What are you most controversial opinions
Offline I am in the mood to vent. I have opinions that I can't talk openly about at work and in my conservative area, would get beat up for discussing since this is a place where advocating using nuclear weapons against Mecca is not all the controversial.
- As an atheist and a bright, simply admitting that I do not believe in god is deeply offensive to some people, particularly ones whose religious beliefs indicate that everyone should be converted to their religion. The planet as a whole would be better off without religion, especially Islam and Christianity.
- I am a white person and I agree whole-heartly with Kanye West when he said George Bush doesn't care about Black people and all the things he said leading up to that. For five days George Bush did absolutely nothing to help the victims of Katrina, he remained on vacation, even going out to play guitar with some celebrity for a photo op. After the city went to total chaos he ordered the national guard to shoot those looters, meanwhile white families caught up in the disaster were said to be "finding" supplies. We know George Bush doesn't care about black people because we he finally got off his ass to do something, he CONGRATULATED the man responsible for hundreds of dead and dying people in New Orleans as doing a "heck of a job."
- George Bush stole the election by illegally disenfranchising black voters with a list of "felons" that had an absurd number of false positives because the criteria for being on the list was being the same race, and having the same name as a felon. Only we can't talk about this because bringing up this historical fact labels us conspiracy theorists despite being well documented.
-There are dozens of crimes committed by the Bush administration that should warrant impeachment and all of them alone are far worse than cheating on your wife with a fat Jewish intern in the oval office. Republicans are massive hypocrites and Democrats are tiny cowards for not impeaching this fuck head. Bush's overwhelming incompetence is proof that 9-11 was not planned by him or anyone working for him since the towers actually fell.
-George Bush is a liar. His administration lied about weapons of mass destruction. They went by intelligence that they knew was false because they had been wanting to conquer Iraq and its oil for years. Even now the future oil revenue is being divided up amongst the oil corporations and is going to be used not for the benefit of Iraqis but for the benefit of George Bush's friends.
-Our use of depleted uranium is a war crime and I hold the pentagon responsible for every birth defect that happens in Iraq. Someone needs to give shaking the evil out of the pentagon another try.
-Hilary Clinton and other democrats were not deceived by Bush, they voted for the war knowing he was full of shit but were to cowardly to call Bush out on his lies, which is pretty much the same reason they voted for the patriot act.
-Crack Cocaine was intentionally let into this country by the CIA under Regan because we had alliances to maintain with right wing drug lords. The fact that it devastated the black community was convenient source of revenue and labor for the increasingly privatized prisons that tend to support the right wing
-Reagan was a miserable excuse for a president and it is a pity that he didn't spend his last days homeless and alone like the thousands of mentally ill people he threw out on the street to build more bombs, or die penniless and broken like the black single mothers he vilified, or die in a blazing inferno or from chemical burns that would cover 100% of his body like the children of Iran killed by weapons he supplied to Iraq.
-The longest running failure of policy is the war on (some) drugs but no one, once elected, has the courage to admit the nakedness of the king and do something to stop it. DEA agents and the police in general have become increasingly militarized because kicking down doors like jack booted fascists is pretty much the only way to enforce drug laws. The war on drugs had racists motivations as an excuse to lock up Mexicans and Asians, served as a useful tool to lock up young critics of the Vietnam war who had also expanded their minds by experimenting with altering the consciousness, and continues to be used as a weapon against minorities. Blacks account for 15% of the users of pot and about 80% of arrests, and the children of the wealthy are given far more lenient sentences in the criminal justice system.
-Sodomy and Fornication are healthy natural and normal and it is ludicrous to think that we can stop teen pregnancy by teaching only abstanence. We also should teach tolerance of homosexuality and sex ed should cover issues relevant to gay sex.
- I do not pledge allegiance to the flag, the united states, or the god it is under.
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Offline My threshold of what constitutes a murderer is not that out of whack. Any human who deliberately ends the life of another human.
So, as far as you are concerned, there is no difference between George Washington and Ted Bundy since they both deliberatly killed people. Good to know.
