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Faith in Jesus works for me - it's exciting. I love the Bible and believe all of it - though there is mystery. There is mystery everywhere though, right? I am a incredibly happy believer in Jesus. I'm not a theologian, I just believe in Jesus.
I understand you can't make anybody believe in Jesus and the Bible, and I don't personally try to do that. But I highly recommend it from my experience with it. I can't get enough of the Bible or Jesus. I can't imagine trying to navigate through life without it at this point in my life.
I don't think Jesus or God is a thing you can prove to somebody. I heard about it a large percentage of my life and it didn't mean anything to me until a certain point - then that all changed.
So do you guys think that I'm fooling myself, not really happy, you don't believe me, or do you really think I can't be as happy or enlightened as you - are you evangelistic in that sense or what? What is the purpose of this site? Do you have something better to offer? If so, what is your gospel?
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I'm an evil witch; I made a pact with the devil. If you try to annoy me, I will put a defixio on your family.
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Clarin,
Just to look at your picture I would have never thought you would hold out for a bowl of spaghetti.
Mad she might get more than you did when you sold your soul?
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
When all else fails, get personal.
Btw, if anyone wants to see a picture of "Fonzie", there's one still attached to his Meph id.
Anony,
You outdid yourself there - that's hard to do.
Really ? What did I do then ?
Ask you another question you're going to dodge for a few years ?
Wasn't one enough ?
You know, I think it's about time you realise that, at this point in your current thread, absolutely no-one has any idea what you think you're talking about anymore.
Fonzie,
Answering simple and straightforward questions is easy to do. You outdo yourself by consistently refusing to do so.
If you will not respond to the simplest of questions in a forthright manner, it is fruitless for you to continue discussion. Dishonesty and intellectual cowardice does not work for me.
There are no theists on operating tables.
Clarin,
How is it you come on here as a spaghetti eating theist with a fork around your neck? Is it: ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w29QxilQw8Y
Brave words from a guy who worships a torture/execution device more than the God that was supposedly placed on it. You and Ciarin have a lot more in common than you realize - Odin likes crucifixions also.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Since when did Odin like crucifixions?
I haven't eaten spaghetti in forever. I usually eat vermicelli and linguine, and fettuccine. And I don't have a fork around my neck. It's usually a hammer or eormensyl.
ciarin.com
I remember reading somewhere that crucifixion was an acceptable form of offering someone to Odin. I may be wrong.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
So the upcoming Thor movie....would that be blasphemy ?
I'm guessing that no-one in your...er, coven ?, has any problem with a black Heimdall, right ?
Fly,
This borders on prophetic.
Wow.
That's got to be the most pathetic bit of quote-mining we've ever had here.
Okay, you've done it. I feel sorry for you again.
(Could some kind mod please put this thread out of it's misery ?)
Indeed, asshat. And so may you.
Got the balls to admit it?
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Fonzie,
How is it you came on here as a transgendered peasant (formerly geriatric carpenter) with the spout of a vessel thrust into his/her mouth?
A diet rich in simple carbs coupled with unprescribed amounts of lithium goes a long way to explain why your neurons consistently fail to fire in a proper manner.
Oh, and Fonzie,
There are no theists on operating tables.
What about all of the claims in the Bible that we can compare to reality and are proven false? How do you deal with the dilemma?
"This may shock you, but not everything in the bible is true." The only true statement ever to be uttered by Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist.
"A Boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." Mikhail Bakunin
"The means in which you take,
dictate the ends in which you find yourself."
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme leadership derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
No Gods, No Masters!
Anonymouse,
Here's my question to the atheist community: Has all else failed? If so, why not accept the real solution (except for taking your own lies and excuses for reality)?
I don't know, fonzie/meph. You're the one who's throwing around the unprovoked insults. Have you stopped trying? Has Jesus stopped "working for you" now that you've run into people who see you for what you are?
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
As always, your questions are easily answered. (And my answer will be easily ignored, as always)
You see, Meph, what you are once again conveniently ignoring, is what came before those quotes you mined.
I'll repeat that, because you forgot it already : What you are once again conveniently ignoring, is what came before those quotes you mined.
In other words, when I call you a liar, I have facts to back up that accusation. (facts provided by you)
And when you accuse me, or tell other people here they're insects, or somehow related to the devil or whatever, you have none.
I'll repeat that : YOU HAVE NONE.
That's the difference.
And when you make personal remarks about people's pictures (something you've done before), you once again show that your dishonesty and pettiness is all you have.
Or would you like us to quote every unprovoked, bizarre and unsubstantiated remark you ever posted here ?
Hmmmmmmm ?
There you go. Any other questions ?
B1,
I don't know of anything like that in Scripture - give me some examples.
Well, we have this thread on this forum. It's called "it works for me". You should read it.
If you do, you'll find you've had many, many conversations about biblical inaccuracies (with JCGadfly and PJ, to name but a few).
