It works for me!
Faith in Jesus works for me - it's exciting. I love the Bible and believe all of it - though there is mystery. There is mystery everywhere though, right? I am a incredibly happy believer in Jesus. I'm not a theologian, I just believe in Jesus.
I understand you can't make anybody believe in Jesus and the Bible, and I don't personally try to do that. But I highly recommend it from my experience with it. I can't get enough of the Bible or Jesus. I can't imagine trying to navigate through life without it at this point in my life.
I don't think Jesus or God is a thing you can prove to somebody. I heard about it a large percentage of my life and it didn't mean anything to me until a certain point - then that all changed.
So do you guys think that I'm fooling myself, not really happy, you don't believe me, or do you really think I can't be as happy or enlightened as you - are you evangelistic in that sense or what? What is the purpose of this site? Do you have something better to offer? If so, what is your gospel?
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Vas,
It's not much of a conversation, no?
anyway, believing in Jesus still works for me and I recommend it
there is great strength and great joy in the Living Presence of God in Christ
we who are in Christ face life with Live Help in real time
and the Word of God is in perfect sync
"knowing Christ" - dynamite motivation for Paul the apostle
and we experience the same Power at work within us
the Power that raised Jesus from the dead is lifting us
the gospel solves the main problem - sin
and the Only One Who can solve the problem
is the Creator Himself
if you could sin and have peace and joy
you would contradict the Word of God - but no
God Created light - and darkness
if you sin - sin pays a good wage - no union needed
there is time to submit to God rather than strive with your Maker
don't strive - you'll lose
It never is with trolls and theists.
Awesome how we're on the 96th page, with each of the previous pages consisting of 50 posts, and you're still stuck at the original post that at least 2 dozen people refuted by 90 odd pages ago.
It doesn't work for you. You just think it does. Or you would, except you're lying.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
It's interesting that you can't understand the mystery of the gospel
it demonstrates the Truth stated - to the unspiritual man the Cross of Christ is foolishness
to us who are being saved it is the Wisdom and Power of God for salvation
that which mankind couldn't understand before has now been revealed
through the Spirit of Christ
how can a man know his own thoughts - except in his spirit
how can a man know the Thoughts of God - except through the Spirit of God
if you went through the Door you could understand the Power of God in Christ
but through unbelief you are prevented from entering
you can't pick this lock even with a pick gun
believe in Christ and you can enter and be saved
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It's much more interesting you think there's a mystery when there isn't.
The bible is lies. Only science can give you truth. Embrace the light of reason and turn your back on the darkness of ignorance while you still can.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
You illustrate the uncertainty of the scientific route - trying to discover the undiscoverable thoughts of God
you can't find the thoughts of God by pursuing them with science and reason as gods
They are Revealed by the Spirit of God, locked up tight, out of range to one who doesn't believe in Christ
who disdains the Door to the sheepfold
and says he "sees" - he can't say what
and "knows"... and "has said"... when he doesn't... and hasn't...
who can't be awakened...he only pretends to sleep
(pride does have its price - how much pride can one afford)
how much emptiness can one bring to the table - claiming he feasts
how long sailing with no cargo or rudder - ablowing his sails with bated breath
talk about good imagination - it's a "life simulator" voyage...not real
it's faith in scientific bubbles - without substance
and unreasonable reason - yet touchy touchy is "captain reasoner"
You illustrate the uncertainty of the religious route, trying not to discover the discoverable secrets of the universe as you hide your head in the sand. You lie and prattle on about nothing when everything is in reach. I'd pray for you if it would accomplish anything. Instead I'll think for you and those like you, since you're obviously incapable of it yourself.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
you illustrate the appearance of life: walking, chomping, writing
stringing line to line and word to word
but with nothing to say - eminating from nothing to know
an "appearance of life" that won't stand close scrutiny
said appearance remaining unacknowledged to said object's loss
a life untethered with faith - unconnected
not "knowing" any person or "knowing" any thing really
we know that we are of God
and the whole world is in the power of the evil one
and we know that the Son of God
has come and has given us understanding
to know Him Who is True
and we are in Him Who is True
in His Son Jesus Christ
this is the True God and eternal life
the idol is a fake Elvis
nothin' but a hound dog
chompin all the time
You write many words but they contain no substance at all.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
...still
"I'm bored...que[sic] the Troll and/or Feeder..."