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Offline The Doomed Soul wrote:*leonidus* SPARTANS!!!! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION!!!!
*SPARTANS!* OHHWOO!! OHWOO!! OHWOO!!!!
*leonidus* I think I have brought more soldiers then you Canadian.
Fuck if i care how many soldiers i bring.... as long as i get to fight along side Spartans (or against... im not picky)
Ummmmm. If I recall correctly, that story didn't have a happy ending. Nor did the phalanx prosper against the legion in the grand scheme of ancient warfare.
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Offline Ummmmm. If I recall correctly, that story didn't have a happy ending.
That all depends now doesn't it? One character made is explicit that he desired a beautiful death and, in the end, he clearly got one, henceforth, for him the ending could not have been any better.
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Offline Ummmmm. If I recall correctly, that story didn't have a happy ending.
To some... there is no happier ending then that of a warriors death
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Offline Well, I will fuck and love all the women, as the fools go to WAR .....
I really don't get it, when we can FUCK , SUCK , and HUG , instead. Why war ? 
Lets all fuck ! 
WE are ONE , I want you ! Let's play the LOVE game instead of war. SUCK a friend real extra good .....
Who do you love ? Well, be honest .... sucking and getting sucked, feels real GOOD ! Stop all lying ..... Who is confused ? See that girl over there , tell her the truth .....
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Offline Well, I will fuck and love all the women, as the fools go to WAR .....
I really don't get it, when we can FUCK , SUCK , and HUG , instead. Why war ?
Lets all fuck !
Who do you love ? Well, be honest .... sucking and getting sucked, feels real GOOD ! Stop all lying ..... Who is confused ? See that girl over there , tell her the truth .....
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Offline Well, I will fuck and love all the women, as the fools go to WAR .....
The more motherfuckers you kill, or that get killed at war, results in having more mothers to fuck when you get home? . . . . Yes, I could have put that very differently . . . .
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Just for the hell of it, suppose you were taken hostage by an escaped mental patient and this insane escapee was threatening to scoop your eyeballs out with a spoon if you don't perform fellatio upon his grimy, unwashed penis.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you refuse his request to fellate him and so he is now holding your head with a death grip and is preparing to make good on his threat to blind you. As he begins to push his spoon into your eye socket a shot is heard; .... a police sharpshooter has chosen that precise moment to end the life of the insane patient who was attempting to mutilate you.
Would you afterwords express gratitude toward the police sniper for saving your vision and probably your life or would you refuse and call him a murderer ?
...just curious, that's all.
First, I'll assume that the "benefit of the doubt" thing reveals some homophobia, and thank you for exposing the fact that it's not just religious folks who hate homosexuals. Second, I'll assume you didn't read the reply I made to you which clearly said that defence wasn't murder, but soldiers who volunteer to go into battle can't use the self defence excuse because they knew they'd be going in to kill people. Thirdly, I'll point out that police are not soldiers, and the situation is not comparable as a result. If a police officer intervened, I'm living in a lawful society, and while the police force may be holding me down on account of my skin (yes, many police forces in north america are racist organizations) it's a fairly good chance that police officer did nothing to harm me before this encounter, and will do nothing to harm me after. If it were a soldier, then I'd be living in a war zone. That soldier may be defending the homeland-and that could be a bad thing if the government is a bad one, as the soldier would be just as likely to shoot me. That soldier may be one of the invaders, which means that either I'll be taken into custody and interrogated to death - quite possibly literally - or be left alone until a bomb hits my house. Or perhaps the bomb has already hit my house, in which case I WOULD show no gratitude to the soldier, as his or her army killed my family.
Back to your question: If it was a cop who killed someone to save me, I'd show gratitude out of actual gratitude. If it was a soldier who saved me, I'd show gratitude out of fear.
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Offline Its a little know fact that we are indeed trained to smell fear >.> hehe
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Offline Its a little know fact that we are indeed trained to smell fear >.> hehe
From are ancient shark ancestors no doubt.