Funnily enough....those conversations always ended with you ignoring their arguments, and you jumping on to the next guy....as if nothing ever happened.
I guess B166ER has not yet had the honor of jumping through your hoops.
Okay then, let's have chapter 2000whatever in this farce :
Pretend you care what he has to say for long enough to squeeze out another sermon or two.
Then, depending on your mood, you'll either thank him for the effort or throw some religiously inspired insult at him.
And then you can forget everything he told you, and ask the very same question again to the next guy who comes along.
The endless thread, fueled by the kindness of strangers.
Of course you don't. You haven't read the Bible.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Anony,
It's interesting. Here you describe how you atheists are trying to live without God. You ignore what has come before, and are living life without Context. (using the term "life" ever so loosely)
And in your pride you describe it as "convenient" - when it's anything but convenient. And just in case you might learn something - the knowledge of God - you "once again" work at staying ignorant. Seven devils guard your cell while you feed on lies.
What is interesting, is how you reply to my complaining about your quote-mining, by quote-mining yet again.
You're either completely shameless, completely clueless or both.
No, there I describe my puzzlement at your ability to recall being called "completely insane", and your utter failure to remember why I called you that in the first place.
You have an extraordinarily selective memory.
Half the posts in this thread seem to make you temporarily blind.
Sweetheart, I've been practically begging you to answer a question I asked you about a year ago.
I've been re-re-re-re-posting things you said that you apparently don't care to remember saying.
ALL of that is "what has come before".
And who exactly has been happily ignoring that for, literally, years ?
Hmmmmm ?
What you decide in the comfy privacy of your imagination has no effect on reality.
I'm sorry if that annoys you.
(Oh, btw, you're now also directly disagreeing with yourself again. It would seem that you don't really care about "what came before"
Describe what as "convenient" ?
You really need to remember that we're not privy to what goes on in your imagination, so please explain what you're talking about.
Thanks.
Going completely by your posts alone, what I am learning is that religion can't work without deceit and dishonesty.
You're making that point rather agressively.
I never asked you about the "knowledge of god". I asked you why you lied when I asked you about your first thread.
You practiced to decieve, which doesn't exactly make you an expert on "knowledge of god", now does it ?
I'd rather have some spaghetti, thanks. You and your fantasy creatures can keep your lies.
All I want to know is why you're so desperate to deny something you already indirectly admitted.
So I'll give you yet another chance : Did you make the "WHAT FAITH YOU" thread ?
For once, try to answer honestly.
I promise, it won't hurt
Fonzie/meph,
How do you continue to function as a human while being this intentionally stupid? Lithium can't work that many wonders for you.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
This whole thread is about everyone trying to tell the poop it stinks. I hate to have to point this out but poop doesn't have an ear.
Talking to this guy is like:
Statement: "a rock is solid" Answer: "You are besieged by demons and one day the lord will take you and you will know of his clingy softness."
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
rob,
I agree with that about this forum. But there is a pile of it near work and grass is growing in it. Life could spring up. There's hope outside the pile for the pile, but the pile is determined to keep its current station and fragrance I'll give you that. The constant stirring and repeating to each other "don't forget, you are nothing but road apples, nothing more" keeps it wafting here on the web. It definitely has its place and supporting role in the garden. But wisdom is justified by all its children.
But there is a pile of lithium and cancer is growing in it. Truth and honesty could spring up. The lithium-pile is determined to keep avoiding straightforward questions, I'll give you that. Credibility is justified by answering straightforward questions:
There are no theists on operating tables.
Interesting bit of irony, fonzie/meph.
You believe that God loves us and wants us to be better than we are. Yet you, as an exemplar of God to us, treat us like crap by lying to us and being condescending toward us.
It makes me think of Jean as a far more honest Christian. He knows God is a dick and has no issue about being one to other people.
We shall know them by their fruits...
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Rob, you should know better. Don't say "poop" to Fonzie/Meph. That's like throwing a drowning man a lifejacket.
Yup, here it comes :
Ah, you are deliberatly misunderstanding for comic effect, I guess.
No worries, I'll explain :
Rob was expressing the opinion, based on his past dealings with you, that any attempt at conversation with you was doomed to failure.
You just proved him right.
(btw, you know nothing about "this forum" since you never venture outside your own threads)
Yes, your imagination is a wonderful place. The word "poop" seems to have set it in motion yet again.
Other words, such as "could you please answer the question", seem to inspire you a lot less.
I'll repeat the question that seems to frighten you more than your imaginary hell itself :
Was it you who made the "WHAT FAITH YOU" thread ?
(allthough I guess that would be the "what faith you" thread now, since someone decided to tone down the capitals)
His whole world and argument rotate around one object, his grand idea that he is "special". The idea that we are not god's special pet really infuriates him like a spoiled child.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
That's non sequitur.
That's non sequitur.