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Vas,
It's interesting you would bring up the subject of "substance"
I don't think you would know substance if you tripped over it
or it busted through that window behind you
"chomp, chomp, chomp" - now that's substance isn't it
I'm talking to you about spiritual things but you're not getting it
you're at the carnival
and, besides that - you aren't interested I know that
but you are in the dark about this subject of substance
substance is there but you don't know it - you stumble over it
you don't know what it is or what you're stumbling over
thus all your answers are phoned in - no substance whatever
you don't know how to answer because you don't get it
you don't get it because you don't want it
you won't even knock on the door of faith in God in Jesus Christ
you can't be awakened as I said because you only pretend to be asleep
in Canadian pride, "chomp....zz"
One giant projection.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
that's a non answer
I can understand why you have nothing
and admittedly know nothing for sure
you yourself believe in nothing - science, yourself, a vapor
and you have come up with nothing
it's probably embarassing
you hesitate to say even what you might think you know
for fear it may be treated with your brand of disdain and cynicism
what do we know but by faith in something, somebody, even...yourself
but the ox and ass knows his master
and I know my Master - in Christ, through faith
I have found the Word of God to be Solid Rock
I can trust and stand on IT
with no bouncy bouncy
it Reflects AND Projects light - to and through
you're in the Book Vas - like it or not
it's just a matter of bookmarking your spot
choose your choice - Life in Christ Who died for you
or refuse the Water of Life, stay thirsty
and tell yourself you like it
tell yourself the thirsty lie
keep yourself projected and rejected
If you want an answer you'll have to ask a question. If you want an answer to any question you've yet asked you'll have to review this topic because I'm not going to repeat myself unless I'm in the mood to, which is extraordinarily rare.
The rest of your post is your standard lies and projections.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
It as still quite easy...
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Oh But She was a Bad Kitty, as I recall . . .
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Hey, Did someone mention Ms. Mirage herself ???
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Vas,
ok, why don't you leave simpleness and live?
why do you kick against the goads?
why do you choose death rather than Life?
aren't you moved by God sending His Son to die for your sins?
do you believe He was Raised from the dead for your Salvation?
do you believe He is Alive now and living in His people?
why don't you go through the Door and find rest and peace?
why will you still be smitten that you continue to rebel?
why don't you have the courage to be honest with yourself about the way things are?
if you don't know anything for sure isn't it obvious you are on the wrong road?
are you afraid of considering the Plan of God you have railed so much against?
why don't you build on the Rock so things won't move when the storm comes?
do you realize you're running out of time figuring out the universe and your part in it?
what better focus have you found than God and His Word?
if you could admit you're wrong would you have the courage to repent?
are you alergic to the knowledge you think you have - the knowledge causing you to swell with pride?
are atheists you know going the direction you want to go?
what lie that you've heard are you totally sure of without any doubt?
how have you arrived at that certainty?
is this the first thing you're certain about - that I'm wrong in Christ and in God?
All questions you should answer. In fact, you should ask yourself all of the questions.
Fiction doesn't move me. Only writers, actors, and retards build their lives on fiction.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
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Vas,
I HAVE left simpleness and I DO live in Christ - "life abundantly" "life indeed". I DID kick against the goads - but I repented - it's night and day better now. I HAVE chosen LIFE in Christ over walking dead in sin... then the "second death". I HAVE ask myself all these questions. I AM moved by Jesus' dying for my sin...and strengthened - encouraged: by His Rising from the dead to an INDESTRUCTIBLE LIFE. He abides in me and I make it my aim to focus on and abide in Him.