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Offline Quote:Its a little know fact that we are indeed trained to smell fear >.> heheFrom are ancient shark ancestors no doubt.
Nay, Dogs of War
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Offline Nay, Dogs of War
The Christepher Walken action vehicle?
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First, I'll assume that the "benefit of the doubt" thing reveals some homophobia, and thank you for exposing the fact that it's not just religious folks who hate homosexuals. Second, I'll assume you didn't read the reply I made to you which clearly said that defence wasn't murder, but soldiers who volunteer to go into battle can't use the self defence excuse because they knew they'd be going in to kill people. Thirdly, I'll point out that police are not soldiers, and the situation is not comparable as a result. If a police officer intervened, I'm living in a lawful society, and while the police force may be holding me down on account of my skin (yes, many police forces in north america are racist organizations) it's a fairly good chance that police officer did nothing to harm me before this encounter, and will do nothing to harm me after. If it were a soldier, then I'd be living in a war zone. That soldier may be defending the homeland-and that could be a bad thing if the government is a bad one, as the soldier would be just as likely to shoot me. That soldier may be one of the invaders, which means that either I'll be taken into custody and interrogated to death - quite possibly literally - or be left alone until a bomb hits my house. Or perhaps the bomb has already hit my house, in which case I WOULD show no gratitude to the soldier, as his or her army killed my family.
Back to your question: If it was a cop who killed someone to save me, I'd show gratitude out of actual gratitude. If it was a soldier who saved me, I'd show gratitude out of fear.
My goodness you almost drip with condescension don't you ? 
My "benefit of the doubt" statement would simply refer to the ratio of homosexuals compared to the general population and ( without knowing you ) where you would likely figure in those statistics. Kind of like the ratio of albinos in the general population. Are you an albino ? Statistically speaking I doubt you are one of those either....so please get over yourself and your righteous 
indignation, it's really annoying.
Oh and incidentally, I love that in your non-bigoted way you automatically "assumed" that I'm a homophobe and that I "hate" homosexuals....you're a world class jerk ! 
Begs the question if cigarette smoking is as harmful as the other drugs that you have made analogous to it then WHY ISN'T it illegal as well?
I guess a world where we all sit around the house and do nothing but whine about our lack of interpersonal relations and how smokers are killing us all is someone's utopia somewhere.
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What's with the ad hominem?
Ever think maybe it's because the cigarette industry is extremely powerful, and the states where tobacco is grown and the companies are based in have plenty of legisaltors that know anything they do bad for the industry is bad for their career especially since a lot of their campaign financing comes from them? What about maybe it's too late to do it now because how much of the tax money comes from cigarette taxes? And I don't think the addicts would vote for taking away their addiction (still a good number of people). We probably can't outlaw it but allowing it in public is just insane - by the way I never seen these commercials as I rarely ever watch TV.
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legalize all of it and make ppl pay tax o and btw i wuz bein funny with the mexico thing i say do it to stop illegal immagration if the mexican gov gave a blue shit about its own ppl they wouldn't come here so im sayin that both the us and mexico need new goverment better goverment bigger goverment {as in the ppl really do run it } also bring back the us milita and a new improved constitution with VERY specific wording on religion and rights my proposed amendment would include a athiest right to no religion who else would agree to a mod on the first amendment to include athiesm protection
btw i just watched the golden compass wow really out there man they bettr make the other movies polar bears are awesome not like wolves but they still are
mohammed is mr poopy pants allah is a cootie queen and islam is a lint licker
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ad hominem?
I mentioned no names.
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This thread is no longer making me as joyously angry as it was before. It was quite addictive. So I would now like to switch to something about which I have no knowledge but would love to hear about: why did Reagan suck as a president? All I hear these days is what a great guy he was. It mostly smells of bullshit, but I have nothing to compare it to. I guess I just can't believe the "father of modern conservatism" was anything less than a jackass.
