcase his agency’s latest discovery.

I'm not entirely sure where to post this... Feel free to move it mods if you want. This short story is based on a dream I had at a young age, when my young mind, with very little exposure to religion was trying to put it all together subconsciously. It's written in child-like language. It also gets quite fucked up at the end. Also my great gran had just died and I was rather confused.

Heaven on a Hill

            My friend had told me that when we die we go up to a place called heaven. His mummy and daddy took him to a place called church which is where he learnt about this. Here I was now standing at the bottom of a small hill, my mummy on one side and my granny on the other looking up at this boring blue building which looked slightly like school, but shorter with only one or maybe two floors. School had four floors, it was a big building. This must be heaven, I thought, this is where they take dead bodies, because we’re going to see great gran and she died not long ago and so she’s a dead body.

I was going to post this in the rather ironically named "freethinking forum" but i read that posts with a theistic agenda would be destroyed without question. Well, first things first i'm an atheist and have been for quite a long time. I'm not arguing that God exists in this post, and don’t have a particular pro theistic agenda either, just thought I’d be careful. I do however think that most of the stuff i've read here is philosophically inconsistent. 

Now you don't believe in God. Fine. However, its quite clear that the dominant view here is that belief in god is irrational, you've even gone so far as to call it a mind disorder. Hmm. Now why is this? Well i read under the thread about why belief in god is irrational that this is because there is no scientific evidence for god. No scientific evidence for God, therefore belief in him is irrational. 

This is something that has boggled my mind for so long now, ever since I got a view of the american religious life. I wanted to post in this forum, because I want to hear from your view, no matter what you believe in.

Why do people worship Jesus? Now, stop right there. Don't give me a lecture on who he is and what he did, I know this full and well. I have noticed especially in America(since you guys do like to shout so damn loud), that Jesus seems to be put on a level of worship equal or beyond the old man himself. I've seen cars with these nifty window-stickers and other decals with "Jesus saves" "Jesus loves you" and a million other combinations of warm and fuzzy words. 

I live in a culture, where there are virtually no fundie Christians

And I am curious does this Ritualistic animal sacrifice. happen in a fundie Christian culture. as this is a commandment from God himself / Leviticus 14

"The Lord spoke to Moses. He told him to say to the people,

“To make the house pure, the priest must get two birds. He must also get some cedar wood, bright red yarn and branches of a hyssop plant. He must kill one of the birds over fresh water in a clay pot.

“Then he must take the cedar wood, the hyssop plant, the bright red yarn and the live bird. He must dip all of them into the blood of the dead bird. He must also dip them into the fresh water. He must sprinkle the house seven times"

I don't know if this is the right place for this but...

In BenfromCanada's thread, "I disprove Christianity in 3 words" (http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/sapient/atheist_vs_theist/6814#new)

the topic has wandered into messianic prophecy and how Jesus does/doesn't fulfill it.

This reminded me of something that I remembered seeing a while back about the Jews looking for two Messiahs, Aaronic and Davidic. The Aaronic Messiah was to be the high priest and the Davidic Messiah was to be the political leader. the explanation I was given for why the Jews refused Jesus was because they were looking for him to be the Davidic Messiah and he was the AAronic Messiah.

This is dedicated to the new breed of religious types I've started to see around, the "Scientific Theist". This is the type of theist who has taken the fact of evolution into play, they don't take a literal stance on the Genesis "Adam and Eve" account and perhaps they actually have a formal education, past what ever grade school they attended.

You are the religious type I have least respect for, others I can feel pity on as they are the system of childhood indoctrination and have simply had their parents ideals forced upon them, but you have a brain developed enough to know the answer, yet you don't accept it?

Dave_G wrote:

Our primary goal in doing the debate was to preach the gospel to the countless people who would be watching in their homes, because it is the gospel that is "the power of God unto salvation" (see Romans 1:16).

From the email of Ray Comfort:

"I've been thinking. How about we promote this as me saying:
"I can prove God's existence. Absolutely, scientifically, without the mention of faith or the Bible." That would stir interest from both the Christian and secular community.

So Rays main intent was to "share the gospel" yet he told me his intent was to prove God scientifically without invoking faith or the bible. Got it. Bearing false witness... I get it. (this is the best argument Ray has made against Christianity so far)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/diary-of-a-christian-terr_b_49167.html

Some horrifying and terrifying information.  The full article has comments on HuffPo (Huffington Post). There are also links within the text to things like Uhl's MySpace page.

~susan

Diary of a Christian Terrorist

Visitors to Mark David Uhl's Myspace page will quickly learn that Uhl is a student at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, that he is a devoted Christian, that his name means "Mighty Warrior" -- and that he likes Will Smith's saccharine tear-up-the-club track, "Switch." Uhl reveals his career ambitions on his page as well: "I will join the Army as an officer after college." Already, Uhl was preparing in Liberty's ROTC program.

Uhl waited until he was offline, however, to reveal his plot to kill the family of itinerant Calvinist provocateur Fred Phelps (famous for their "Fag Troops" rallies outside soldiers' funerals). The Phelpses planned to protest Falwell's funeral, a bizarre stunt designed to highlight Falwell's somehow insufficiently draconian attitude towards homosexuals. Uhl made several bombs and allegedly told a family member he planned to use them to attack the Phelps family.

He was arrested soon after and charged with manufacturing explosives. On the surface, Uhl appears to be the latest version of Virginia Tech rampage killer (and "Richard McBeef" author) Cho Seung-Hui. Indeed, both Uhl and Cho were alienated young men who conceived or carried out campaigns of mass murder on college campuses.

But there is a crucial difference between Uhl and Cho: while Cho's motives remain a source of intense debate, Uhl was an a devout evangelical Christian who advocated religious violence in the name of American nationalism. Uhl's blog, featured on his Myspace page, offers a window into the political underpinnings of his bomb plot. In one post, Uhl implores Christians to die on the battlefield for "Uncle Sam." He justifies his call to arms by quoting several Biblical passages and reminding his readers that the "gift of God" is eternal life.

"Christians, we have been given life after death and we should help others receive it and not sit here in our big buildings and sing to ourselves so we can go home and feel good about ourselves," Uhl writes. "Christians, fear of death, fear of death. The fear of death shows you don't believe."

Uhl concludes, "God needs soldiers to fight so his children may live free. Are you afraid??? I'm not. SEND ME!!! "

Uhl's imploration sounds eerily like the battle-cries of another, more notorious religious radical: Osama bin-Laden. Consider what bin-Laden told the Independent in 1993. "`I was never afraid of death... As Muslims, we believe that when we die, we go to heaven. Before a battle, God sends us... tranquility."

Christian right leaders from the late Falwell to James Dobson have turned Muslim-bashing into a cottage industry, using the words of bin-Laden and his acolytes to allege that Islam is an inherently violent religion that "breeds" terrorism. After meeting with President George W. Bush two weeks ago about Iran and Iraq, Dobson conducted a hysterical five-part broadcast hyping the threat of radical Islam. (CD's of those broadcasts will soon be available on Focus on the Family's website, with all proceeds going to support Dobson's kulturkampf -- and his paycheck).

The response of Dobson and his allies to Uhl's arrest will reflect more on themselves than on any impressionable 19-year-old college student. The Christian right has warped religious doctrine to advance a Utopian political worldview that promises to purify the land of liberal decadence. Through one of its flagship universities, the Christian right produced a terrorist. Their hysterical warnings of the threat of radical Islam sound increasingly like projections.

But then again, maybe it's all Will Smith's fault.