I have been "born anew" into Him and given the gift of The Holy Spirit that enables me to understand the Word of God - something you can't do unless you go "through the door" and receive the "gift of The Holy Spirit" - then you can understand spiritual things. Instead of being "in Christ" it may be you are "in the devil" (he goes around seeking who he can devour, you may have been lunch). You'll have to "cry out to God" to save you. The Word of God says you can't save yourself. In the Word of God He also invites you to "Come to the Waters - all that are thirsty". You're invited to leave the bars of the world that don't satisfy...and belly up to the Real Bar.
As far as your assessment of "fact and fiction" - it's another chapter in your book: WHAT VAS DOESN'T KNOW BUT PROCLAIMS WITH ARROGANCE.
All lies.
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But I blah blah blah Christ blah blah blah blah LIFE blah Christ blah blah blah blah Jesus blah blah blah blah Holy Spirit blah blah blah blah Word of God blah Water blah blah blah blah Gospel blah Bread.
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Vas,
You have correctly been totally silent on saying anything ANYTHING you know for sure. You don't believe in God, Jesus and the Word of God.
So, logically, you don't KNOW what is a lie versus what is Truth. That goes with your position. You have no Reference, no Standard.
So, I guess the "hope" you have is that the Gospel - that Jesus is the Son of God, has died for the sin of all who believe in Him, Risen from the dead, living in those who have been "born anew", given the gift of The Holy Spirit to those "born anew" - born into Him...
...I guess that logically leaves you with the simple "hope" that is "all lies" - a pretty sorry hope Vas. You can have it.
You can choke yourself on a foot powered lathe if you work at it...as you seem to be
"Lies...projection..."
Blatant lie.
Because they don't exist. Much like your IQ. It just isn't there.
No actually YOU don't know what truth is, nor logic. It is amusing watching you make shit up and call it logic though.
Ridiculous.
Nonsensical.
It would be if it were true. But you're describing yourself here.
No I can't, it doesn't exist.
You are quite good at describing the misery and squallor you live in. Not so good at coming into the light of reason and leaving the misery and squallor behind.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Vas,
I have to admit you gave a much more elaborate pseudo NON-answer containing absolutely no reason behind your statements, no description of your wonderful world - the sense of it, reason for hope or why we are here - why we should work to excell to what end, help who, what help is, or why...what I've come to expect from atheists.
As I have been saying - atheism is a blind faith in nothingness supported by nothing with nothing. The ground you have captured and hold is not even the "rose garden" - and your "press conference" consists of grandiose statements from the prompter suspended on fresh air by those blowing the air and hoping for more "blowers" (only it's not fresh - and it's the LORD'S AIR BTW).
You excell only at the personal attack which you hope serves as a loud colorful distraction from your empty bunker. Why don't we get a tour of the bunker?
In contrast I have presented the Gospel of Salvation in Jesus Christ - the LAMB of GOD sacrificed for all the sins of mankind of all time for all those who are thirsty and weary of the non - satisfaction of the bars of the world (of which you are a bartender) serving ptomaine to anybody who will drink up your empty faith and doctrine of demons doomed to destruction then with the knowledge they have insolently rejected the FOUNTAIN OF LIVING WATER and the GIFT OF GOD, the Cup of His Mercy in Christ. He LIVES now in His people, those "born anew" into Him, rescued from being instead "in Satan" - "Satan's lunch" - by the same POWER of GOD which Raised Jesus from the dead.
If you aren't living in the misery and squallor you mention and try to foist on me - why don't you describe said bliss in living color and the reasons supporting it? Don't just say, "you're crazy" (that doesn't cure me or bring me in off the water) - but describe your many splendored "hall of sanity" and light those halls to the heights and depths with insightful answers. Don't just attack - give your victory parade and show us the spoils. Don't just say, "oh, you wouldn't understand of course" - surely somebody would! As I think "somebody does" understand it - and how you don't have it! It's not rocket science.
