It works for me!
Faith in Jesus works for me - it's exciting. I love the Bible and believe all of it - though there is mystery. There is mystery everywhere though, right? I am a incredibly happy believer in Jesus. I'm not a theologian, I just believe in Jesus.
I understand you can't make anybody believe in Jesus and the Bible, and I don't personally try to do that. But I highly recommend it from my experience with it. I can't get enough of the Bible or Jesus. I can't imagine trying to navigate through life without it at this point in my life.
I don't think Jesus or God is a thing you can prove to somebody. I heard about it a large percentage of my life and it didn't mean anything to me until a certain point - then that all changed.
So do you guys think that I'm fooling myself, not really happy, you don't believe me, or do you really think I can't be as happy or enlightened as you - are you evangelistic in that sense or what? What is the purpose of this site? Do you have something better to offer? If so, what is your gospel?
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"Let me hear your voice; For your voice is sweet, And your form is lovely.”
"Let me hear your voice; For your voice is sweet, And your form is lovely.”
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A poem -- Poetry Corner
Trees
Originally penned By Joyce Kilmer --
A poem my dad learned in his Grade School days, as follows ::
I think that I shall never see A poem lovely as a tree.
A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth’s sweet flowing breast;
A tree that looks at God all day, And lifts her leafy arms to pray;
A tree that may in Summer wear A nest of robins in her hair;
Upon whose bosom snow has lain; Who intimately lives with rain.
Poems are made by fools like me, But only G-d can make a tree.
Okay! So, the OP has begun to throw down the gauntlet . . interesting !
So, the OP has begun to throw down the gauntlet . . interesting !
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الافعال ابلغ من الاقوال
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Proving them to you isn't worth my time and effort, nor is it necessary. I know they are facts, and that's more than sufficient to prove you wrong as far as I'm concerned. And as far as anyone else who shares in my perspective is concerned. Converting a proven fake isn't possible in any case.
On the contrary. The only teachings of the fictional character of jesus that exist reside in the bible, which explicitly demands the forcing of christianity down other people's throats. Clearly you aren't a true follower of jesus, else you would know better than to claim such.
Atheism doesn't require effort, it is the natural default state. Suggesting it requires effort is akin to suggesting it requires effort for the sun to shine. It doesn't, it would require effort for the sun not to shine, just like it requires effort to believe in the unbelievable.
I'm not convinced of that. I am convinced you aren't a christian. Though that doesn't necessarily make you an atheist.
I've already explained the glory of truth and the darkness of false belief, many times. Any time you're willing to read it, look back through the entirety of this topic. The only thing I despise more than repeating myself word for word to a person who consciously and consistently ignores reality and evidence is a hypocrite. Even if I did repeat myself, 5 pages from now you'd once again lie and say I didn't explain anything, so you'll have to give me a damn good reason to even consider the idea.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
maybe you're aware there were people in the default position
convinced Jesus had a demon, was a winebibber, was a fake
your poll and your position being weighed in the balances are alike nothing
and to say that you have a position of success and insight in life that requires no effort to achieve
goes against all sense and reason and experience of thought or accomplishment
hard to see it if one's head is above the mirror
what other victories and accomplishments arise out of a no - effort default position
oh I forgot - sure, yes...the olympics, business, art, music, creativity, character, computers
the things you'll find downstream on drain grates
all these plus atheists defaulting sleeping deriding dissing and dismissing
thanks for summing that up, bringing it home, writing the pie'ce de-re'-sis-tance, clearing the air draining the bottle
stay in bed and be an atheist, pontificate from on high
plus as a bonus tell us who's real and who's fake...
Anyone who believes in demons is not in the default position. And considering jesus never existed, noone could have believed anything about him until people made him up, which didn't happen until after he was already supposed to have died.
That is a strawman. I never said it required no effort to be successful. I said it requires no effort to not believe in false gods. Pro tip: They are not the same thing.
None, which is just fine because if atheism did have such an impact it wouldn't be a default position. One doesn't even have to be atheist to be successful in science. All that is required is rejecting just enough of the religion to be able to accept and do science.
But theism doesn't give you any more than atheism. Much less actually. Theism reduces one to an idiot who is afraid of the boogyman and prevents one from accomplishing anything meaningful at all.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
The Troll would continue to deny what it had already been told 5 pages ago, yet it was still quite easy...
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
what a sampler of unproveable statements
emanating from a supposed basis of fact
the default atheist can make up his own facts
backed with his own practiced version of faith
expressed in his own definition of words
packaged and weighed by his own judgment of values
distributed with all the latitude of his concept of freedom
which he freely bestows on himself freely
wrapping and shipping out his decrees
not believing anything he doesn't believe
except what he does believe when he believes if he does
and what he believes is fact if in fact he labels it fact it is
being a self seen expert in the default position
and bored certified doctor of straw science
gathering straw but making no bricks
Almost everything you say.