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Why Reagan sucked
1. All but trying to start WWIII
2. Classifying Ketchup as a fucking vegetable in school lunches
3. Union busting the air traffic controllers - still a major shortage of them
4. Increasing the national debt more than any other president ever
5. Cutting programs so homelessness skyrocketed
6. Falling asleep during important meetings
7. Overspending on the military while letting everything else go downhill
8. Letting S & L people and other capitalist swine wreck the economy while they made a fortune.
This is by no means a complete list. Remember I was 15 when he left office so there's a lot I forget.
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9. Iran-Contra
10. Bush Sr. as vice president
11. Named Scalia to court.
Basically, he's just the more eloquent version of George W. The only key difference is Reagan was more prone to fund scientific research.
So long as Nancy didn't see anything in the 'stars' that week.
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I've heard he had approval ratings of 90%. was he just way better at lying or what? I know he was an actor....
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Y'know. I loved the '80s (what I remember of them anyway. I was stoned for most of them.)
I gotta say that I think today's population gets infinitely more news about current events than they did back then. In my opinion, interested people have better access to the materials needed to form reasoned decisions about current situations.
Also, the '80s made people jaded, approaching nihilistic, about the future. In the music, you could feel a return to '60s uber-liberal lyrical politicism. The government fought back by banning so many videos in the '80s that today would be labeled as puritanistic. Self Control by Laura Branigan and Girls on Film by Duran Duran are two of my all-time favorites that the Reagan administration went fucking psycho over. The latter one being the best cinematography EVER in my opinion. I had a French penpal that exchanged VHS tapes for Hustler magazines and English slang lessons. The video came out early '80s but I never saw it until '88.
I digress.
I suppose that as long as Reagan kept the rest of the world afraid of us then we didn't care. Times have definitely changed.
On a side note: Prodigy's Smack my bitch up video would have given the censors of the '80s a coronary. LMAO.
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He was very charismatic, and some was a result of the right-wing religious extremists rise in the late '70s and power reaching their peak in the 80s (AFA, Moral Majority and other asshat groups)
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good stuff. in the end though he just seems a bit more like a moron when I wanted satan himself (actually I have heard there were some who thought he was the antichrist because his 3 names had 6 letters each
). Are you sure there's no rumors of him eating babies or trying to start the zombie apocalypse?
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There's a website that seems serious that claims George_W_Bush is the Antichrist.
According to end time conspiracy the antichrist is supposed to come out of Europe,so couldn't be Bush anyway.Why do christians want the world to end so much!They think everyone's the antichrist.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
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The short answer is yes, too many xains do. "It's them or us", but we are ONE. The solution is to heal them .... That will take more compassion and understanding ..... (obviously)
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HOLY SHIT!!!! Regan really is the father of modern conservatism
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I'm thinking either Machiavalli (even though he was medievil not necessarily ancient) or Aristotle.
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Incoming vent...
What is it with christians and not defending their beliefs? Finding a christian is easy,finding one that will debate and defend their beliefs is almost impossible. Just this week, I've had three tell me that 'I don't have to defend god to you,' 'I don't have to provide evidence for my belief,' or some variation thereof.
Why is any questioning almost always met with 'I don't have to defend god.'? Well, asking god doesn't seem to do much, so I think you're supposed to do it for him. And since your the one with the belief, that affects large parts of everyone's life, I would say you are obligated to be able to defend it.
I can only imagine if we did that. Defend evolution? We don't have to. Explain why people shouldn't have religion? Not our job. Christians would label us incompetent and lazy in a blink.
It never fails to amaze me how the majority of xtians are incapable of even trying to explain,validate, or defend their faith.Yet they get angry when you accuse them of blind faith and accpetance.Well you give me no reason to think ohtherwise!
I'm prepared to defend my atheism anytime and place.It is a primary reason I visit this board and otheres like it.It is inconceiveable to me that anyone would bse their life on something they know almost nothing about. But why am I still surprised. Christianity is all about shunning knowledge.
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The Door to Door Mormons (or DOuble D Men) are worse. They actually start a discussion with you and continue until you challenge them and they purport "We did not come here to discuss or to debate but you share this work with you". If you just wanted to share, why the hell did you stay after I said "No thank you" after your offer? Seriously.