I keep asking myself " Are they just playin' stupid, or are they just plain stupid?..."
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy" : David Brooks
" Only on the subject of God can smart people still imagine that they reap the fruits of human intelligence even as they plow them under." : Sam Harris
red,
It's non sequitur to you because you don't believe in God. You don't accept the context of God existing for all time, creating the world we live in through Christ, for Christ, held together by Christ. If indeed this is true you are living life without the context of God and Christ. For you nothing is there - in your thinking past or present - concerning God. You are on the stage of life without that context - and in my view the main context of life, and Life itself. It is true.
So you are on the stage mouthing words that relate to nothing because you don't know what the play is about. Worse yet you think you do. You are being irrelevant about what IS (Christ is LORD). You are ignorant about the thing you need to know most in this life - the Knowledge of God. Yet you think you are wise. How do you determine that - not with the context of the Word of God, that's not your context. You have other means, other context. I'm saying whatever that context is - other than God - is worthless.
Fonzie, it is non sequitur to avoid answering straightforward questions. You don't accept the concept of being honest, held together by honesty.
So you are on the pharmacy counter mouthing words that relate to nothing because you won't answer straightforward questions. You are being irrelevant. You are ignorant about the thing you need to answer:
If you cannot answer "yes" or "no", anything else you say -- is worthless.
There are no theists on operating tables.
rob,
That's not true. I don't deserve God's grace any more than you, likely less. Paul would argue with us both, claiming himself to be the "chief of sinners" in all sincerity. The idea that you might consider accepting God's Gift really infuriates your jail warden however. Try applying your independent spirit to him and see what happens..... You won't get away with it without the Key Keeper.
It's not ? You spent years here, telling our ex-jesus people how they didn't persevere enough, while you did.
Changed your mind again, have you ?
You do that a lot.
Indeed.
Your god frowns on lying, so that's your ticket to hell all bought and paid for.
...unless you don't actually believe what you're preaching.
Yeah.....arguing about who's the biggest douchebag. Very productive.
Btw, is that in one of the bits paul actually wrote, or one the bits somebody else wrote for him ?
Yup, he's pissed :
"Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!! Don't accept god's gift, Rob !"
Him ? Who ?
No, no, no. It's the "Gate Keeper" and the "Key Master".
Don't you know anything ?
Okay, enough fun and games and world of warcraft, or whatever.
Could some halfway sane moderater please just give this guy his badge back ? Just to give people fair warning that he's not interested in a discussion ?
If not, then what exactly is the use of giving people troll badges in the first place ?
Seriously, why even bother with moderating at all ?
I'm glad you can travel back in time to have long discussions with "Paul" but that mofo owes me money. Key keeper, wtf is this ghostbusters?
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Because "it works for me"
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Fonzie,
Did you create the "what faith you" thread? That would be the thread titled "what faith you"; created by the user named "mephibosheth" on September 6, 2007 - 5:57pm, and which can be found here.
There are no theists on operating tables.
rob,
Yes, it's "faith travel". Faith in God and Christ brings us front row to all the events in Scripture - I KNOW and believe they all happened as much if not more than if I had been there in person. The eyes of faith allow "seeing" God "moving over the waters", turning the lights on, Israelites walking through the Red Sea on dry land, Elijah calling down fire - slaying the 400 false prophets, Jesus walking on water. The eyes of faith enable seeing beyond the horizon of death - dimly but excitedly.
The greatest though is seeing the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God as foretold by Moses and the prophets, the mystery hidden for ages - the guarantee of all guarantees, the breaking of the trap of death, the enabling of receiving the new birth and the gift of the Holy Spirit which brings us into the Presence of Christ and God. Now that's travel! - walking in faith with God and Christ! All aboard! (I wonder if Noah said that? We're not told if the Ark had a horn...)
I kow people who see stuff like that too. It usually involves a tab of LSD on the tongue.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Scripture, oh you mean that book a bunch of lazy ass socialists wrote? Biggest joke in history. If there were a god he would probably be scratching his head wondering why the fuck anyone could believe a word in that pos.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
J,
There are several efforts to escape from spiritual poverty true - wine, ignorance, unbelief, pleasure, do it yourself heaven, etc - all with their accompanying failures and vanities. There is an end to the matter when all has been heard though - fear God and keep His Commandments. This is the whole duty of man.
Wow, you just describe yourself perfectly. Jesus is pure escapism from the spiritual and moral bankruptcy you display as a badge of honor..
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
You are like a compilation of all the little tracts of my youth. Not sure where you get this stuff but it's word perfect. I don't know if you're a leader in your church but you should be. Congratulations, Fonzie. This is beautiful, inspiring stuff. Do you own a guitar?
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
How's that working for you, Fonzie?
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
You have reached a level of dishonesty that makes you completely incomprehensible.
Kudos to everyone who's still trying, but seriously, enough is enough.