I think the Rational Response Squad should offer Al Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Society in Louisvile, KY, a debate on atheism. He recently gave four seminars on atheism at Dallas Theological Seminary.

Here are the seminars

http://www.dts.edu/media/play/?MediaItemID=7da9a043-fb24-412e-b0e4-efded1f6a61a

(Apologies if this has already been done)

Free will  is a integral part of the christian faith. Christians often cite it to demonstrate the great love of their god. "God could have made you love him, but he doesn't want mindless robots,so you have free will.'' or "It hurts god when you don't serve hime,but he gave you free will because he loves you." Now that is all well and fine. Such god might deserve some respect right?  The problem is, the christian god doesn't actually give free will. An example of free will would be:

"If you serve me,thats good.If you don't,that's ok too."

But what we get is:

"If you serve me,thats good.If you don't, you'll suffer eternally."

Now, how is that in any way free will? Where is the choice? "Love me or I'll punish you eternally."  The  christian god would be no better than King Nebuchadrezzar when he demanded everyone bow to the statue of him or be thrown into the fiery furnace.

Of all the arguments against god (and I really love them all, especially when you are stumped by one and have to re-read it to find the fallacy - for example, WL Craig has challenged my understanding, but eventually I have seen where his arguments fail).

Anyhow, I thought I'd share my basic problem with theism, and while this is quite basic, I find that returning to the original problem helpful in resetting oneself in light of all the arguments that follow.

Basically, it is a Noncognitivist position.

To anyone, I pose the scenario:

It is blue, triangular, wavy, pumpkin-like and causes the leaves on the trees to move.  I call it "flurb".

It is maximally good, it is maximally powerful, and maximally knowing and causes the universe to exist. I call it "god".

They are both equal propositions. The issue would be "do you believe that flurb exists? Yes or no? (The answer "it could exist" isn't a position, since it is also the mirror statement "it also might not exist". And this is simply not a position at all.)

No?: Why not? What evidence do you have?

Yes?: Why? What evidence do you have?

I can point out that blue, triangles, wavy-ness and pumpkin-like things exist, and point to the trees moving. But the clever people out there might notice the problem:

Sometime in 2006 , in  remote vilage in romania , a 26yo young woman, mentally ill (schizo i think) was taken to a monastery to be healed . They deemed her posessed , tied her up to a cross , chanted shit for several days untill she eventually went into a coma , died hours later on an ambulance cause of starvation/thirst and abuse

Finaly the verdict : The priest gets 7 years in jail , the nuns 5 .

                           A friend of mine does 9 years for beeing caught with a rather large bag of marihuana

I`ll get back with details later on , but just google " tanacu " or " tanacu case "  

 This one is just crazy to me what the hell is this person talking about?  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfOB429YFb4#VFSf7rHZRNE

 This person seems to be attacking me in their comments, just wanted to know if I had said something wrong that deserved to be attacked

http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=QO4d6Uhj43Q 

While debating on YouTube a guy told me he had proof that God exists. I was intrigued and he seemed like a decent fellow so I asked for his proof. This is what I was sent. I’d be interested in hearing everyone’s views.

.... jesus still on trial ? come on .... just look at the religious loons. Hey atheists, "jesus" was one of ours. The ressurection has barely begun !     Don't throw away jesus nor his "god" . I AM GOD he said. YEAH dude !