One interesting experience with a Mexican BIble Thumper was when he was only interested in speaking with spanish speaking Christians. I did nto know this however and when he asked "Como estas" I replied "Bien" and he started to give his spanish spiel until i said I am not fluent in spanish.
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Shit. I thought people would at least begin thinking a bit more once they left high school. I guess I don't even have that to look forward to. Just today I tried to explain to a middle-class white boy wearing school gym clothes and a cross around his neck why he wasn't unique as mommy and daddy told him he was. Of course he didn't buy it. I swear, some people avoid thought like it's an evil plague or something.
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I think the only truly controversial opinions I have is that soldiers are all murderers, home school should be banned, and that all bigots are by definition bad people, including the mildly bigoted. Other than that, they're either opinions that are backed by the facts, opinions that are mainstream, or opinions that should be mainstream.
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Note to Ben, every one in the Canadian military is a soldier first, proffession second
Even our chefs, accountants and janitors >.>
Just an amusing tid bit
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Please tell me you're trying to be ironic.
Please.
Wow BfC you have a pretty low threshold of what constitutes a murderer. You do realize that when you wash your hands the idea behind it is to kill germs....killing germs makes you a murderer.
people that abandon their child should have their balls cut off or at least a little snip snip
because going out and fucking new girls while you're last girl is struggling to take care of your first illegitimate offspring is beyond just dangerous and irresponsible.
fuck this whole sue him maybe in five years he'll pay a whole hundred dollars in child support if he ever gets a decent job with a real salary - seriously castration would put a quick end to the cycle.
Agreed, those men are scum but people who abandon their children also come with ovaries. I just saw on my local news where a mother smothered her newborn infant. How fucked up is that ?
Where I live a "Baby Moses Law" was passed whereby sicko mothers such as this can simply drop off their unwanted "package" at a fire station and walk away. To free these poor pitiful women from any further chance of conceiving an unwanted child I volunteer to perform complimentary hysterectomies....with a shotgun.
true. my statements were gender biased because of a personal issue but i'm totally for a drive thru spay/neuter clinic for blatantly irresponsible parents. one mistake is too many when a new life is concerned.
*leonidus* SPARTANS!!!! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION!!!!
*SPARTANS!* OHHWOO!! OHWOO!! OHWOO!!!!
*leonidus* I think I have brought more soldiers then you Canadian.
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Fuck if i care how many soldiers i bring.... as long as i get to fight along side Spartans (or against... im not picky)
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My threshold of what constitutes a murderer is not that out of whack. Any human who deliberately ends the life of another human, with the exceptions of self defence and assisted suicide. However, there is no such thing as self defence in modern war. You go into a battle with the objective to kill another person, and to survive (other objectives are present from time to time, but that's the gist of most operations). If that person fights back, THEY are committing self defence-if they didn't choose to be there. Being that drafts have been abolished in most areas, it's unlikely that there are any who fall in that category anymore.
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what about pre-emptive self defense? does that count ^_^
Like... if i DONT kill him first... he will kill me >.>
(whether or not he shoots first isnt part of the picture)
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Just for the hell of it, suppose you were taken hostage by an escaped mental patient and this insane escapee was threatening to scoop your eyeballs out with a spoon if you don't perform fellatio upon his grimy, unwashed penis.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you refuse his request to fellate him and so he is now holding your head with a death grip and is preparing to make good on his threat to blind you. As he begins to push his spoon into your eye socket a shot is heard; .... a police sharpshooter has chosen that precise moment to end the life of the insane patient who was attempting to mutilate you.
Would you afterwords express gratitude toward the police sniper for saving your vision and probably your life or would you refuse and call him a murderer ?
...just curious, that's all.
Fuck if i care how many soldiers i bring.... as long as i get to fight along side Spartans (or against... im not picky)
*Dilios* Canadians. The rushed into battle unorganized. More brawlers than soldiers. They have their uses.
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