Nope.
Atheism equals no faith. At least by the definition you're using.
Nope.
That would be you.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
The Feeder's one-word morsels were no match for the Troll's free verse, which was still quite easy to...
The atheist in his "default position"
Has faith in Nothing
And prays "Nope" and "Proejction"
To his god of evolution
To deny the Word (Substance), who rose from the dead
And cast demons into swine
The atheist chooses uncooked pork
Over the Veal that god (Lord) offers,
The Light-ly Bread-ed Lamb of christ (Water).
I'm bored. Que the "CHOMP"
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
you don't examine whether the statements you made are proveable
you just say in effect... "back at you"
you don't think about the fact you are putting confidence and faith in yourself
to convince yourself these are facts and you are navigating by facts
yet you are the proof and collector and card lady of your "fact library"
and "nope" doesn't prove you don't speak and act out your own faith
plus breath what you think is life into what you think are facts
seeing how you claim reason yet without being reasonable
then state things as if certainly certain
issuing unproveable facts as if factually not Vas - launched opinions
you throw out statements as if all should bow not worthy and receive them as fact
in what appears to be pride salad with extra grated contempt and double hubris dressing
it makes me wonder how you have learned what you have if you have when you did
but as in water face answers to face
you may both look through to and into - back at you
and there see the man of straw you frequently see
but if you had a straw and could receive instruction you could draw Real Water
the Glorious atmosphere of God would bring it to your sucking face
Projection.
Blatant lie.
Projection.
Projection.
Projection.
Incoherent.
Projection.
Wishful thinking.
Because they are.
Projection.
Projection.
Projection.
The ignorant often wonder how others gain knowledge even when said knowledge is right at their fingertips.
Incoherent.
Projection.
Projection.
Projection.
Blatant lie.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
The Feeder's desperation grew worse, under the overwhelming force of the Troll's slam poetry...
You try to run from the Truth (christ)
By calling the Facts "Lies",
But if you turn the mirror on yourself
And look through the eye of Faith
Perhaps you will see the "Projection" is yours,
"Wishful thinking" that "incoherent" evolution is true
And deny the Bread (Spirit)
That rose from the dead
jesus (Lamb) can turn water into wine
And the sinners into the saved,
But "Nope" ( "Projection" ) cannot turn the Truth (Water) into "Lies".
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
Ok - what is your focus in life?
To enjoy life and educate those willing to be educated. To help people whenever I can. To hurt people as little as possible. To defend the rational and the truth against the irrational and the lies. What's your?
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
As always, the Troll simply started the discussion over for the countlessth time. And as always, it was still quite easy...
My focus is to serve the Lord (Bread) who died for our sins. Amen.
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
It's my increasing burning desire to focus on God, The Living Christ and the Written Word. They are Living and Working in me and Sustaining me.
Pretty weak. You're not going to accomplish anything in life. Not going to do anything that changes others lives for the better, and it's all for nothing.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
When I am weak then I am strong. His Power is made Perfect in weakness.
I didn't say YOU were weak, I said the total culmination of your life is weak.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Our lives are weak from sin, but jesus (Light) had the strength to carry the burden of our sin, and the total culmination of his life, death and resurrection is Salvation.
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
Nothing to boast about here - God is the "culminator".
The principle of Salvation by faith is illustrated by Abraham. Abraham believed God and God counted it as Righteousness. God told Abraham he would have a son from Sarah's dead womb - he believed it against circumstances. Abraham thus believed in the Resurrection illustrating our faith in the Resurrection of Christ which saves us. There's nothing to boast about - God does it all.
Except the god you speak of doesn't exist, so in fact the culmination of your life equals nothing.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
You cannot take god (Spirit) out of existence with words. The Word (Bread) was in the beginning, the Word (Light) was with god (Water) and the Word (Gospel) was god (Lamb).
Atheists try to be culminators unto themselves by denying the Ultimate Culminators, but their lives culminate in Death rather than Eternal Salvation.
There are no theists on operating tables.
CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
I received a Gift that guarantees He does exist. No problem.
Sure you did. And I'm the Queen of America.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
You may wish to be a Queen unto yourself, but I will folllow the Prince of Peace (Lamb).
god (Bread) saves the Queen, though her Sin is Vicious, but first she must lay down her Rotten Pistols and turn to christ (Water).
Without jesus (Word), there is No Future, only Anarchy.
There are no theists on operating tables.