You have learned the atheist "tap dance" but haven't even hummed the music for all your frantic gestures. It's obvious you are as if in a old junk car in the woods making engine sounds radio playing (in your head) acting as if you're traveling somewhere and inviting us to get in and go with you on your dream vacation to nowhere. I pass. You will too - crazy drunk driving that, "Hot, Rod, LINCOLN"!
That's a lie, not an admission. I suggest you get a dictionary, because you don't have the slightest idea what words actually mean.
No that's religion. Atheism has nothing to do with faith.
Lies and projections.
Projection.
This is pretty much exactly what you're saying, and all you've ever said..
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I love how I can just post this without even looking at the last page.
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Vas,
You really overwork that "projection" thing - as if you're a movie maker (you having the leading role).
The way I understand your position from posts back when you weren't just "phoning it in" is: you think science is filling in all the gaps and there is no need for God - which is convenient for you since you don't believe there is a Living and All-Knowing God, a Designer, a Creator or a Savior.
But when I ask a form of, "What is truth"?, "Where did we come from"?, "Where are we destined to go"? you are faced with the gaps science can't bridge and you simply dismiss the question not with reason but with attitude. I think you want to argue from the back door emotional realm but not through the front door of reason - and definitely not on the table of application to ordinary life. In your virtual world everything is virtual, projection, virtual answers, virtual attitude, virtual decrees thrown from Vasland like firebrands - as if you discovered virtual fire yourself offered expecting all to accept as real.
Still, though, you make statements as if you know certain things to be true - yet you don't support them with any reason. I guess you expect your attitude to be accepted as truth because it is so real to you though you can't give the reasons WHY it is real to you or why it should be accepted. If you have bridged the gap and found truth - I'm sure others would be interested in how you made your discovery.
In contrast, if the Bible is True (Which It Is BTW) - everything falls into place. Jesus is the Way, Truth and the Life. The questions of "origin" "destination" and "love" are revealed for all who labor and are heavy laden under the weight of sin, for all who are thirsty, "whosoever will" can and is invited to come and drink the Waters of Eternal Life freely offered in the year of the LORD'S favor.
Go through the Door of Jesus Christ and make The LORD your Shepherd. He died for your sins (for all those who believe in Him) and God Raised Him to an Indestructable Life. He will abide with you and help you in real time if you cry out to Him for mercy - He won't let you down like all the false gods (yourself, science, men, evil spirits, money). If you refuse the Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world you are a judge to yourself as being unworthy of the Gift of God.
"Lies...projection..."
You keep talking to yourself...
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Also...god blah blah, Bible blah blah, Truth blah blah, Water blah blah, Life blah blah, etc....
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Di66en6ion -
What is it that you "know" that doesn't have to do with your faith in something or somebody - including yourself.
The thing is, you need to be fully convinced in your own mind what's true and right - otherwise you're living in doubt about everything you're doing.
I don't know what you or any other atheist is fully convinced about - the atheists haven't been very forthcoming on that subject.
I'm fully convinced the Bible is True - Jesus is the Truth, Life and The Way. I haven't had to abandon that - it has grown stronger and clearer.
Nothing you or any other atheist has said has made a dent in that Fact.
For all of your disdain of the Scriptures you haven't come out with anything YOU are sure of, have faith in, or can reasonably describe.
And, I might add - you atheists are touchy about the fact that you don't know anything for sure - you are a rudderless and anchorless bunch in the sea of life.
And you bring out empty statements and try to act as if you've produced a dissertation of the universe.
Your argument would have more punch if you actually had an argument.
Your truth would enlighten us all if you had any truth.
We have seen the snarky approach (there's a thing to excell at in life), the mockery (distraction?), the blasphemy of God and Scripture (of what is not known or understood).
I'm left to assume that's all there is - i.e., nothing there - and no atheist honest enough to admit it.
^ Broken record of fail.
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