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CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
RE: (I have received a Gift that guarantees He does exist. No problem)
Vas,
I believe God. I have been "born anew" by the Water and The Spirit - and have received the Gift of The Holy Spirit (as offered to anyone who believes God) - if anyone believes God - God "reckons it to him as Righteousness". I'm experiencing the joys of Salvation, sins forgiven - given by the Grace of God as obtained through faith in the substitutionary death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. To live is Christ - to die is gain. There's nothing to boast about. I just believe God - What He Says, What He Does, What He's Done.
There are no theists on operating tables.
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Lies, delusions, and poor formatting all in one go. Awesome.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
You speak of "Lies", but offer no evidence. I believe in Truth (christ), and my evidence is his Word (Light).
There is no delusion when you look with the eyes of Faith. Perhaps the Truth (Bread) looks like a delusion to you, because you have not received the Gift of the Spirit (Water).
We are all poorly formatted with sin, but jesus (Word) is the divine Editor who can white-out all errors with Salvation, and the Gospel (Lamb) is the perfect Final Draft.
There are no theists on operating tables.
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CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
yes CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
that's what is going to happen to all forms of righteousness
except the One God has Provided
The Gift of Righteousness by Grace as a Gift
received through faith in Jesus
and His Substitutionary Death on the cross for our sins
Where He became sin for us and took the beating
and Paid the Price for all the sins of all mankind for all time
for all those who believe in Him and His Resurrection from the Dead
Who Is now Living in those who believe in Him and have been born anew
His church, the "called out" - called out of no different places than where you are
it includes what you think you're doing to "help people" - CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
it includes the foolish lie you are promoting that there is no God or Jesus - CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
it's a deep hole you have dug yourself into
and you yourself can't get you yourself out of your you spot - yourself.
but
if Light shines in that dungeon
where you're chained to the wall
through that little opening way up
and you see It
and decide to confront yourself and repent
and cry out to God in all honesty and with conviction
instead of fooling yourself with another form of "here's my plan" "here's what Vas thinks"
"blah blah blah" CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP
then...
He can and will rescue you
and you can find Life which is Life Indeed
and Freedom which is Freedom Indeed
the biggest obstacle is you and what you think you know
you and the weed you are mulching
the atheist cabbage you are chewing
"blah blah blah wall of garbage text blah blah blah"
~Fonzie
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Yes, blah blah blah
That is what the atheist sings to himself
So as not to hear the Truth of the Word (Water)
We are chained to a wall of sin,
But jesus (Lamb) has scaled the wall with his Cross.
Yes we are piles of garbage,
But jesus (Bread) has recycled us into New Life through his Death and Resurrection.
You can accept this Gift of Substitution
Or you can keep singing your evolutionist song ( "blah blah blah" )
As the Salvation Bus drives on by.
"TRUTH (CHRIST)"
~Gospel
There are no theists on operating tables.
Re :: "Shah Mat" meaning really those feminine wiles
Sefer Shoftim 14 New King James Version (NKJV)
''Then he went down and talked with the woman; and she pleased Samson well. After some
time, when he returned to get her, he turned aside to see the carcass of the lion. And
behold, a swarm of bees and honey were in the carcass of the lion. He took some of it in
his hands and went along, eating. When he came to his father and mother, he gave some to
them, and they also ate. But he did not tell them that he had taken the honey out of the
carcass of the lion.
So his father went down to the woman. And Samson gave a feast there, for young men used
to do so. And it happened, when they saw him, that they brought thirty companions to be
with him.
Then Samson said to them, “Let me pose a riddle to you. If you can correctly solve and
explain it to me within the seven days of the feast, then I will give you thirty linen garments
and thirty changes of clothing. But if you cannot explain it to me, then you shall give me
thirty linen garments and thirty changes of clothing.”
And they said to him, “Pose your riddle, that we may hear it.” So he said to them:
“Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.”
Now for three days they could not explain the riddle.
But it came to pass on the seventh day that they said to Samson’s wife, “Entice your
husband, that he may explain the riddle to us, or else we will burn you and your father’s
house with fire. Have you invited us in order to take what is ours? Is that not so?”
Then Samson’s wife wept on him, and said, “You only hate me! You do not love me!
You have posed a riddle to the sons of my people, but you have not explained it to me.”
And he said to her, “Look, I have not explained it to my father or my mother; so should I
explain it to you?” Now she had wept on him the seven days while their feast lasted. And it
happened on the seventh day that he told her, because she pressed him so much. Then
she explained the riddle to the sons of her people. So the men of the city said to him on the
seventh day before the sun went down:
“What is sweeter than honey?
And what is stronger than a lion?”
And then Samson told her kinsmen having said to them:
“If you had not plowed with my heifer,
You would not have solved my riddle!” ''
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